shotglass i suggest you shut up, there is a difference between electronic and computer contolled idiot, my kettle is electric but it is not computer controlled, from wiki

A typical ABS is composed of a central electronic unit, four speed sensors (one for each wheel), and two or more hydraulic valves on the brake circuit. The electronic unit constantly monitors the rotation speed of each wheel. When it senses that any number of wheels are rotating considerably slower than the others (a condition that will bring it to lock[1]) it moves the valves to decrease the pressure on the braking circuit, effectively reducing the braking force on that wheel. The wheel(s) then turn faster and when they turn too fast, the force is reapplied. This process is repeated continuously, and this causes the characteristic pulsing feel through the brake pedal. A typical anti-lock system can apply and release braking pressure up to 20 times a second.

any mention of computers? no
so i suggest you shut up before you make yourself look stupid, im a ex mechanic and a fully qualified mechanical/electro rail engineer what do you do?

id want to know the speed of the ram and the make ect, aswell as knowing the mobo

sorry but your WRONG no evo has traction control, and since when was abs computer controlled? and abs is hardly a feature only found on evo's is it, all it has is active yaw control which is only a hydralicly controlled lsd on the rear axle(not all 4 wheels) that transfers the power to the wheel with the most grip.... same princples as a lsd which unless the car was made in the 50's all decent rwd cars should have..... now the later evo's 7,8,9's have a active centre diff aswell but all that does is to a have a preset delay time on the clamping force of the center diff clutch. the time changes weather its set to tarmac gravel or snow settings. oo000 the cars driving itself..... nabs

there is no computer controlled gizmo's driving the car for you and personally i dont believe that you have driven an evo, and even if you have i'll bet my left arm it was'nt round a track
anyway i dont care what you think of it, if a nonce in a hairdressers car doesnt like evo's because of how they are "styled" thats only another reason for me to like them :P

well like with any form of motor sport you will always get number 1 and 2 riders and teams, but no doubt the boys good
its just last year there was such a difference in straight line speed it was silly

last year i think the power difference of the ducati made some of stoners achivements look average, watching that race tonight showed me he really is that good grats to him, (but i still hope rossi shows him a thing or 2 soon) james was awesome aswell. as were the british guys in the 125cc races

Quote from ajp71 :

Of course compared to proper sports cars with similar power outputs it would be a different story.

see videos posted above. and why would you push anycar to its limits on public roads? unless your an idiot in a chaved up 106/saxo around town.

some very silly post's coming out here (as expected) tristan/ajp drive the cars your slagging off and you will change your mind, dont get me wrong i know impreza's understeer more than an ocean liner but setup properly they are awesome and i would'nt call any evo uninvolving to drive or dull

tinvek thats drag racing and proves nothing as the cars are modded, and what does drag racing have to do with handling? want to see a decent modded car that not only drag races but won the ten of the best handling challenge .... here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da4x1aGXUhg soon to be over 1000bhp check this out aswell cause its just awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... Ulavc&feature=related

and gezmoor you say that they are full of electronic gadgetry but the evo 5 in the wet weather vid is an rs model which is the basic spec one used to base rally cars on so no electronic gadgets at all, not even abs. To say evo's/subarus are full of electronics is just stupid, "ahhhh its from japan it must be full of them" kinda ignorant and stereo typical of you to think so, they have less "gadgets" in them than most of tthe european perrfomance cars out the today. take the new m3 for example asc, abs, electronic dampers, traction control, launch control ect

now im not saying that these cars are faster or better than the supercars in the video because they arent. but put against equal spec'd cars they are faster/better imo

Last edited by andybarsblade, Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:38.

+1 for a Amy Winehouse style beehive for scawen

i did'nt see the norris car but both those cars are awesome, old school quattro is cool

Quote from tristancliffe :

Try it on a dry track and watch the Evo go backwards though.

like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 3aI1I&feature=related

oh no. what about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... M_UFI&feature=related

err no again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... oX2xs&feature=related

ok better this time but against an f50. come on lol, faster time than the nsx to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... iGC_k&feature=related

fail

sorry cant find anymore

hi amp ma breadbin, id maybe go for the bfg 8800gts 190 quid and rapid. or maybe wait for the 9 series gx2's?

yeah i agree those lap times mean nothing really, tyre technology alone in the last 15-20 years has changed alot

edited to add i found this today made me laugh alot when i saw it sort of goes to show power is nothing without control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... A-dFs&feature=related

Quote from Technique :

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very good way of trying to prove a car is faster than it really is there,

http://fastestlaps.com/track3.html

sorry you showed the 355 doing a time of 1.07.89 but you did'nt show the fact that the same car also did a 1.05.61 aswell if you look at result #24 so maybe it was raining on its slower time? same with the viper #37. #56 civic doing a 1.07.6 what? a fwd car with less power? how can that be? oh and can i add that the top 5 on that list 3 of them are 4wd.

Quote from Technique :

His response was aimed at me... Thanks to him, I have now changed my thoughts on sports cars. Lightweight? RWD? That's for sissies. Devs, please add the Ford F250 Super Duty Extreme 4x4 edition to LFS. That thing has mad powah.

Just kidding andy. I just have a hard time respecting your opinion when you classify an s2000 as a hair dressers car. That thing will hand just about any car its ass on just about any track. Forget about the fact that it's a convertible. That has little to do with the car's performance. ...

dont mean to offend you but your wrong s2000's just arent that fast
tsukuba times 1.07.9 hardly handing anything its ass (and its the same on most tracks)

and im not taking about pickup trucks im talking about performance 4wd cars, lambos porkers the new gtr35 and yes even evo's

Last edited by andybarsblade, Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:17.

no gezmoor nothing to do with what you wrote. i agree with what you have written, although as an ex fireblade rider i did ride it on track fast and it never felt too fast on the road as its up to you how fast you want to ride it same with cars

i was going to but i cant be bothered?

blah blah blah

ok, yes they are slow

lol stupid comment, cant imagine anything more pathetic than a guy in a mx5/mr2/mgf(or any midlife crysis soft top) trying to act the tough guy thrashing round his very gay little car trying to prove its fast/good/not camp

s2000, mx5, mr2 what is this live for speed or live to hair dress?

bump to this, as its seems this car is really as awesome as all the hype said it would be,

vid vs 997 turbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gRaO69vfuU

and vs a 911 gt3

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/pl ... an_gtr_v_porsche_gt3.html

and its faster 1/4 mile than a z06 this thing is awesome

edited to add :

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track3.html

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html

Last edited by andybarsblade, Fri, 7 Mar 2008 04:42.

wait ive got it i'll enter a hybrid into the wtcc, its just different technology after all

they should run a indepenant league for diesels if they are not competative with petrol cars under the same rules, run a diesel only touring car championship,