SoftTH is rather touchy when it comes to two monitors. You basically need to trick it into thinking you are running three (and therefore your GPU renders three). Shouldn't be a rpoblem if you are running 4870x2. If you need, I can find my SoftTH setting file from when I did run dual monitors. My second 17" unfortunately broke, so I'm running 1 24" and hopefully getting 3 19" soon.

To your question, it is a dll file (D3D9.dll) and a settings file like softth.cfg or something and you just drop it in the root folder of the game if it is supported, and it should pick it up right away.

You've probably heard this already, but I'll try my best to explain this to people who haven't heard this yet. Hopefully I can help some of you increase your time if you are new to LFS/simming.

This is all physics and dynamics when it comes to increasing your laptime. I am by no means fast at BL1 - i'll break into the high 33s if I'm on a good day (even though I have over 1000 laps on it). The reason why you aren't as fast as WR, even though you feel like you are doing exactly what the WR guy is because you aren't doing what he is doing.

Remember that the line isn't everything. Sure, it'll ensure you get the greatest width from the track. But know that the grip you get is used both horizontally (cornering) and 'vertically' (acceleration). By going the best line, you are only reduce the amount of cornering forces. But if you are not smooth on your acceleration/braking, you are putting more forces on the tires (you are 'jerking' the pedals, causing a sudden acceleration, meaning you are applying a lot more force to the tires), and sure, you have a wider track, but you no longer have enough grip - therefore you understeer.

The way to get around this is by being, yes, smoother on the acceleration pedal/brake pedal. It may feel like you are not slowing down as fast because your brakes are not fully activated until half a second later than usual, but trust me, you will slow down a lot faster, and you will be in control of your car while cornering.


A method I read about is to think about "squeezing" the pedals, rather than steping on them and to also use the ball of your feets rather than your toes. It's really effective, and I use this method not just for driving, but even flying. and it definitely works.

Last edited by GenesisX, Fri 28 Sep 2012, 21:30.

Might have to do with the transient behaviour of the car (ie how its dampers are setup). You should get a setup that works from something like setupgrid and if it still occurs, its unfortunately you.

Either way, it's probably too much grip and you are not getting enough slip angle, and/or your countersteering too much.

I'm out of Toronto too. I'm not sure where all the other servers are located, but AFAIK, never had much lag problems. Ran frequently on BL1 servers, and some drift FE / AutoX servers. There should be some S1 servers running only the XRT, FZ, and AWD car (w/e it's called lol). We should get together sometime and just LAN Party XP

I've been out of the loop for a while now - haven't drifted for maybe a year now and rather busy. But I'll throw you a PM maybe next weekend and maybe we can give each other some pointers.

One thing I'd recommend you doing is picking one car - XRT, a setup, and a track - FE #, and practice. Don't change anything up, except maybe for small map variations and setup variations. PRACTICE!

- Watch how other people do their drifting (YOUTUBE, SERVERS)
- Be gentle and smooth on all your control inputs
- Use the racing line (press 4 in game) to help you choose an ideal line
- Set yourself up for success. Go into a corner at a moderate speed, and at the correct spot with enough tire grip (Tires at an optimum temperature)

Make sure you BIOS boot-up device is set to your 250gb hard drive. