Quote from Becky Rose :

So you are saying what started it was a march of solidarity against their would-be-tyrants and that they should not have been allowed to march?

We already lost the right to demonstrate outside the houses of parliament (A move I seriously have problems with), now you're saying we should abolish all marches?

What about the town carnival, they have floats and things, is that allowed in Barsblade's Britain?

It's very difficult to read some of the things you say as I find them, personally, quite disgusting. It's difficult for me to hear the level of racism and intollerence that you have brought forth, so i'm ducking out for the rest of the night and doing something else. In the meentime can you get back to answering my previous question and sourcing your statistics? Thanks.

What are you talking about marches for? Im talking about this:

At the time of the riot, Bradford had the second largest population of Asians of any UK city,

Quote from SamH :

All started by a BNP activist stabbing an Asian guy.

On 22–24 June, there were riots in Burnley; two months previously, there had been riots in Oldham. Tensions rose after the National Front attempted to organize a march in the city which was banned by Home Secretary David Blunkett under the Public Order Act 1986. The Anti Nazi League organised a rally in Centenary Square in the centre of the city, which was allowed to proceed. During the course of the rally, a rumour was spread by some of the marchers that National Front sympathisers were gathering at a pub in the centre of Bradford. A confrontation then occurred outside the pub in the city centre during which a Pakistani man was stabbed. According to the appeal court, this incident almost certainly triggered the riot.[8]

He went to a pub full of National front looking for trouble and found it.

And imo that wasnt what started it, Id say what started it was a city of people being invaded without having a say in it.

Quote from Becky Rose :

I have found some statistics, but they fall a long way short of andybarsblade's claim.

London, as Britains most ethnically diverse region, has about 40% population who dont identify as White British.

In the London boro's there are 5,103,203 white British people, this is not specifically schools this is total population. The largest minority is Indian (a former colonial state and one with whome we retain close links too much like Canada and Astralia - so you could consider them "friendly non-nationals") 436,993. The next largest minority is Black Africans at 378,933 - mostly from commonwealth nations, followed by Black Caribbean at 343,567. Figures from the National Statistics offices.

By religion it's even less of a "worry" for the xenophobes with 4.1m Christian and 1.1m non-religious persons, and 0.6m who preffered not to say, with the rest spread thingly amongst the other religions.

Whereas in London 71.1% of the population is white British/Irish, outside of London the figure is 90.9% (with 1.27% Irish and 2.66% other).

Although 12% of London's population is Asian, the figure is just 4.57% nationaly. Likewise the 10.9% black population of London is just 2.3% nationally.

We're so under siege aren't we!

Please excuse my previous statement as it was incorrect. The figure is for "inner city" London and its 78%. Dont believe me go take a look for yourself (While your at it pass through Leicester and Birmingham)

Quote from J@tko :

Both Leicester and Bradford are now white minorities. There are more non-white people than whites

Londons schools are 70% non indigenous pupils so not long till British people are the ethnic minority in our own capital city.

Quote from SamH :

I live in a Bradford postcode and the biggest threat I've felt to my peaceful and merry existence was when the BNP went door-to-door canvassing for the last election.

How about the riots of a few years ago in bradford?

Quote from Becky Rose :

Because if the BNP get close to taking power people like me are prepared to take up arms and shoot them and bury you in a shallow grave before they do it to me

Please Becky stop with all the tough talk no ones buying it.

Quote from Becky Rose :

where, if you happen to have been born coloured, I recommend not taking a dog for a walk.

Yes because im sure there are no areas in america where it would be unsafe for a white man to walk

Quote from ColeusRattus :

Reading this, I hope that you britains don't learn the same lesson the hard way like we Austrians and the Germans did some 60 years ago.

Why was your country being over run by people from asia?

Quote from Becky Rose :

It is quite unlikely that the BNP would ever get in power as they have less support here than the remnants of the nazi party in Germany.

Oh really apart from have 9 council members in stoke and one in the GLA? Its growing all the time.

