How do those dollareuro prices work. Do all this use this 1$ for 10 Euro course which is of course entirely wrong? It has gone down in price considerably but honestly I wonder if I still wouldn´t find it worth the money when it was 150-200 euro more 
I played with mine for a some weeks now. Got it with the ferrari wheel. Just got home a 320 mm standard wheel but awaiting an adapter for it.
It´s no small step up from a G27 in term of feel and use of materials. I would say it´s more bang for buck really however if you are just after fast lap times the DFP GT and G27 is very easy going wheels. You can max out the force feedback and it´s still never enough to overpower you. But it certainly feel like a toy wheel in comparison. I thought the pedals was quite decent but they feel as plasticky like the wheel in comparison.
Not perfect though. It´s quite noisy even though it´s belt driven also before the fan kicks in. I find it a bit annoying that you have to leave the wheel powered for 30 minutes after a session before the wheel cooled itself enough to stop the fan. Maybe if the fan would start at the same time as you start playing with the wheel this process would go faster?? With the torque of this wheel I can see it´s not really possible to do without a fan to bad they couldn´t fit a larger more quiet one though.
However when using headphones it certainly appear quiet to me. Particularly compared to the G27 which is sometimes quiet but frequently get those crazy clank clank clank noise that sounds like something just got loose in the wheel entirely.
Also it could perhaps be a bit smoother being a belt drive. I have read it uses a toothed belt it´s about what it feels like occasionally. But again it´s just something that don´t make it absolutely perfect it´s still a lot better then G27 in term of precision and feel. But I do recall the Turbo S for example being slightly smoother though it don´t at all had the ffb capabilities of the T500RS.
I played with mine for a some weeks now. Got it with the ferrari wheel. Just got home a 320 mm standard wheel but awaiting an adapter for it.
It´s no small step up from a G27 in term of feel and use of materials. I would say it´s more bang for buck really however if you are just after fast lap times the DFP GT and G27 is very easy going wheels. You can max out the force feedback and it´s still never enough to overpower you. But it certainly feel like a toy wheel in comparison. I thought the pedals was quite decent but they feel as plasticky like the wheel in comparison.
Not perfect though. It´s quite noisy even though it´s belt driven also before the fan kicks in. I find it a bit annoying that you have to leave the wheel powered for 30 minutes after a session before the wheel cooled itself enough to stop the fan. Maybe if the fan would start at the same time as you start playing with the wheel this process would go faster?? With the torque of this wheel I can see it´s not really possible to do without a fan to bad they couldn´t fit a larger more quiet one though.
However when using headphones it certainly appear quiet to me. Particularly compared to the G27 which is sometimes quiet but frequently get those crazy clank clank clank noise that sounds like something just got loose in the wheel entirely.
Also it could perhaps be a bit smoother being a belt drive. I have read it uses a toothed belt it´s about what it feels like occasionally. But again it´s just something that don´t make it absolutely perfect it´s still a lot better then G27 in term of precision and feel. But I do recall the Turbo S for example being slightly smoother though it don´t at all had the ffb capabilities of the T500RS.
It has a loose steering column too unless they fixed that issue. Unnecessary bulky too but if you can´t afford the Turbo S I would definiatly pick that one!
It´s okayish at it´s price point. Pedals are better then the DFP GTs for example. Very easilly to squashball mod the brake for example or add springs under the throttle for some extra resistance.
And apart from Turbo S the only force feedback wheel available. I just tried the MS FFB wheel today at mediamarkt and there really is no comparison to the Turbo S force feedback. But again It´s a nice wheel to hold and definite improvement over gamepad or the Drive FX for example.
It´s okayish at it´s price point. Pedals are better then the DFP GTs for example. Very easilly to squashball mod the brake for example or add springs under the throttle for some extra resistance.
And apart from Turbo S the only force feedback wheel available. I just tried the MS FFB wheel today at mediamarkt and there really is no comparison to the Turbo S force feedback. But again It´s a nice wheel to hold and definite improvement over gamepad or the Drive FX for example.
