I was wondering if the AI will be able to pit anytime soon. Its been over a year since S2 went Beta and I still can't run an endurance race against the AI for strategy purposes.

Or maybe I was joking.illepall

Why doesnt this work for LFS right now???

Quote from Ger1 :

hi my question is the next :
when will be tweak for the u patch ?
thanks for the answer.

Ask a few more times and some people will tell you what is going on with the utmost respect and in a polite manner.

Quote from Gabkicks :

it seems we hurt his feelings. awww... need a hug :ices_rofl

no pt to seeking to the immaturity of hurling insults online. nothing gets solved that way. thats for everyone

You have to understand, that the people on this board are fanboys to the extreme. They make it a sport to try and get people to overheat and blow up like that. I am not sure if its where they grew up (Is it something about Europe??), how their parents raised them, etc... but these guys do their best to shoot down ideas in the rudest way possible. So I wouldn't entirely blame people for blowing up after being patronized continuously.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Aha, the old "you must be geeks because you are smarter than me" come back. Priceless. Works everytime. Have you noticed the smart ones, you know how to read, don't tend to swear in every other word. Maybe because their IQ is greater than a pheasants.

There, I think you'll agree that's a MUCH better comeback than your one.

For someone trying to insult another on the basis of intellect, that was a grammatically flawed and otherwise immature comment. There's nothing like sinking below the level of the person whose arguing techniques you're criticizing.

Every car in LFS slips off too slowly still. While the patch increased overall grip, it still is pretty off concerning sliding. When you can get a better start by revving the engine all the way and dropping the clutch, you know there is something still wrong.

In real life steering gets lighter when a RWD loses traction, not so much in FWD, but its still there. LFS FF does none of that. Netkar still takes the cake.

These might be easy to add or difficult, who knows.

-Helmet view. Yes I think it'd be nice to have the standard 1st person and also have a helmet view with the visor tint and limited view up and down, not for any advantage or disadvantage, but just to add a little extra in there.

-Drag Racing needs open starts. They need to make it so you can heat up the tires and even jump the lights. I know drag racing is pretty much a novelty at this point but it could bring it alive by allowing drive-backs and make you have to stage to trigger a light tree countdown. Heating up the tires just right and getting the proper launch at the right time could really bring it into a decent game mode.

Quote from Woz :

I think there is far more "snap" at the edge of traction now. Remember that 90% of the snap you feel IRL you feel through your body. Watch replays and you will see the cars snap.

Well the devs should make it so you get that sensation in the game. Getting physics 100% right by the numbers on a PC won't bring about the same fun-factor as making it feel as real as in real life.

Quote from smokenyall :

it wony let me online with this mod on?????

No, it will let you play online. You can make your 10 second drag car and race it against 240hp daily drivers.

illepall

Of course you can't use it online!

LM Prototype cars
Classic LM cars types
GT1 class race cars (600+hp)
5+ Liter V12 Mid engine car
Small displacement high revving V8 mid-engine car
~350hp FR saloon.
V8 pony car
And finally a 1,000hp supercar.

...a few in each class to keep it different.

Quote from maczo :

Mmmmkay...
so what's this entire thread all about?
LFS is unfinished and has flaws? Wow, Sherlock(s), thankyouverymuch. Nobody noticed. Really. Nobody ever mentioned those flaws in countless threads. NOBODY. NEVER. EVER. REALLY.
illepall
Have a nice day.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you obviously haven't read much of the thread.

Quote from Tyrion :

1st rule of Troll-stop: You do not respond to a troll.

2nd rule: You DO NOT respond to a troll.

3rd rule: You do not rise to the bait.

4th rule: If this is your first night at Troll-stop, you have got TO TRY to not respond.

Whose the troll? The guy agreeing with the thread starter or the ones that come in bashing the thread starter's opinion and shouting him down? The irony is so thick I can taste it.

PS: JESUS CHRIST, I just realized a person with a lower post count tried to call the person defending the point of view of the thread starter a TROLL. Everyone that is on his side is *Officially* mentally retarded, there's no other way of explaining it. I wish I could use less crude terminology... but its just so fitting.

Last edited by Dethred, Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:23.

Quote from tristancliffe :

If Dethred says something useful, or something that contributes to LFS, even just a reasoned argument for or against something let me know. I won't be waiting up. Dethred, I'm sure you'll reply to this with some moronic statement attacking me, but I won't be able to read it. If you're small minded and petty enough you'll do it anyway, which will just prove that point.

I won't have to do it. I have people PMing me with material almost daily.

