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Name the FOTA breakaway series
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World Grand Prix Championship (WGPC)
32
Grand Prix Motor Racing (F1's pre-1947 name)
26
Other
11
Formula Open-wheel Teams Association (FOTA)
8
International Motor Racing Championship (IMRC)
7
AutoGP
6
Formula Max
6
Formula Won
4
Formula Uno (Ricky Bobby reference)
3
Global Automobile Racing Champinship (GARC)
2
Formula Un
0
Quote from DevilDare :GP1 as trsitan named (?) in another thread.

GP1 has been copyrighted by Bernie (he did that when GP2 came about).
FOTA sounds good.
STCC

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or FFF1

Forced Fake Formula 1


or


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Fine Forced Fake Formula Uno Unlike Ur Unfine Unformula1-friendly Urganisation
Quote from samjh :But is "international" a word with a similar meaning to "world"? One could argue that it is.

Champ Car World Series LLC.

When I said "...and some other US only series excluded", I meant ChampCar too, since it was mostly US based. Some European example would be nice.

Quote :Frankly, the regulation about "world" is rubbish.

Right now everyone is saying this is rubbish because FOTA is so awesome and everything... But think if we now had IndyCar Series World Championship, A1P World Championship, Superleague World Championship, Golden Steering Wheel World Championship... whole "World Championship" word would have been diluted long time ago. Pro boxing is pretty good example of this, altough there the four major associations are somewhat equal (?).

Quote :Although the FIA may act vindictively and prevent FOTA from setting up a series using that word, it won't be enforceable if the FIA were to take legal measures against it in court. You can't copyright or trademark a common word.

But it's not a copyright at all.
GPR - Grand Prix Racing
Formula the bong of truth?

also, why not formula van
Formula Uno !!!!!

RICKY BOBBY RULES !




'' Remember, second is the first looser ''
Formula Federation Series = FFS
Super Team Formula Union = STFU
I wouldnt call it "other" tho
Quote from Danke :Forumla Federation Series = FFS
Super Team Formula Union = STFU

Greatest Teams of Formula One = GTFO
Racing Organization Formula League
Quote from deggis :Actually it's not silly unless you want situation like in pro boxing, where all four major associations declare their own world champions.

International Sporting Code, page 5:

d) Other Cups, Trophies, Challenges or Series may not include
in their title the word “World” (which, in this section should be read
to include any word with a similar meaning to or derived from
“World” in any language) without the authorisation of the FIA. As a
general rule, the FIA shall grant this authorisation provided that
the following requirements are met and that the FIA believes that
it is in the interests of the sport to do so.


If the series is organized according to ISC. For example ACO affiliated series are even though FIA has no other direct control on them. A1GP too (and it's "World Cup of Motorsport"). Nascar series and some other US only series excluded, any major or in this comparable international series not under ISC?

Nissan / Renault World Series... Champ Car World Series?

Why don't buy the name rights of Champ Car Cause it would be again the situation that one of them will die in future... Though I must say, that I'm surprised so many level 2 monoposti serieses are living at the moment:
Renault World Series, Grand Prix 2 Series, Formula 2, Grand Prix Masters...

To be serious... Grand Prix 1 would be a serious alternatvity.

The Event package could be:

Grand Prix 1
Grand Prix 2
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup

and the FIA Event package should be "Super Racing Weekend":
Formula 1
Formula 2
A Local Formula 3 Race
WTCC
FIA GT
Quote from TFalke55 :Nissan / Renault World Series... Champ Car World Series?

What did you mean, just listed series with "World" word in the name? I don't know about CCWS but Renault World Series is probably organized according to the International Sporting Code (pure guess actually, but it's just very likely) and they have probably been authorized to use the "World" word in the name.
GP1
#42 - JCTK
Formula Max sounds nice. I mean as Max for maximum technology / maximum speed those kinda things, as well as a good reference for mad max of cos~ XD
Quote from deggis :But it's not a copyright at all.

It doesn't matter. Fact is, the FIA is only the world governing body by de facto. Its power exists only because motoring associations allow it to rule over them. As far as I'm aware, there are no statutory obligations for any motor-racing event to be organised by the FIA or under FIA's authorisation, other than the FIA's own statutes.

Of course, the practical reality is that the FIA may revoke licenses of drivers, etc. But there is really nothing to stop another organisation from naming themselves the world governing body, except resistance by existing national associations.

Therefore, FIA's regulation forbidding the use of the word, "world", in a series name is toothless if the series is governed by a body other than the FIA with claims of international governorship of motorsport. I dare say that if FOTA were to set up such a series, and create a governing body of its own, with international jurisdiction, the FIA will be hard pressed to fight it. National associations will want a stake in the new organisation, and the only sensible solution is for the FIA to set up a compromise arrangement with the new body. The FIA has no legal basis upon which to attack a series which includes the word, "world" in its name, nor does it have any ability to inhibit another organisation from running international motorsporting events.
Quote from samjh :It doesn't matter. Fact is, the FIA is only the world governing body by de facto. Its power exists only because motoring associations allow it to rule over them. As far as I'm aware, there are no statutory obligations for any motor-racing event to be organised by the FIA or under FIA's authorisation, other than the FIA's own statutes.

Of course, the practical reality is that the FIA may revoke licenses of drivers, etc. But there is really nothing to stop another organisation from naming themselves the world governing body, except resistance by existing national associations.

Like you hinted, that's the way it works in practice.

If this FOTA lead series sees the daylight, it might be a start for a business reformation in motorsport.

Quote :Therefore, FIA's regulation forbidding the use of the word, "world", in a series name is toothless if the series is governed by a body other than the FIA with claims of international governorship of motorsport. I dare say that if FOTA were to set up such a series, and create a governing body of its own, with international jurisdiction, the FIA will be hard pressed to fight it. National associations will want a stake in the new organisation, and the only sensible solution is for the FIA to set up a compromise arrangement with the new body. The FIA has no legal basis upon which to attack a series which includes the word, "world" in its name, nor does it have any ability to inhibit another organisation from running international motorsporting events.

Lots of "ifs" in that
One will never know for sure until it's tried. FOTA has a chance to challenge the FIA like no-one else had for many years.
Quote from deggis :What did you mean, just listed series with "World" word in the name? I don't know about CCWS but Renault World Series is probably organized according to the International Sporting Code (pure guess actually, but it's just very likely) and they have probably been authorized to use the "World" word in the name.

CCWS was also organized according to the ISC. But I think this time, as it is called "World Series" does not mean that it is a world championship, just a series wich visits other tracks around the world, while world trophy, world cup or world championship implies, that the winner gets the title "world champion"
World Boring Car Championshit...wait a minute? NO
Championship that will never happen
Quote from TFalke55 :CCWS was also organized according to the ISC. But I think this time, as it is called "World Series" does not mean that it is a world championship, just a series wich visits other tracks around the world, while world trophy, world cup or world championship implies, that the winner gets the title "world champion"

Of course. But ISC specifically talks about use of "World" word, so that includes World Series too. And of course for that it is probably a lot easier to get authorization than for World Championship...
I guess the correct name was Dead On Arrival (DOA)

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Name the FOTA breakaway series
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