If you are going for a stiff break you do want to permanently mount it in some way. I currently use some dvd cases against my cockpits floor stand to make sure they won´t move when hard on braking.
I agree they are great. I am using the short stiff version. I didn´t care for the stock version much honestly... To mushy and didn´t really play to the advantages of having a load cell.
What Gnomie doesn´t mention is the genious potentiometre on them. I generally want them quite hard but if you are running arcade titles where you just want to go to full brake as soon as possible. Just adjust the pot and you are good to go. You can adjust it in game you don´t have to go into a control panel or anything to adjust it. I really like that because I am so lazy
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As for the ABS it´s working in rFactor but the vibration motor was so subtle and it doesn´t feel like ABS... There you feel the pumping here it just vibrations. The Turbo S have it as an option in the LCD menu but there it seems to vibrate when you are at 100 % braking and not really simulating ABS or anything.
The vibration motor is a bit of a gimmick for me I would I wouldn´t buy it for that reason. But there is TONS of other reasons to buy them
I agree they are great. I am using the short stiff version. I didn´t care for the stock version much honestly... To mushy and didn´t really play to the advantages of having a load cell.
What Gnomie doesn´t mention is the genious potentiometre on them. I generally want them quite hard but if you are running arcade titles where you just want to go to full brake as soon as possible. Just adjust the pot and you are good to go. You can adjust it in game you don´t have to go into a control panel or anything to adjust it. I really like that because I am so lazy
. As for the ABS it´s working in rFactor but the vibration motor was so subtle and it doesn´t feel like ABS... There you feel the pumping here it just vibrations. The Turbo S have it as an option in the LCD menu but there it seems to vibrate when you are at 100 % braking and not really simulating ABS or anything.
The vibration motor is a bit of a gimmick for me I would I wouldn´t buy it for that reason. But there is TONS of other reasons to buy them
The Fanatec wheels haven´t been out so long so it´s hard to say which will last longer. The wheel is well built for sure and the shifters have tolerated a lot of abuse already
. But it has stronger force feedback as well which means more strain and it runs hotter so that is no guarantee.Has been some QA issues so some seem to have gotten bad wheels too.
It´s very hard to say but my GT 3 RS is still going strong anyway.
I have no play at all btw for who asked. Force feedback and such is the same as for the 911 turbo. The grip is different. Particularly the 911 turbo Grip was amazing for formula cars. Very thick which gives me a very strong grip. But I have quite large hands so I often find wheels beeing to thin.
About performance the wheel outperform the G25 in every regard except for the paddle shifters I would say. It´s a tier above really.
As for repairability well the assembly is made such it´s pretty hard to reattach the wheel if you disassemble it. Even the standard pedals you need to be two for. However the clubsport pedals are a lot more tweaker friendly. Though I don´t know what would break on those except for the load cell or electronics perhaps. Should be quite easy to replace if anything happens on those.
As for returning Fanatec only sells their wheel from their website so you would ship your wheel to Germany for repair or replacement. Depending on how good your reseller is in your country it may go faster to rma your G25 or not.
I have had my share fair of trouble with that too but the plus side is they generally have wheels in stock. With Fanatec you may want to rma something which at the moment is out of stock and then who knows how long time it can take. In general you need more patience since you preorder pay in advance and so far there is very often significant delays.
But for me the wheel is so good it´s worth it
LFS feedback is a bit different. I only ran LFS on the old wheel but it felt quite good while you get used to it. I can imagine drift mode could be welcome in LFS though it was quite stiff. As far from mushy as you could get in term of resistance .
0 % dampening I pretty much always run.
