Whom ever this guy is obviously has been here a while to know who S14 is, has made a fake demo account and taken advantage of CheerioDM's generosity to score a free license then went online and used hacks.
Yet still has the audacity to come here and say the forum isn't that bad.
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This thread came in to mind today at work.
Honestly I think racing style is a very personal thing, you can't tell anyone exactly how to do it, just what suits you best.
I'll also note that the whole "bump overtake" technique I described is very seldom used by me in an actual race, more a means to get by the occasional moron we all come across in some public race servers. To be quite honest I thought more people would be inclined to share their techniques rather than argue against the small minority of mine, each to their own I guess.
Honestly I think racing style is a very personal thing, you can't tell anyone exactly how to do it, just what suits you best.
I'll also note that the whole "bump overtake" technique I described is very seldom used by me in an actual race, more a means to get by the occasional moron we all come across in some public race servers. To be quite honest I thought more people would be inclined to share their techniques rather than argue against the small minority of mine, each to their own I guess.
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Here's a replay of my racing for those whom are interested. http://www.mediafire.com/?545akipfzkykud0
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My mistake, I meant excessive late braking.
You think I'm an expert? How sweet <3
Haha you wish silver, I do enjoy our battles on Cargame, you are a worthy adversary. Hence why I race with a respectful attitude towards you.
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The techniques I have listed are not for everyone.
My driving style has evolved into what it is today over many years of racing, if you don't like it well then quite frankly I don't care.
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I don't think that the cost of LFS is the cause of the decline in new users. I think it's a marketing issue.
I don't think that the cost of LFS is the cause of the decline in new users. I think it's a marketing issue.
There is a clear cut difference between someone that is defending their position and someone blatently blocking you from getting passed despite the obvious pace difference.
I don't have the time or the patience to sit behind a slow racer whom is purposly holding me back, while I wait for a opening as the race leader gains a larger gap.
And in regards to your statement about not having a defense against it, that is untrue. By mastering a technique such as this you can anticipate if some one is going to use it on you. move a car width over to the inside just before the braking point or simply let the other person passed, unless you are trolling on a demo server there is no reason to defend heavily against some one much faster than you other than to piss the faster driver off.
Appropriate techniques should be applied at the appropriate time, if you show absolute gentlemen like respect to all other road uses despite of their actions againt you. You will seldom win a race.
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Not if excuted properly, ramming some one off the road is bad form, If some one is clearly being a stubbon prick and slowing down your race I don't see any issue with running them wide to get passed.
The bump pass is not a desperate skill lacking manouver, quiet the oppisate actually. and if you can master this technique both cars will not have damage, no car will be out of the race or on their roof and you will gain a position. with a 1-2 second lead.
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Bad overtaking
Late Braking:
People often make the mistake of excessive late braking to overtake, this never works and it's what I would call bad overtaking, espically when it causes an accident.
Leaving driving line:
You should always maintain a driving line, just because you're going the same speed as the person you are trying to pass, doesn't mean that you can take the corner as the other driver if you are on the oppisate side of the road furthest from the driving line, I often see this happen on demo servers.
Using other cars as walls:
Nothing pisses a proper racer off as much as being used as a wall by another driver trying to get passed.
The big one
Ramming to get passed, there's nothing worse than a noob who tried to ram his/her way past eveyone, if you're going to crash people do it properly and you may learn something,
Match their pace, get up on the rear quarter panel, wait for the right moment to strike, Narrow straight or blind corners.
Get your timing right, then give their rear quarter a nice hard knock with your bumper trying to avoid wheel damage. if all goes well your target will bounce off the wall and take out some of the field behind him, as quickly as you can push N to bring up the name list vote to ban the player you just sent into the rest of the field and claim that he is a crasher. If all goes well he/she will get banned and will feel like painting troll faces on your car, don't do this, painting troll faces on your car is like shooting your self in the foot.
Most will deny this but you can learn a lot of good techniques by mastering your crash skills, I don't recomend this on S2 servers or popular demo servers like Time attack or AMG.
My first 2 years of LFS when I was 14-16 I didn't make money for a good wheel so I spent most of my time mastering crash skills in demo servers,
Good overtaking
Bump pass:
This is a bit cheeky, requires a bit of skill and if executed properly can be considered okay in most cases.
If you have some one infront of you that has a slower pace but a very heavy defense.
Sit behind at about 1-2 car legnths before a corner. don't miss your braking point and keep a small distance under heavy braking, towards the end of the braking point before the corner commences, release your brake slightly as to bump the other driver off their line running them wide as you take the inside.
Cross over pass:
This is a pretty common technique and requires a bit of phycology.
If you see some one lining up to take a dive down the inside, hold your line steady, this will encourage them further. More often than not the other driver will be focused on your car and not the braking point.
In this scenario you should brake as late as possible while maintaing a normal driving line.
Most of the time the other driver will still attempt a dive over take causing them to run wide and open up the inside, casually follow your normal driving line and you will be an additional 1 second or so infront taking advantage of the other drivers over confidance.
Owning the inside:
If you are on the inside of another driver 1/4-1/2 of a car legnth infront then by rights you have ownership of the corner. if the other drivers wishes to then challenge you for the position on the outside, don't feel bad for giving them a little "no chance buddy" bump with your front door.
Risk evaluation:
If you are in the other position as the above, another car is on your inside and 1/4-1/2 car legnth infront, it's in your best interest the majority of the time to brake a bit early and leave room for the other drivers error. More often than not the inside lane driver will expect you to battle the position on the outside and focus some of his/her attention on your car with less on the road, by giving them a little room you are heavily reducing the risk of an accident. and in some cases the Cross over pass technique can be applied.
Intimidation:
In some cases you may come across a driver that is equal to or very close to your pace, in this instance overtaking can be tricky, let them know you want to get passed.
