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No offence, but I think you need to go for a drive in a decent car, preferably without power steering

I actually race cars all the time and im talking from experiance, and none have power steering, when I understeer, steering goes light, and sometimes hops. LFS does not model this at all, simple as that.

Now im confused :S

Of course that doesnt happen in LFS, but it should cause it happens in a REAL car.

I thought you just said the wheel doesnt go light? make up your mind

Quote from tristancliffe :

It doesn't. Either in real life or in LFS.

LOL is that right? I cant believe some people, wow. Im just gonna assume none of you have driven a real car hard in your life.

The feeling when the wheel go's light from massive understeer.

Quote from AndroidXP :

You just showed that LFS does it right. No flamesuit needed

But it is not simulating 1 important 'feeling'

Quote from atledreier :

Calling me a liar is not gonna get you very far, Steve. Settle down.

where did I call YOU a lier? oh wait nowhere, roofles

All I would like it to feel front wheels understeer, thats not to much to ask. Other sims have it, why not LFS? LFS is supposed to a the all mighty SIM and be very accurate, well when you understeer hard in a real car the steering goes light and sometimes shaky, but why not in LFS? People say they can feel the steering go light in the game, they lie, I played LFS on about 10 different PC's and with 5 different force feedback wheels.

You guys are only feeling the FWD cars steering going light turning while accelerating I bet, and that is not what we were talking about

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Last edited by steve, Mon 22 Aug 2005, 05:09.

Just playing around, took 30 mins to render this 1 lol.

Quote from Gunn :

Did you set the centering spring to 0%?

Yes.

The issue is not about 'full lock' or not. It doesnt need to be at full lock for the cars to understeer, I was trying to give a simple example.

When a car understeers in real life, the feel through the steering wheel gets light, its as simple as that.

Try this, go down a straight stretch in a RWD car, turn the wheel full lock left or right so the car is understeering, you tell me if it the steering go's light in the force feedback.

Quote from Gunn :

Try the tip above by tailing.

Install the latest driver and software.

I have the latest drivers/software, and ive used 4 different FF wheels, its quite simple, LFS does not have the effect coded into the force feedback.

lol

Last edited by steve, Sun 21 Aug 2005, 02:23.

Heres a few of mine

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There was a discussion about this before, and basically most people agreed it DOESN'T actually go light in a real car

have these people actually driven a REAL car and know what understeer actually is? Im gonna assume no and no. When the fronts wheels regain grip from major understeer, its really violent feeling, especially when your moving fast.

Thats because most road cars have power steering, even a car with power steering you can still feel it go light, just nowhere near as much as a car with no power steering. Of course you can feel when the front tires go light when your on the gas in a FWD car, but that has noting do do with not feeling the understeer in the game

Last edited by steve, Sun 21 Aug 2005, 02:09.

Quote from Gunn :

Del it sounds like your FFB is not working properly, I use a Momo and I can feel everything in the game.

I also have a momo, but yet we can't feel when a car understeers, the steering should go light, right now it doesnt.

Its the act labs shifter, its works great in combination with the momo, and yes Im using a clutch pedal as well Your best bet in finding 1 is to look around on publics forums, or maybe even try ebay, but they go for a hefty price there I bought mine last year for like 25$ I see them selling for over 200$ on ebay :O

Quote from Mitzle :

hi steve,

cool video...

what kind of shifter are you using there? have you built it yourself or is it the one from actlabs?
how does it work with the momo wheel? I would love to have an H-shifter, but i was wondering how it works and if it is even possible to get one without much experience with technical stuff like that... (two left hands here... )
do you use a clutch pedal?

...Thanks...

Mitzle

LFS would be the perfect sim if it had the sounds of something like gt legends/GTR, the force feedback of netkar, and realistic directX 9 graphics, maybe a little better netcode to if 1 person didnt lag whole servers that are would almost be perfect