.0 % dampening I pretty much always run.
yes I understood that but I didn´t understand the reference
I would be very surprised if it was shipped sooner... Murphys law is constant
Turbo S won´t arrive until september it looks like. Internals is if not identical so pretty close so you can eagle out for 911 turbo or GT 3 RS reviews and you should have a pretty nice idea about the force feedback and feel of it. The grip looks identical to the old 911 turbo actually.
the grip is as you see different. As I mentioned in the review not hundred percent which I preferr since I can´t do a side by side until I get my Turbo S . If you have smaller hands I am sure you would preferr the RS grip with it´s thumb grips. Otherwise you may appreciate the full grip of the Turbo S more. Wonder how the shifter paddles will work with that grip hope they have the same solution in the way that it´s optional.
As for force feedback from what I read seems to be pretty much the same design. Will be interesting to see if they will somehow integrate the vibration motors in Forza 3, and if they manage to do so that actually improves the feel
. If you have smaller hands I am sure you would preferr the RS grip with it´s thumb grips. Otherwise you may appreciate the full grip of the Turbo S more. Wonder how the shifter paddles will work with that grip hope they have the same solution in the way that it´s optional. As for force feedback from what I read seems to be pretty much the same design. Will be interesting to see if they will somehow integrate the vibration motors in Forza 3, and if they manage to do so that actually improves the feel
My attempt at a GT 3 RS clubsport review.
run mafia on PC if you want to run a good open world game with a wheel
I had it and well it´s cheap but better then the 30$ wheels at least. the steering column is a bit loose and get looser the more you use it. But it should do okay with one run through of Forza 3 then you maybe need to get a new one.
But there is no comparison really but with the lack of competition that or the cheaper drive FX is the options I would say
But there is no comparison really but with the lack of competition that or the cheaper drive FX is the options I would say
you can use the MS FFB wheel pedals, G25 pedals or the older fanatec pedals if you want to save some money. But you also need to get shifters if you want those.
G25 will never get Xbox 360 support it´s trickier then just an adapter apparently. Also I do suspect the 911 Turbo S is not the last 360 wheel for fanatec so they may very well release some more budget oriented. But as mentioned you will probably have to wait for it...
G25 will never get Xbox 360 support it´s trickier then just an adapter apparently. Also I do suspect the 911 Turbo S is not the last 360 wheel for fanatec so they may very well release some more budget oriented. But as mentioned you will probably have to wait for it...
Not much to choose from unless you are happy with 30$ wheels.
MS FFB wheel or the 911 turbo S currently. Bear in mind that the turbo S is available at september earliest.
From my experience with the MS FFB wheel, 911 turbo and now GT 3 RS is that on no point are they comparable to eachother. However surely I did preferr the MS FFB wheel over the gamepad still
MS FFB wheel or the 911 turbo S currently. Bear in mind that the turbo S is available at september earliest.
From my experience with the MS FFB wheel, 911 turbo and now GT 3 RS is that on no point are they comparable to eachother. However surely I did preferr the MS FFB wheel over the gamepad still
You can take them apart and readjust the pots but it´s a two man job minimum to put them back together again. They are not designed to be tinkered with and well I suppose you void your warranty doing so as well.
Unless you have warranty on them get some G25 pedals proven sturdy. works with the GT 3 RS but if you get that one you may as well get the CSP pedals. I don´t dare to comment on that one since I haven´t got mine yet
Unless you have warranty on them get some G25 pedals proven sturdy. works with the GT 3 RS but if you get that one you may as well get the CSP pedals. I don´t dare to comment on that one since I haven´t got mine yet
hope this isn´t offensive but there is other forums you don´t have to pay to participate in like gtplanet.com/forum and hopefully racesimcentral will go back up.
It´s hard to recommend since not until today or perhaps yesterday end users are getting theirs there will be way more impressions being available this week I am sure.
Based on the 911 turbo which is partly a G25 killer. (Pedals not as good) I do kind of expect the GT 3 RS to be the obvious choice. The wheel is essentially the same more fixes to the original design. Alcantera wheel versus the leather one on the 911 turbo. Shifters being the same.
So the wheel and shifters are G25 killers for me already on the 911 turbo. Pedals certainly looks solid and the initial impressions I got so far seem to be just that.
Otherwise as for drivers yes beta and it´s a bit inconvenient on Vista. Also on XP on the old wheel you had to manually recalibrate each time you booted up the computer but that is being more automated on the RS thankfully.