"Well I saw the irony. I didn't think Yanks did irony.
Most of these people have their heads up their arses.
Good post." -Anon

"Hi there
I think you already know that, but I'd like to remind you that you have no chance against them concerning the argument. You have no reputation on the forum and you disagree with most people by not praising the game, which makes you a stupid bastard in their oppinion
As a matter of fact I agree with you in saying all they can do is flame people who are not over the moon from the current state of LFS, but you'll have to put up with that. That is forum community.

Regards
_______"

I don't have to say it anymore, two good PM's from other users. This is getting easier and easier.

Oh wait, if I don't include their names that must mean I wrote it. I am just waiting for you tools to say that.

Last edited by Dethred, Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:21.

Quote from SamH :

Wrecker. Nothing more to be said.

Maybe I don't play LFS enough to be insulted by the term wrecker. Maybe you should get out more?

Quote from rafo_cardenas :

ROFL ...now I am a jackass and say crap. Very adult and respectful way of passing your point of view.
This gets more and more entretaining by the day. Lets see what I am tomorrow.


PS. For those who have not followed this thread, it was me who posted "If you don't like it don't play it", meaning, why bother discussing over a game? if you feel so strong about the flaws of a game, why bother even playing it (not to mention posting about it), get that other game that maybe you think is better. End of story.
If I play LFS for almost 3 years now, is because if have fun, sure there are flaws, but for me the pros are largely greater than those flaws, and with the aggregate bonus that in here you have a comitted dev team which makes every effort to solve those flaws, little by little.
So, my question is why bother wasting your precious time in something you dont enjoy?

After actually reading past the first few sentences I had to respond again.

First of all, typing "ROFL" and then proceeding to sarcastically call someone else mature is the most Ironic thing I have seen in this thread to date.

Secondly, not knowing that someone can criticize a game for its flaws, say its on the right track, but still enjoy playing it, is beyond retarded. You have to be extra strength stupid to think that someone can't have any qualms about a product to use that product.

What your real problem is, though, is you don't understand that the devs created this forum and get many of their ideas for fixes and improvements FROM US. So when the majority of you are merely praising the game and shouting down criticism, you're HURTING the process. Its all right, someday you'll grow up and realize this is how it works.

PS: WHERE ON EARTH DID I SAY I DON'T ENJOY THE GAME??? COME ON, READ FOR GOD'S SAKES!

Last edited by Dethred, Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:12.

Quote from SamH :

You're clearly not interested in LFS. You're only interested in being inflamatory and obstructive. You've not made a single interjection with any purpose but to insult, agitate or otherwise aggrovate in as long as I can be bothered reading up. You are a wrecker. If this were a game server, you would be banned. Wreckers are not tolerated on LFS.

You obviously have a very small intellect. I entered this thread to try and make you fools that whitewashed the thread starter realize how rude you're being. Instead you did the expected and just made stupid comments about me, knowing I was just being sarcastic.

PS: I've been playing the game longer than you, I own an S2 license, I play several times a week... But sure, I understand how someone as constantly confused such as yourself feels that I am not interested in the game.illepall I was waiting for someone to say that, congrats SamH, you get the "Most predictable idiotic statement of the month" award.

Quote from Gabkicks :

his goal is simply conflict. doesnt matter if its unneccesary or if he's wrong. maybe his goal was to get some attention which we're giving him.

You almost figured it out, except you still replied despite your realization that repeated stupid remarks such as "Don't play it if you don't Like it" is fueling this. For instance my first post in this thread wasn't even serious, because I knew I'd get 10 moronic responses within a few minutes. At this point its just entertaining watching people get all huffy puffy and try and defend a piece of software. Seriously though, Based on what I always criticize (and most of you have said I was wrong about), and the patches which have fixed the problems, I have been consistently right.

I remember when all you tools were saying S2's Physics were perfact, hundreds of you. Does that mean the current set of physics is wrong? By 95% of you guys' opinions, everything since the S1 Demo physics are wrong. But you won't realize that will you?

PS: All you guys had to do was say "I'm sorry you feel that way" to the thread starter instead of shutting him out and saying his opinion is wrong. Instead, you all gave the benefit of the doubt to the game and not to the person critiquing it.

Feed it some more smart guys!

Quote from rafo_cardenas :

ROFL ...now I am a jackass and say crap. Very adult and respectful way of passing your point of view.
This gets more and more entretaining by the day. Lets see what I am tomorrow.


PS. For those who have not followed this thread, it was me who posted "If you don't like it don't play it", meaning, why bother discussing over a game? if you feel so strong about the flaws of a game, why bother even playing it (not to mention posting about it), get that other game that maybe you think is better. End of story.
If I play LFS for almost 3 years now, is because if have fun, sure there are flaws, but for me the pros are largely greater than those flaws, and with the aggregate bonus that in here you have a comitted dev team which makes every effort to solve those flaws, little by little.
So, my question is why bother wasting your precious time in something you dont enjoy?

