Quote from pik_d :

To be fair, your findings that the A64 X2 is faster per clock goes in the face of everything ever found out besides your test.

Going back to that review that DEVIL 007 posted, here, the Core 2 Duo's outperform comparably clocked A64 chips.

Here's the rundown that X-bit labs found (all are dual core) for their 3ds Max 8 (Space Flyby) test:

A64 6000+ 3.0GHz 230 sec
C2D E6600 2.4GHz 235 sec
A64 5600+ 2.8GHz 247 sec
C2D E6420 2.13GHz 263 sec
A64 5200+ 2.6GHz 265 sec

And so on and so forth, the Core 2 Duo's do outperform even higher clocked A64 X2 processors.

EDIT: Can you tell us more about the specs of your two systems? Given that you're using two entirely different systems, they're probably unequal in more than just what CPU's they have.

ok i'll post a more detailed message soon.

Can't i make it clear enough Jakq??
The test is very simple to understand. Mental ray *rendering a scene in both cpu's. And the result 2.4GHZ C2D = 2.34GHZ AMDx2.I did this test.

*rendering a scene is highly cpu-intensive job.So there's no doubt that it is using full cpu power.

I prepared a scene in 3dmax with gi and things on. Rendered it home on 2ghz AMD2x and note down the time it took to render.Saved the file and rendered it at work on 2,4ghz c2d.The difference was exactly %17. Intel cpu's are not as fast as they declare.

According to this test, Intel 2.4ghz C2D works like a 2.34ghz AMDx2

Last edited by ZORER, Sun 22 Apr 2007, 11:55.

I'd vote for the AMD. I use dual AMD at home and core2duo at work. Amd is 2.0 ghz and core2duo is 2.4 ghz.So there should be a performance difference of min.%20 percent.And maybe even more because the Core2Duo is a newer computer which means better ram speed and better harddisks and better mainboard and vista... But the real speed difference is %17(for cpu-intensive rendering process).This makes me think of AMD is still the better price-performance cpu in the market. I'd go for an AMD instead of Core2Duo.

Thanks for your answers!
But i'm dissapointed about the ram and linux multi-core issues. i'm not sure about buying it. I don't play much games other than LFS so i was thinking of using it as a mini render server..But seems not possible for now.

Hi guys!
I'm thinking of getting a ps3 these days but it is bloody expensive in my country.(nearly double the U.S. price) Will it be running full functionally if i buy it in U.S. and bring here? (i mean the electric cables and area code or things like that) And will i be able to connect to ps3 network..?And can i use my momo on ps3? And is it possible to upgrade it's ram with external memory cards?And is it really a super-fast computer under linux?

We love you too. But i think we love eric,scawen and victor a bit more than you. But we still love you.resent:[etals:]:lfs::bunny3:

Same on here too, could not connect to msn for hours and hotmail is very slow now...i agree arco.

Quote from [d9] :

hi, a very simply (i hope to implement suggestion - "effect" can be seen in many racing games. easy way to uplift realistic feeling of realtime rendered cars. based on pre-rendered alpha textures from GI skylight, separate for car body and wheels (responsive to their turn angles), combined with currently used calculated drop shadow. of course ... fall off with distance to ground.
preview explainins GI shadow maps on XRT car.

The idea is good but the problem is it won't work with lfs because ground is not flat.It has height too.So the shadow plane would not exactly fit on gruond plane... unless a projection is made.

i see.

but what does "-boo hoo" mean??

Hello,


This is a very annoying thing happened tonite which made me start to think about the lfs community..

I decided to do some racing on lfs today and started checking for servers.After refreshing the list i realised that there are no racers online doing proper racing.. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE...(ı got the screenshots of all the list so don't start "-oh yes we did good races you didn't see them...")
The city driving or cops&robbers servers are full, which is another thing i can't understand...This should be a racing simulator, not a f**king hangin'-around simulator.

The only server was a mexican server i managed to do a 5 lap race and there were 10 ppl on the server but they didn't restart the race. They just go to pits and come back, try to do idiot crashes, change skins...But no restart.. there were only 2 of us dying for a restart but nothing happened.
I disconnected from that and checked the list again..Oh yes there was another server with 3 ppl racing but they banned me when i just got connected...

Now i am connected to the redline racing server and will be racing on fox-as combo again.(till i get sick)

looks like we have to sign up for leagues to make proper races..

Quote from Motordirex :

Will the gazelle already been injured and or will the Cheetah be with friends...so many factors you need to think about with a wild life simulator. Click here to see what I mean.

no, and no. gazelle is not injured and cheetah won't be friends. In fact i'd expect more clever questions like,"-which track?" or " how many laps?" or "-what about pitstops?"...

Quote from Shotglass :

and i always though you had sly as your ava

at least, i have a clue what i might look like when i get old.

What about a "cheetah" added to LFS?)
Simulating a cheetah and chasing a gazelle .

Here's me.

<<----- Look at the avatar, you noob.

noobs. they have a good team

pes6 or fifa2007?

Quote from sgt.flippy :

That's really a sentence? I always thought the turks at our school were acting childish and dumb again when they say that. It always sounds so stupid when they say that.
Now it'll make me laugh, so that makes me happy.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Turks really, only the ones at my school in general

Yep it's a sentence..i think.You use that when you get surprised about something that you can't get what it is.

Quote from Electrik Kar :

Rabbits tend to die in very strange ways. Our family also had one many years ago- apart from pooing everywhere he was a real treat. But one day as we were watching him run about the lounge, he suddenly stood up on his little hind legs, pulled an incredible backflip, and died...

edit: probably a good idea to move this to the 'what makes us sad' thread. :cry:

We managed to teach them where to poo and pee.You put them in their box and don't let them go until their poo and pee.And in very short time they learn to go into the box to poo and pee.

Quote from hrtburnout :

Hey! This thread is supposed to make us happy, so don't talk about dieing rabbits please

And my friend's little bird was sitting on top of the phone, suddenly the phone rang and it died.

Quote from Blaeza :

How much can you benchpress? I'm able to do 120kg after a year of getting fat!

120kg in one year? that's quite a big weight. stereos?

I had 2 rabbits when i was a kid i really loved them but one night they suddenly screamed very loud and one of them died. The other one was shocked but survived.We never understand what happened to them.

Quote from Electrik Kar :

This.

O da ne????

What is that?

There are many things i like to do but nothing makes me happy...

no it doesn't. chocolate and strawberry just don't fit each other....gonna be sick.

Quote from Blackout :

Look how beautiful car.

wow, can't keep my eyes. P. Farina is a legend

Quote from CSU1 :

humm...."organisms don't run on a process cycle."....the way I see is the EVERYTHING runs on a 'process' cycle from the very carbon fibers that build our bodys to the coming seasons of the earth.
The human brain process information in frequencyes 'per say' does it not? correct me im no medical student....

That should be "life cycle".And that's something different.I don't know much about "how a brain works" but that question is not well answered by science yet too.

I agree the faster computer will give you more info in the same amount of time than a slow computer which will probably make you react quicker to the game.
I have seen that happening to the game "monaco grand prix".. when I upgraded my pc i had a second quicker than my laptimes on the old processor.

And i don't think there is a possiblity to count how many fps can human eye read because it is completely organic and organisms don't run on a process cycle.Light reacting cells should be able to react in a time that is equal to electric signals travelling to the brain from each seperate retina cell.

Quote from hrtburnout :

edit : BMW 2002?

hmm i don't think so..

Is it italian?