There may be lights in S3, if we get evenings, where it is pitch black .

Quote from Albieg :

Do you really think you've been correct to me? I took the issue extremely personally because your actions went personal when I explained my point of view and you managed to disrupt the sense of what I wrote by editing a previous post.

I wasn't being personal mate. I believe you have taken this whole thing out of proportion. Calm down.

Quote from Albieg :

Russian roulette is a game too, but I would take it seriously. Much more than LFS. I'm not into that sort of stuff and I'm obviously taking it to the extreme. I don't judge other people's attitude towards gaming as long as they show some respect for fellow gamers. Someone wanted an answer and I gave it, and that's all. I like people acting responsibly when interacting with other people, and I like to be responsible myself. I try to be that way. Right now hitting the track with some muscled car would not be the right thing for me. As long as I am absent, I am the sole judge. When I'll be present it won't be that way. But at the moment, as a judge, I'm quite heavy handed with myself. That's what I mean by taking things seriously. And I see nothing wrong with it, as long as I don't harass other people.

If I have offended you, I do apologise on my behalf, but don't you think you have been taking this issue a bit too seriously, especially when you haven't even done more than 15 laps?

Fantastic, thank you.

Quote from Albieg :

I don't care about that at all. To be clear I'm referring to the edits, not about the race.

In that case, let it go, we both said our views. Why not do some racing, you have only done 15 laps, get some experience under your belt .

Quote from Albieg :

I'm worrying about my words being transformed by your actions, and I'm warning others about you not playing fair, whatever the reason. That's all.

Ok, there could be a misunderstanding here. Which name do you think I am under when I race?

Quote from Albieg :

And I just realised you added the apologies before the *edit*, BigDave. This makes me look like a moron for my answer. That's simply wrong, wrong, wrong. The apologies were not there before.

Everyone makes mistakes mate. don't worry about it. I am a decent guy, but I can understand that I have missed the "basics" so I do intend to take that in more consideration in the near future.

I used the Print Screen key, to get my screenshots, but I am sure there is a quicker way to get the screenshots that would save directly to the LFS folder.

Quote from Renku :

Not when hotlapping, I can still wallslide in SO and the HL is 100% valid!


like I said somewhere before: LX4 in SO: Wall! - Nothing, again wall - just noticeable damage; again wall - little damage...

I noticed about the wallslide myself in SO. Bit suprised in that. But Im sure the damage was more then it used to be in the old patch.

Quote from mkinnov8 :

Agreed! Although I must add that the FO8 is fantastic to drive now, and the FOX has been improved also, Amazing cars to drive.

I was suprised that the V8, and FOX are much easier to handle, less wheel spin and tyres have made that difference.

Quote from Albieg :

As wikipedia says about twit: A silly, annoying, ineffectual, and/or imbecilic person, typically English.

Only the fact that I am not English. .

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We all know wikipedia has some wrong entries, but I don't think this is the case. In my opinion you repeatedly lacked in style failing to accept some basic facts, too. I find this quite ironical. Class is not water, we say here. Of course you can rejudge your attitude just paying attention to the thread and to the answers you received, evaluating the whole context and the consequences of your actions and your words. The title of this thread is irritating too. I expected to read some more or less accurate technical analysis, instead I got two replays I won't even bother downloading.

I have paid attention to the thread, just not botherd to reply until my name got whipped and touche. I would have made a more thorough analysis, but I was simply busy, and didn't have the time to do it. But points have been made clear on both sides. Which is what I am happy to achieve on this thread.

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Let's do some experimental spinning:
But of course you can always think you were right calling other players twits.

That is simply pure speculation on what you think I was meaning. I was being sarcastic. For example, someone makes a silly mistake, whether its real life, or online, you laugh for them, and tease them "You dipstick!" or "You twit!" Of course there were going to be crashes in the T1, or in every race on BF1, since the debut on Friday.

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I'll always think that referring that way to other people in public severely lacks in style and understanding. The defensive reaction was comical too, when you repeated the words of another forumer without adding any kind of content. Just like "hey, somebody else thinks what I think!" and hiding behind him just to show you're not alone. I know that.

Another pure speculation. I was realising that I was repeating what I said, but in a different form of description. I haven't kissed his arse, or hid behind since.

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You may score some points, I said, but you've chosen some of the weakest possible forms of expression: silly, annoying, ineffectual and imbecillic. That doesn't equate to you being a twit, of course. Unless you think that other paying LFSers who prompted you to start such a thread are twits in their real life.

I may have chosen the weakest forms, yes, but I'm still on the learning curve of how to deal with these matters appropriately. I don't consider other LFS users "twits" unless they are exactly like Laden, plus it would form a disrespect to other members, sets a bad example on this forum, and making a poor reputation for myself. As I already explained on the replays, "twits" above, it was not intended to insult.

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This could well be, but you don't know them enough to say such a thing. And I don't know you, so I won't base my judgement on a few words. Sorry for this spin, but I thought it was the best way to try to make you understand. If I offended you, please accept my apologies.

Well you got me to understand the views, but you have taken my sort of views the wrong way, and took this approach. Which I expected, as I realised that I did put in a poor effort on this thread, and should have made more time put into it, and take more consideration, but as already explained, I was busy, and had to deal things in a rush.

Now I do apologise if I offended others, I will be more considerate in my actions in the future, but I wasn't doing this to insult drivers, but just to get their attention and see a twitch in the vien of their foreheads. I am not the member you think I am right now. A wanker.