You're right, just because you say things as stupid as "Water is wet" and "The Sky is Blue", that doesn't mean you're a jackass. You guys always prove my point. You can criticize my approach to illustrating this to you, but do you expect me to try and get reasoning across to you via courtesy when you guys beg to be treated like halfwits? Get real.

Quote from KiDCoDEa :

Dethred you have converted me.
Before i thought u made a puddle of mud look sophisticated, but now, after reading all these posts you made about small minds i totally understand you and your constructiveness. So much it made me wanna follow your party.
Do i need to shave my head or do you allow different hairstyles?

Irony is a concept you don't quite understand yet, isn't it?

Quote from SamH :

I just reviewed his posts. I think counselling is in order. I think he wins the prize for LFS's most negative disposition.

No, I just despise a lot of the people on here for terrible posts and making jackass remarks like "He needs counseling".

PS: You seem to have made a good post towards the thread starter, you must be in the 1-2% that think the game is fine but don't whitewash whatever is said to the contrary. Maybe the thread starter feels the lacking qualities in the game were not properly addressed on the webpage?

Last edited by Dethred, Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:27.

Quote from Hankstar :

Assuming someone's a highschooler and of a lesser intellectual level then you because they disagree with your constant insulting of so-called "fanboys", and object to the childish grade-school sarcasm displayed in your first post = the height of arrogance. Exhibit A:

And your taking a joke out of context is Exhibit A,B, and C for why you make no point at all.

Quote from Hankstar :

"Forum whore", "licking dev nutsack" ... stooping to grade-school level insults of an entire community is clearly the product of a highly educated mind, as is the enormous chip on your shoulder which spawned them.

Blind support for your assertion that majority of LFS players are in denial about LFS's problems and that you're the only one who has noticed them or brought them to our attention = the height of arrogance. Go and see if the Whitehouse is hiring. They have a new war to plan.

I'll have a stab and say that most of us know about LFS's problems without needing you to inform us. I'll also say that we like to play this sim despite its problems because we know they're being worked on and bitching about them solves nothing. Your presence on this forum seems either to be inflammatory or utterly pointless. Try and keep your assertions about me to yourself as you're obviously lost in the fog of your own arrogance.

Actually the fact that people have PM'ed me agreeing attests to the fact that everyone here shouts any dissent down. Its quite incredible how you're too blind to see that.

You fools (yes I am resorting to that because the responses I always get, even from courteous posts, is always complete jackassery) fail to realize that each and everyone of you just shouted the post starter down, and said dumbass things like "Don't play it then". How on earth do you expect people to treat you like adults if your initial response is that of a 5 year old essentially yelling "Nah nah Nee Boo Boo" at the guy critiquing the software.

The reason why the physics still aren't fixed, among other things, is because people just settling for what they have. This is extremely Ironic considering this may be the most interactive forum between the software devs and the buyers. Its like you praise the fact that they interact, but you guys only give praise and shout down constructive criticism. Maybe that's why other software developers don't even bother... Could it be because its the natural tendency of small minds to lean towards this behaviour?

Seriously, I have seen more threads with criticism than my own post count, and every time the person gets shouted down regardless of their approach. And you guys ask *ME* to come in and act civil? Your double standards borderline insanity.

Quote from AndroidXP :

Hey Dethred, want to stir up the old discussion of how the devs make false advertisement with the "players online" count again? Or does anyone in here maybe want to discuss the incredibly-flawed-and-bound-to-fail LFS business model instead? Oh the memories.

()

See, this crap is why I resort to unsavory tactics. Stupidity from others can seriously bother people making perfectly valid points.

Quote from Forbin :

I'll bite...

Sure seems to me like you don't consider it childish to tell people to go kill themselves on at least a couple occaisons. Oddly enough your method of choice is poison.



I'm sure that proves you're the perfect example of a mature adult. illepall

Nothing wrong with posting your opinions (as repetative as they may be), but telling people to go kill themselves because their opinion differs from your own is just plain rude.

Quote from Forbin :

I'll bite...

Sure seems to me like you don't consider it childish to tell people to go kill themselves on at least a couple occaisons. Oddly enough your method of choice is poison.



I'm sure that proves you're the perfect example of a mature adult. illepall

Nothing wrong with posting your opinions (as repetative as they may be), but telling people to go kill themselves because their opinion differs from your own is just plain rude.

Sometimes you have to ask people to spare yourself the agony of trying to get simple facts through their heads. I wasn't telling them to do that because they disagreed, I am telling people to do that when they act like jackasses and say stupid crap like "If you don't like it don't play it". In which I think it would rid the world of vast stupidity. You're 21 years old, feel free to think what you wish, but it'll probably be wrong.illepall