Quote from Scawen :

Well my main point about the force feedback is the strength of the force.

After about 100 laps in the real car, my arms were very tired, and by that point of the day I found it quite hard to get out of the car when I pulled in for a break. It was just so hard to lift my body after all that driving - my arms were kind of numb and felt like jelly. Although I can drive a road car all day long and my arms are fine - it's completely different. And even after just a few laps, coming round the high speed chicane and turning right onto the straight, I was longing for the straight, where I could relax my arms. It was just much harder work than you will get from a normal force feedback wheel.

And that is although my arms are relatively quite strong, although I admit I'm not very fit right now but I've been a biker since age 19, and did some upper body training for a week before using the FBM, still, the forces were very strong.

And the thing about saying a sim is like real life... well the limit is that limit where you can say a film is realistic. OK, a war film can be realistic but it's not going to be just like being in a war. And a picture of mount everest may be nice but I think it's going to look a whole lot bigger if you are actually standing looking at mount everest.

thanks. maybe thats one of the benefits of a sim is that you dont have to endure such things lol. i know what you mean about the whole body thing though, i remember being in the car with my dad and you were constantly tensed up around the corners to stop yourself moving in the seat. to think it was only a 1.3 Suzuki swift GTI too

is LFS an american game?

brilliant idea. although i would have liked it more if it was in pdf form and emailed reguarly.

should your tyres heat up evenly or is that a result of inccorect camber? cause the insides of mine heat up the most. i obviously know why that is the case but i would have thought an even amount of heat over the entire lap would represent optimum camber?

i try to keep to the theory as much i can but i havent quite mastered it yet so id say im either slightly over cautious and therefore slow, or slightly too aggressive and slow because i either start a slide or mess up the line.

people often think im a bad driver cause i brake too early yet i often seem to pull away from them over the entire lap.

Quote from Scawen :

Anyway I guess the biggest difference was the noise, the strength of the force feedback, this feeling of being strapped tightly right in there and hardly able to see over the front, although apparently I was actually too high. Another very important thing is being able to feel the forces and tyre skidding with your own body. I think that can help to find the limit more accurately in reality (at least for me - I have got a feeling I am better in reality than in a sim - I hope so anyway, but maybe I am just kidding myself). Spins can still take you by surprise and one thing of course is in reality you are less willing to spin off.

can you shed some light on how to interpret the FFB better? people say FFB is one of the best things in LFS although ive just gotten a momo and never used it before except for those nascar arcade machines you got in service stations nearly 10 years ago.

i tried to feel for similarities in normal driving but i think with the PS it makes it less obvious to the point where you dont really get any feedback from it.

thanks,

please help me. i cannot drive like this and i cant find the solution.

anybody whos ever programmed before will know just how big 133mb actually is! the reason its alot smaller is cause it doesnt have all the fancy graphics menu's, pictures, etc etc that a mainstream game will have that bulks it out something rotten.

Quote from Sm0k3 :

Did you know that the Raceabout is a real car?

lol, no i didnt know that! just googled it. its a pretty rare car tbf. still, i think it looks like some 90's japanese concept car that was never gonna be made anyways :P

in that case why not just add the others as well?

also id like to see a Radical type car too...

few questions, why should you not eat carbs during the event? and what has protein got to do with this?

i think its worth the gamble dont you :P

a revised version of the Raceabout. i love small MR cars but i hate the Raceabout, it looks 'orrible. if it could be made to resemble more of an Elise/MR2/VX220 it would be so much better.

what is the fix for this? ive seen other threads linking to the wingman site but i cant find anything that will fix this. one says i dont have a momo installed, the other cleared all my stuff but didnt actually achieve anything.

this thing has just cost me a place on the last corner too

thanks,

i think that M3 looks retarded.

cant wait to see the finished product!

i couldnt help but notice the pedals look too offset to the right of the steering wheel?

edit: i also think the screens should be lower. if you imagine where the road would be in respect to the dashboard i think it would be alot lower.

Last edited by Dac, Sat 5 Jul 2008, 21:12.

very nice book. thanks

driving practice states that you squeeze the pedal on and ease it off. if you pump the pedal then you are causing unecessary weight transfer, and a longer stopping distance.

i know what you mean. im the guy that is too cautios into the first corner and ends up getting rammed by some pillok who cannot stand to be behind somebody who isnt going all out at T1. i find if you use the tightest possible line all the way round the first 3 or 4 corners (almost on the grass) then everybody else seems to avoid you and understeers off to the outside.

i like DC. hes a very british driver and some of his remarks are well funny.

on a side note id like to see Hamilton put in one of the Honda's and see him work his way up like all the rest did. i think the media have bigged him up so much that people are expecting from him what he doesnt have (but will almost certainly have one day!). i just dont like how hes been spoonfed into a top car when others have had to fight for their seats in a much lesser car.

these are a great idea. using the keyboard sucks tbh. and with only 6 buttons on the momo im all out.

thanks MattxMosh. youve given me some good ideas to play with

FFB is quite tireing! can anybody give me a decent set for it cause im sure i dont have it correct. its harder to handle than without FFB. or does it take time to get used to it??

just been using it and i like it alot. especially the menu and interiors

Quote from [RF]-art555 :

Thats ingame, right?

You also need to do what Fabri said in Gaming device's properties

oops. lol. i feel like such an idiot. yes its sorted now. it shouldnt be set as default though

Quote from Fabri91 :

You mean you have unchecked the box "combined pedals" in the control panel?

where it says Throttle / Brake Axis, its set on 'seperate'.

ive got the hi-def package and its great. however the background pictures which have been used make some menu options very hard, if not impossible to read.

how can i correct this?

thanks,

just got my momo. the wheel seems to be working fine and is on X axis (0). however the pedals are combined on the Y axis (3), even though they are clearly set as 'seperate' on the box above.

thanks,