They are quite different though. The Fanatec wheels for me seem to be more serious replicating real feel versus Logitech seem to want to make their wheels as effortless to use with little or no resistance both on wheel, shifters and pedals. The G25 pedals you can easilly nixim brake mod to help with that though and even use Leo Bodnar module to increase the precision. That and slightly better precision in stock is why I preferr them over the old 911 turbo pedals. Though I liked the feel of the fanatec pedals overall. Not as solidly built so if you are going for the GT 3 RS you would probably in the long run preferr to run G25 pedals (yes they are compatible) or the clubsport pedals.
It´s hard to recommend since not until today or perhaps yesterday end users are getting theirs there will be way more impressions being available this week I am sure.
Based on the 911 turbo which is partly a G25 killer. (Pedals not as good) I do kind of expect the GT 3 RS to be the obvious choice. The wheel is essentially the same more fixes to the original design. Alcantera wheel versus the leather one on the 911 turbo. Shifters being the same.
So the wheel and shifters are G25 killers for me already on the 911 turbo. Pedals certainly looks solid and the initial impressions I got so far seem to be just that.
Otherwise as for drivers yes beta and it´s a bit inconvenient on Vista. Also on XP on the old wheel you had to manually recalibrate each time you booted up the computer but that is being more automated on the RS thankfully.
They are quite different though. The Fanatec wheels for me seem to be more serious replicating real feel versus Logitech seem to want to make their wheels as effortless to use with little or no resistance both on wheel, shifters and pedals. The G25 pedals you can easilly nixim brake mod to help with that though and even use Leo Bodnar module to increase the precision. That and slightly better precision in stock is why I preferr them over the old 911 turbo pedals. Though I liked the feel of the fanatec pedals overall. Not as solidly built so if you are going for the GT 3 RS you would probably in the long run preferr to run G25 pedals (yes they are compatible) or the clubsport pedals.
Yes they are released from customs and on it´s way here
Me and many others got shipping confirmation on the GT 3 RS wheel today
Yes but what was the problem? It doesn´t help you just saying it´s fixed
I suppose the OP is on an extreme budget though.
Don´t spend the money on the MS FFB wheel. You will have worned it out before Forza 3 is released. I want to remember the DriveFX working with PC if you really are on a super tight budget. May not be better then a new MS FFB wheel for Xbox 360 but will last longer I suspect and even if it may not be faster then gamepad for console racers it´s more fun still
Otherwise as mentioned if you can afford it 911 turbo S wheel though it´s quite a jump in budget of course. Just check with someone that have Race Pro, Forza 2 and such for example to see how good it actually works.
There is a patch for Race PRO this week which is supposed to solve some wheel issues.
Hopefully someone will fill the gap like the Carrera, DFP GT does for PS 3.
Otherwise why don´t you use the Xbox 360 gamepad for PC. It´s the best gamepad there is no matter what format for racing. You just need a wireless receiver
Don´t spend the money on the MS FFB wheel. You will have worned it out before Forza 3 is released. I want to remember the DriveFX working with PC if you really are on a super tight budget. May not be better then a new MS FFB wheel for Xbox 360 but will last longer I suspect and even if it may not be faster then gamepad for console racers it´s more fun still
Otherwise as mentioned if you can afford it 911 turbo S wheel though it´s quite a jump in budget of course. Just check with someone that have Race Pro, Forza 2 and such for example to see how good it actually works.
There is a patch for Race PRO this week which is supposed to solve some wheel issues.
Hopefully someone will fill the gap like the Carrera, DFP GT does for PS 3.
Otherwise why don´t you use the Xbox 360 gamepad for PC. It´s the best gamepad there is no matter what format for racing. You just need a wireless receiver
not available until july though it seems?
It´s not wireless but you can use the longer cable that goes to the pedals or order one from their webshop. It seems like they have some new accessory a rennsport shifter holder. I haven´t seen it on their homepage yet though.
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