Duck out to the inside before a corner and back behind them, give them a slight bump down a straight, give them the impression that you are insane, a rebel without a cause. sit right up the ass down as much as possible, their attention will be drawn to their mirror. and sooner or later they will make a mistake, whether it be braking late to avoid an accident or simple thinking that "I'd rather let this person passed than my race be ruined"
Note
These views are how I drive, I'm pretty respectful to other drivers on the track, but in some cases when a person is being an obvious dick I don't feel bad about pit manouvering them into a wall.
Late Braking:
People often make the mistake of excessive late braking to overtake, this never works and it's what I would call bad overtaking, espically when it causes an accident.
Leaving driving line:
You should always maintain a driving line, just because you're going the same speed as the person you are trying to pass, doesn't mean that you can take the corner as the other driver if you are on the oppisate side of the road furthest from the driving line, I often see this happen on demo servers.
Using other cars as walls:
Nothing pisses a proper racer off as much as being used as a wall by another driver trying to get passed.
The big one
Ramming to get passed, there's nothing worse than a noob who tried to ram his/her way past eveyone, if you're going to crash people do it properly and you may learn something,
Match their pace, get up on the rear quarter panel, wait for the right moment to strike, Narrow straight or blind corners.
Get your timing right, then give their rear quarter a nice hard knock with your bumper trying to avoid wheel damage. if all goes well your target will bounce off the wall and take out some of the field behind him, as quickly as you can push N to bring up the name list vote to ban the player you just sent into the rest of the field and claim that he is a crasher. If all goes well he/she will get banned and will feel like painting troll faces on your car, don't do this, painting troll faces on your car is like shooting your self in the foot.
Most will deny this but you can learn a lot of good techniques by mastering your crash skills, I don't recomend this on S2 servers or popular demo servers like Time attack or AMG.
My first 2 years of LFS when I was 14-16 I didn't make money for a good wheel so I spent most of my time mastering crash skills in demo servers,
Good overtaking
Bump pass:
This is a bit cheeky, requires a bit of skill and if executed properly can be considered okay in most cases.
If you have some one infront of you that has a slower pace but a very heavy defense.
Sit behind at about 1-2 car legnths before a corner. don't miss your braking point and keep a small distance under heavy braking, towards the end of the braking point before the corner commences, release your brake slightly as to bump the other driver off their line running them wide as you take the inside.
Cross over pass:
This is a pretty common technique and requires a bit of phycology.
If you see some one lining up to take a dive down the inside, hold your line steady, this will encourage them further. More often than not the other driver will be focused on your car and not the braking point.
In this scenario you should brake as late as possible while maintaing a normal driving line.
Most of the time the other driver will still attempt a dive over take causing them to run wide and open up the inside, casually follow your normal driving line and you will be an additional 1 second or so infront taking advantage of the other drivers over confidance.
Owning the inside:
If you are on the inside of another driver 1/4-1/2 of a car legnth infront then by rights you have ownership of the corner. if the other drivers wishes to then challenge you for the position on the outside, don't feel bad for giving them a little "no chance buddy" bump with your front door.
Risk evaluation:
If you are in the other position as the above, another car is on your inside and 1/4-1/2 car legnth infront, it's in your best interest the majority of the time to brake a bit early and leave room for the other drivers error. More often than not the inside lane driver will expect you to battle the position on the outside and focus some of his/her attention on your car with less on the road, by giving them a little room you are heavily reducing the risk of an accident. and in some cases the Cross over pass technique can be applied.
Intimidation:
In some cases you may come across a driver that is equal to or very close to your pace, in this instance overtaking can be tricky, let them know you want to get passed.
Duck out to the inside before a corner and back behind them, give them a slight bump down a straight, give them the impression that you are insane, a rebel without a cause. sit right up the ass down as much as possible, their attention will be drawn to their mirror. and sooner or later they will make a mistake, whether it be braking late to avoid an accident or simple thinking that "I'd rather let this person passed than my race be ruined"
Note
These views are how I drive, I'm pretty respectful to other drivers on the track, but in some cases when a person is being an obvious dick I don't feel bad about pit manouvering them into a wall.
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I know, I'm level 105 now, Some cars I build to look at and never drive, others like the beetle I built for Tag, the 300SL I built for D class racing and the MX-5 superlight for A class are 80% of the time in the top 3
As I said, it's more "fun" than GT5 but it's not as realistic. I'm not a fan boy for either one, My Ps3 with GT5 is parked neatly next to my Xbox 360 which contains Forza 4, I go directly from one to the other.
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Racer X NZ is a good example of what too many bad LSD trips will do to your head.
I was a bit against Forza 4 on it's release, but I've found I've put more than twice the hours into it than I have with GT5.
I must admit though it does seem a bit "rushed" the reason I say that is because it uses the same engine as forza 3, same glitches, basically the same handling only slightly tweaked, a few graphic updates, but really it's just a massive Forza 3 patch.
Maybe it was a Microsoft ego trip "Hey GT5 our old engine is better than your new one"
It's still hard to compare though, Forza has a lot of fun over steer but I think that GT5 is a better driving simulator.
Anyway.
Here's a few cars I have designed.
I mostly just go for a nice clean stance
I must admit though it does seem a bit "rushed" the reason I say that is because it uses the same engine as forza 3, same glitches, basically the same handling only slightly tweaked, a few graphic updates, but really it's just a massive Forza 3 patch.
Maybe it was a Microsoft ego trip "Hey GT5 our old engine is better than your new one"
It's still hard to compare though, Forza has a lot of fun over steer but I think that GT5 is a better driving simulator.
Anyway.
Here's a few cars I have designed.
I mostly just go for a nice clean stance
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