Quote from yeager :

I'm working on getting to Int A, the problem is the FJR/F08. I just can't stand racing this car with the bugs in shifting. So this makes it all the harder to get to the BF1. I'm only racing FJR/F08 to get to BF1.

you can overcome the shifting issues by revving the engine right up to the redline. Also try to avoid shifting in turns, especially for 5th-6th.

had the same last sunday, pretty much cost me the 2nd place in a 61 lap league race. Making actual setup changes and repairing the car makes sense, but just changing the tyre type to another one and repairing the car doesn't.
I think it should be separated somehow.

i`ve been trying to improve my SS licence over the past couple of days/weeks, but the SS1 is no place for me as I get 7-8 points only even for a win. On SS2 usually nobody races, yesterday I went there to do some races as I saw 5-6 (!!!) people there, more than ever perhaps! After two races everybody left except for me and another guy. It is impossible to improve my licence with that number of racers. All I want to do is drive the FO8 and not that restricted fjr version, I wish there were public servers with FO8.

To get on topic, I got 15-20 points even when being the only driver in my class, although I set the record for that track. (Actually chasing the record=hotlapping was the only reason I didn`t leave after only 2 of us remained there)

I can imagine many people got their higher licence by driving alone, which is not right, but with so few people racing, there is no other way, now is there?
I did not have fun racing, as there was no racing at all, I don`t care that much for the points, but I need them for the FO8, so currently I am in a dead end situation.
I don`t know what needs to be done to populate the SS2 server, but it doesn`t seem to fill up on its own, it`s not fun with 2 drivers.
Banning higher licenced racers from SS1 is no solution either as sometimes that is the only place to get full grid racing.

Wouldn`t it help to organise some kind of events for SS2 (or for any other scarcely populated servers for that matter)? There is the endurance day, but I feel it should get a better promotion, even maybe a scheduled start time with proper 10 minutes of qualification (19 UTC for example), announcement in the forum, a kind of semi-league pick up racing. You would have a chance to prepare and get in the server in time for the race.

I`d be interested too, where will you have to sign up? raceauthority page?

i had this issue as well, you can minimise the affect when setting up the gears properly and revving the engine almost to the limiter in 4th, 5th and 6th (3rd is also tricky, so rev high). Attached a setup I used in a couple of races where I managed to avoid frustration by using the above "technique".

on a side note, I noticed this in a non-restricted f08 as well. I don't think it is a bug, however I am not a mechanic nor an expert in gearboxes so I can give no explanation, but it seems to be too inconsistent to be a bug. It would be nice though if Scawen could give an explanation what this is supposed to be modelling.

we have a commander, now we have a general, we need an admiral and some ensigns and the army will be complete

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just kidding good luck

not that much you can do with the FXO there, try to be more gentle with the throttle. But a general direction is to raise the tyre pressure and lower camber (more positive) on the front tyres. you should check your brakes as well so you do not lock them under braking.

welcome guys, I hope you two will enjoy your stay with us and prove your talents in some of the leagues we enter/plan to enter.

for those who haven't heard about Mike yet, will see he is a worthy addition when you see him driving for us. He just started in the Hungarian LFS league and has some lfs experience to collect yet, but he has the talent to compete with the fastest out there.

anybody remember patch X? The balancing was perfect there for the TBO's.

get better soon Becky!

there is an as national set on our setupfield (link in my sig), you could try that. change the wings so the top speed is around 270-275, while keeping the car balanced and switch to R3's. 15-20 laps are no problem for R3's.

Though you might want to tweak the brake balance to avoid lockups.

Quote from joen :

Thank you all for your input

@csurdongulos: yes, I am in doubt about the quad core and I'm considering the E6850 as well.
Would I benefit more from the E6850 than the Q6600 because of the bigger cache?
Thanks for the info about the PSU, will definitely consider that one


So, what's the situation with graphics cards atm? Are nVidia and ATI roughly on the same level? I've used nVidia the most, my latest experience with ATI wasn't too great.

regarding the CPU: you would benefit from the higher frequency, q6600 is supposed to have more cache, doesn't it? I am not sure on that one. but it is not yet worth purchasing a quad core, no games take advantage of it, especially not LFS. For the OS, dual core is enough.

Regarding GFX cards. Nvidia are ahead with their 8800 series, but ATI are somewhat cheaper with the 3850-70 cards, and the factory cooling is also better/quieter. For LFS in that resolution a 3850 with 256 ram is plenty enough, but you might want to get one with 512, just for the sake of it, not much difference in price, but could come in handy for the future.

you would be better of with this CPU for the same price:

http://www.alternate.nl/html/p ... Details.html?artno=HPHI37

Also, get another 1 GB of RAM.