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Quote from mookie427 :

thank you for illustrating my point (although not neccessarily a murder lol)

Sounds similar to that godawful Tariq Gafur (sp?) Asian police chief who complained about discrimination, claiming he wasn't able to get promoted and was victimised, yet he held one of the highest ranking most well paid jobs in the met......people were falling over themselves to get on the 'oh noes discrimination' bandwagon without looking at the facts

Dont forget the NBPA telling ethnics not to join the police force. Biting the hand that feeds

Wow this is better its only took 18 odd pages but it seems we can have a proper discussion on the matter with out silly flaming and name calling. Theres some great points being made from all sides

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

If Mr Brown had stabbed and killed Mr Khan he would rightfully have been sentenced for murder, he was the aggressor in this whole case, him and his son racially abused the Khans for a number of years, in one incident Mr Khan had ended up in hospital. I'm not trying to defend his actions, I'm telling you the facts, and why he quite rightly got sentenced for manslaughter without intent and unlawful wounding.

I do not for one moment agree that the sentences would be any different had the roles been reversed. Actually I do, if Mr Khan was the one racially abusing Mr Brown, I expect he would have been deported and sent away on one of those lovely RenAir private jets, after all he does look like a terrorist, and that's enough for the government to ignore his human rights and have him tortured.

Tbh i agree with you but i dont think he would have been deported.

Yes he's a poor victim, If stabbing an un-armed man in the back while having your son unlawfully wounding his son is'nt murder then what is, and like i said before if Mr Brown had stabbed Mr Khan just stabbed even if he did'nt die they would have thrown the book at him.

Who would have thought he'd use the race card against a bnp member

Quote from ajp71 :

there has already been a case of one of these racist bigots getting murdered by a neighbour who couldn't stand his abuse.

Absolute horse shit. A 52 year old man stabbed in the back by a muslim and unlawfully wounded by his 2 sons. 3-1 and even then gets the charges dropped to manslaughter. 8 years most likley only serve half that, Imagine if it was Habib who was killed they would have thrown the book at him and it would have been headline news for weeks. As it was it barely got a mention, Just like Poor young innocent Kriss Donald

Last edited by andybarsblade, Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:03.

Quote from andybarsblade :

Thing is this day in age with advances in forensic science there can be no doubt in some cases to some peoples guilt.

In some not all

Quote from duke_toaster :

Derek Bentley.
Ruth Ellis.
Timothy Evans.

Three reasons why no civilised society should have capital punishment.

Thing is this day in age with advances in forensic science there can be no doubt in some cases to some peoples guilt.

Quote from ajp71 :

Do you deny that the BNP wish to abolish the human rights act? Read their own literature for once.

Can you not comprehend that the full Sharia criminal justice system is blocked by the human rights act?

Therefore the BNP is the only major political party that has policies which could allow for Sharia law? The reasons they want to abolish the human rights act is to allow corporal punishment so whilst a party that dishes out religious hatred to muslims like there's no tomorrow is unlikely to impliment Sharia law they are effectively wanting the controsversial bits that offend people anyway.

I know what they want to do, Im not arguing that.
I would'nt want to offend that religon of peace.

Quote from Becky Rose :

Unless the BNP get in and abolish the human rights act that is...

Here we go again, Its like you have something personal against them

Quote from thisnameistaken :

If they change their opinions that radically in 20 years, they'll probably be planning to institute sharia law by the time they get elected.

Theres no need for them to.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7232661.stm

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1687576.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t ... /crime/article4749183.ece

Quote from The Moose :

Keep trying.

I was opposed to the BNP from my early teens.
I took the time to actually find out about them off my own back after being handed some of their literature in the street.
I researched what i could about them before coming to my conclusions.

The work of a mindless idiot bandwagon jumper? I think not.

Your 37 so your judging the BNP on their attitudes from over 20 years ago which is far from fair.

No doubt just the start of try to remove our national idenity.

"hairless, uniform mix of all races" with the same skin color.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Whose fault is it anyway? Have other religious groups complained or is it some over-zealous local councillor who's taken it upon himself to lead everybody into a new era of farcical interpretation?

Council from what i gather, Infact it seems every religious group is against it even muslim & jewish.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I'm not a christian, I'm not particularly bothered about whether christmas dominates the calendar here.

Well as long as you and a couple of others on here dont mind then i cant see the problem.

Quote from zeugnimod :

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=983617#post983617

I was only showing what i had read. And why not first class health care for all?

Nice one good luck

Quote from The Moose :

Lets see. You approve of their policy on the NHS.

I have never stated what policys i agree on or what ones i dont agree with. So another band wagon mindless idiot you've proven yourself to be once more