Quote from mcgas001 :

Gah!, How can you two argue for so long...

When you've been in a relationship you'll understand

edit: that sounds gay......

Ok bring back your example of the 2 drivers who decide to go racing. But this time make it fair instead of saying they have both done the same amount of driving but driver 2 has played lfs for countless hours.

Say driver #1 has a sporty little hatch back that he has done a couple of trackdays in and has done loads of miles in.

But driver #2 has never once driven a real car and has only played on lfs at home for the same miles/time.

Who is going to win/be the better driver?

I think we've already gone over about 10 times in this thread why.

Wait a minute tristan im not saying that playing lfs does'nt prepare you for real life racing.

Its this that i dont agree with you about

Quote from tristancliffe :

Twaddle. If you are quick in LFS then you will be quite quick (car permitting) in real life

Because it isnt that simple?

Ed: what field do you work in now?

what computer do you have ....... errrr computer?

Q.what car do you drive?

A.F3

Q. Yeah but what chassis

A. F3

Quote from tristancliffe :

Do you know what 883 means? The Three means Formula Three. It was build to F3 regulations. It is an F3 car. It raced in F3. How can it not be an F3 car? Your car is still a Mitsubishi, even though it's no longer in the factory, isn't it? Or does it change from Mitsubishi to 'generic car' after 6 months?

No but then your car is not made by formula 3 its made for formula 3 by raynard i guess?

Now my mitsubishi was made by them for the WRC so that does not make it a wrc car its a mitsubishi evo v that was used for the wrc back in 1998.

Hmmm im holding of any predictions until qualifying, i would'nt be supprised if kimi and massa are sand bagging abit

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im happy with my evga 780i, but ive no dout that there are better intel chipsets

One last time as i think your still not understanding what im saying to you, (maybe your a little simple?)
You do not drive in F3 and as such do not drive a F3 car, Formula 3 is a race series not the name of the chassis.

Now if i had a Fw07 williams from the 1980's and i raced in a club event that event is not called F1 there in i would not be called an f1 driver therefore you are not an F3 driver.

Maybe you should read my posts next time instead of highlighting them to copy/paste then make silly remarks. Couple that with some learning about cars and mechanics and you'll be well away. You might even be able to stretch to a proper job.

Last edited by andybarsblade, Fri 14 Mar 2008, 16:59.

So that makes you the driver of an out of date formula 3 car, not a driver in F3 or F3 driver.

And even more off topic what sort of bikes do you like?

Quote from Glenn67 :

alot of race drivers also have the same gene makeup as those that a serial killers might have, etc

Very true i've heard that Kimi Raikkonen has bored loads of people to death

Quote from tristancliffe :

Maybe you'll also, like Sam, be able to read posts for what they say, rather than what you want them to mean.

You mean exactly what you did with nisskids post. So what your saying is aslong as people agree with you they are correct?

Quote from tristancliffe :

You've not watched EuroBOSS have you? Essentially ClubF1. Yes, it would make you an F1 driver, although not a professional or official F1 driver. I drive an F3 car, and therefore I am an F3 driver.

Whoo hooo so im a world rally driver now and a world superbike rider awesome.

And all these personal digs are really pathetic, It must really bug you that i have a better job, car and bike than you? Go cry to your dad and see if he will buy you another race car.

Sense of humour = fail?
even im bored of fighting with you now Tristan.
(dragons den style) Im out.

Quote from tristancliffe :

I wouldn't have expected anything more lucid from you.

Quote from SamH :

I mean.. W...T...F???

I was simply copying what your girlfriend said

Quote from nisskid :

this "F3 driver" seems to be missing the point of my posts, i dont think his opinion varies too far from mine if he left the immaturity at the door and actually read my posts.

i think the issue is he was too content on trying to pull apart technicalities in my argument, that he actually missed the whole point of what i was trying to say.

And that is all i was trying to say when i posted this :

(in fact in pretty much every answer you've just given i think you totally missed the point he was trying to make)

But instead of discussing this like a grown up he decided to act a child and use petty insults.

Quote from SamH :

nisskid, I don't get it. Is this the old black is white debate transposed onto whether or not Tristan exists? I've seen the videos, I'm sure it's really him racing F3.

http://www.fota.co.uk/drivers.php I dont see his name there?

Lets get one thing straight just because tristan owns a very out of date f3 car and races it with his own money at club level means nothing, If i went out and bought an old formula 1 car does that mean im a formula 1 driver no.

Simple fact is driving fast in lfs will not mean you can drive fast in real life because it is a computer sim and all the factors that nisskid has listed will contribute to that, Cant see why people cant understand that.

I mean.. W...T...F???

Quote from tristancliffe :

Where is the spelling error. I don't see one at all.

"No missing the point at all"

Good English Mr perfect

Quote from tristancliffe :

What have you done today? Learnt anything new today? Learnt anything at all? Ever?

seeing as you asked, I closed my workshop this morning because I wanted to go to a rail business show at the nec (being in the rail industry), Then on the way back myself and my colleagues (i do beg your pardon) went karting then before heading back into derby we went to donington park for a look at the gp museum. Not a bad day all things considered.

Quote from tristancliffe :

I replied that that's the most important thing. No missing the point at all.

Oh whats this a spelling mistake! OMG the what has the world come to?

Unlike you i have a life and dont consider the fact that my posts arent 100% to your standards a big deal. Get a shag before you disappear up your own arsehole your lordship.

Quote from tristancliffe :

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Considering our last little exchange Andy, I don't think you are in a position to judge if I missed what points he was trying to make.

Well let me show you what i'm talking about.

" it can only really simulate the physics of a car. i explained this in the first post, so maybe have another read of that."

To which you said:

"The physics are the main part of race driving."

He isnt saying that the physics are not the main part of race driving, He is saying that LFS can only simulate the physics of race driving.
Which is true

Next he stated:

"generally when u press something in LFS it will work, as well as having all the controls nicely setup where u want them etc. in real life its a lot different, you have brake variances with heat, clutch variances, steering wheel which carries massive force and will go all over the place with minor movement in the track, then having to change gears with a gearbox that sometimes just doesnt want to go into gear."

To which you said :

"Rubbish. Racing cars have controls in much more sensible places than on a keyboard. Nice big levers and switches (most of which you don't touch once your on the track anyway)."

Again you missed the point he was trying to make which was not about the arrangement of levers and switches in the cabin but more about how the levers and general operating devices change during racing for example brake fade, and clutch biting points.

Now if you would like to get off your high horse and discuss what i have written please feel free but please leave the childish comments out.

tristan your being a tit, you've clearly never been A, in a serious crash and been injured in it, or B, anywhere near the limit while your driving to slow to feel scared.

on a side note i dont know why your trying to act all high and mighty and talk down to people?

Quote from tristancliffe :

Twaddle. If you are quick in LFS then you will be quite quick (car permitting) in real life after a race or two.

not really as simple as the is it tristan.
what about fear i have zero fear doing 180mph around blackwood because i know if i crash i'll just pit in and hey presto ive got a new car and all my body parts where i left them.

(in fact in pretty much every answer you've just given i think you totally missed the point he was trying to make)

Last edited by andybarsblade, Thu 13 Mar 2008, 21:40.

i think your right, the rsv suits me a little better to as its a tall bike and im 6ft 3, i'll take one for a test ride, let you know what i think (i know im gonna love it)