*edit* I just changed the summary of the topic on top. Hope that looks better.

Last edited by BigDave2967, Tue 25 Apr 2006, 08:26.

Cheers Dan.

Quote from JTbo :

At 12UTC I will host this long race:
Single event,
Car to be used: Road cars, XR GT and maybe XF Gti (Suggest some)
Track to be used: Fern Bay Black.
Server name: JTbo's 30 lap race
Qualify: Yes, 1 lap
Password: morethis

I'm open to car suggestions, one car is going to be XR GT, other road cars you may suggest here, time for suggestion ends after 3 hours.

It takes around 1 hour and 45 minutes to complete this race so you need to prepare bit drink perhaps and whatever you need, maybe friend to switch over

I will start server before scheduled race start so you can join and qualify 11UTC

I hope to see many guys there, lot of proper clean racing following racing code

What is 12UTC? I am interested in participating .

Quote from Albieg :

Curiously enough, as a newbie who doesn't go online often, I second the position of SamH. I didn't express my opinion about that before because I don't think there's always strength in numbers. But now I feel I have to do it. Although BigDave may have some points, his initial attitude, as pointed out by some other forum users, is somewhat elitist and doesn't consider at all the fact that the BF1 is completely new, so the mayhem could well be over in some time. For practical reasons LFS won't go far if this elitist attitude will prevail. That's why I was particularly glad to see an experienced LFSer like The Angry Angel agreeing with me. But anyway, consensus is not truth. We'll just have to wait and see.

How do you mean by my initial attitude? *If it helps, I'm asking in curiosity, not in anger. *

Just give the whip on the backside, and they will get the job done.

Quote from SamH :

I'm gobsmacked to see this thread. We've had the BF1 how long, and already people are pointing and screaming n00b at the slower drivers?

I've never seen anything more ridiculous get so much unwarranted affirmation. It's pathetic. Get real.

It's pathetic. Get real. Pity I expected more from you because everyone is talking about this apporpriatley, and not discussing the "quality" of this topic. If you don't like this topic, you don't have to post here.

There is a difference. Drivers with months, even years experience on LFS, that can quickly adapt to the BF1, and drive away and win consecutive races. If you see on the replay of "BF1 Style" 1st place battle was enjoyable, and how it should be, especially after a few days.

But still a majority of new drivers and heading straight to BF1s instead of the more basic cars, and they are becoming full of themselves, and think they know what the braking point is, and making the corner. Especially when they spin, and not pit at all. *especially when they are on the racing line*

Quote from Batterypark :

Mkinnov, people who lack the ability to drive the BF1 adequately, much less race it properly, should practice somewhere else than in online races. Also, being a newbie and being new to BF1 are very different things.

Agreed. I have already got used to the TC and speed of the F1 car, the difference is, that they have no clue of experience about braking points, turnings. I'm just repeating waht Batterypark has said here.

This is how BF1 racing should be.

Take a look at this replay (BF1 STYLE) and look at the first and second driver *me* nothing but pace racing, times nearly the same, and not a driver to spoil it. I most certainly enjoyed that race. Now I can understand that its only 2drivers, but you can see that both of us were driving appropriatley and fairly. I can understand that its only come out on Friday, but surely just after a few days of driving the same car, you would be adapted to the TC, the braking points, and the high speeds of this car?


Not like this in blackwood. (BF1 TWITS) - the title is not to insult members, but as a joke, because I was laughing my head off when I saw the accidents. I was twit myself when I took the first corner, and missed a gear and spun off into some poor sod.

Just shows how bad it can be, at the beginning, expecially with lots of newbies on board. Now I can understand that there are so many drivers dying to try out the BF1, but shouldn't we practice on the slower formula cars, to adapt to the open wheelers, before taking part in the BF1. These cars are so fast, that you would have no idea, when to turn, when to brake, and when to put the foot down again. The BF1 isn't going anywhere, and you can use it anytime you wish, but shouldn't you practice on the slower cars first, to get the feel of things, before actually moving on to the fastest car of the game?

It is going to be very hard to get a good race going for everyone involved the BF1, if drivers don't have the experience to deal with the BF1s. It is recommended that all drivers, even experienced ones, should drive on the Formulas, V8s for a while before driving the BF1. I have done that myself.

Last edited by BigDave2967, Tue 25 Apr 2006, 08:22.

Thank you very much Dev, your work won't go unnoticed

Remind me to get TWO sets of boxers to wear, when someone big comes out.

Quote from bal00 :

Stop bumping this already.

I am more or less asking the questions in humour than "bumping" the topic. You can always ignore the topic, and wait for the mods to clear it all out.

Then why did you post here?

Quote from Jakg :

i didn't fall for that!

/me checks liveforspeed.net.....

Damn you!

*evil laugh*

Look at my Pichu taunting .

Well it was kind of obvious, since they announced that it would be out TODAY

Quote from inCogNito :

i wonder if there really are any moderators around?

i mean a fake "Patch is out" thread hast to be deleted (or at least closed) without any comment.
As well as those other total pointless threads.

i don't get it.

I will say my defense into that. I only put that in for a little bit of humour, because everyone seemed a bit too tense waiting for the patch to come out. So I put that in to break the ice.

Pointless threads are there yes, but thats all due to the excitement of this patch. Once everyone gets a shot on it and takes it out of their system, everything will soon be back to the way it was before the announcement of the F1 patch.