Regarding the video card, if you want the best, buy a geforce 8800GT with 512 RAM (http://www.alternate.nl/html/p ... Details.html?artno=JBXVL1) 270 EUR

But if you want a cheaper card, for LFS at max details and most games a x1950 pro would be fine (for other games at 1280x1028, medium detail, no AA, AF), but considering the 3850 costs the same on this site (150 EUR), go for that. If you want a little better performance choose the 3870 (200EUR).

Otherwise it looks fine, though I have been told to stay away from WD hard disks, went for a hitachi instead, but it's up to you.

edit: ah and the PSU. I have a seasonic S12-II 430W. One of the most silent 12 cm fan PSU there is and it will handle your system without issues. (http://www.alternate.nl/html/p ... Details.html?artno=TN4E50)

Last edited by csurdongulos, Wed 9 Jan 2008, 13:51.

Quote from Jonesy_ :

...but you can go around it by just holding the shift button pressed untill the gear changes.

yes, that workaround does it, but then again comes the question, what difference does it make how long you hold the shift button? At these misshifts the revs are already cut, holding the shift button for longer, won't cut it anymore I guess.

thanks for the other comments as well, guys, ajp's comment is completely reasonable, and that is what I was thinking too. But I feel that there is some inconsistency on how this is modelled because the "holding the shift button" trick is working.

Or are there such quick things at work, which cannot be noticed by us?

Chris, come on, I wrote specifically that I am referring to ignition cut gearboxes, which have the unique feature that you can stay on full throttle while shifting.

Aero,
yes, I noticed as well that it happens mainly on uphill sections, but then again, I had it on flat road as well.

If I short-shift on an uphill bit, it accepts the gears every time without problems. So the only possible thing I see is the torque stuff you mentioned, but more feedback on this would be welcome.

Sorry, didn't quite know where to put this one. I have some misshifts when changing up through the gears with the FOX. What is this related to? Am I using the wrong gearing, they are too far apart and they cannot click in, or what's the issue?

I have attached a short replay, bl1 hotlapping. Going up the hill to the start finish straight look for the revs when I'm in 4th about to change to 5th. Throttle at 100%, but revs still drop for a (milli)second. It is driving me crazy. It cannot be my controller, as clearly LFS gets the input of the gear change (otherwise the revs wouldn't drop), did anyone experience similar stuff in cars with ignition cut type gearboxes?

Thanks for any replies, and feel free to move this thread to the appropriate location if you find one.

Quote from timnightingale :

Funny, I never had this issue at all. Then as soon as I patched to version Y, it started happening.

I'll update the thread if I find a fix.

have you tried what I suggested?

I am having similar issues, though I think it is driver related, nothing to do with LFS. I had it before patch Y as well and have the same issue with other games.

What works for me is, ALT+TAB and then setting the catalyst AI to disabled from standard and vice versa if AA+AF gets lost again. Though on a new reboot, selecting optimal quality (that is 4xAA, 16xAF) from the standard settings menu works always, after shift+f4, alt+tab or exiting lfs, it is lost, but can be "recalled" with the above mentioned.

In XP I have to do the above, in vista 64bit it works without any problems though.

Quote from SparkyDave :

I too have seen the oposite indicator used and I think this is a location thing, in another thread (I will find it) it was stated that some eastern european HGV drivers signal this way to allow you to pass them on 2 way roads!!

yep, truck drivers here in Hungary do that quite often, they signal to the right to show you that you can overtake them safely, noone is approaching in the other lane.

Quote from Gentlefoot :

I've also noticed a similar affect relating to tyre temps on some low powered cars. For example, in the FOX I am finding that on cold tyres I have a top speed 1 - 1.5 mph higher compared with when the tyres are warmed up. I can only assume this is caused by the increased mechanical grip the warm tyres give you.

Shouldn't higher tyre pressures (as of with hot tyres=higher pressures than cold tyres) result in less friction thus higher top speed? Do they grip that much that they slow the car down instead?

Quote from lizardfolk :

Pardon me for being ignorant. But the demo people HAVE THE FBM?

they do indeed.

and all these threads are really just sad. strange most of the thread starters have drift in their names in some form

have you installed patch Y into a separate folder?
you probably just did not specify the correct LFS.exe for the firewall.

Quote from Gougoodthing :

Agreed.

Definitely love to see, at a minimum, a different section for qf/short race and longer races.

you guys are aware that you can enter race, drift, etc into the search field and get a list of setups that were uploaded for the appropriate category?

Until the categories are implemented, this is the best workaround.

Quote from Riders Motion :

Is it possible to limit the number of setups per day? Nyze is posting 100s on setups at the moment, and most of them sucks...

he has posted 6 in total, and none in 5 days, I would hardly call that 100s. If they suck, you are free to post better ones!

Them being drift sets most people can hardly judge their quality (I can't for sure, as I don't drift). As long as it remains reasonable and we don't see a guy spamming setups we will not limit the setup upload in any way.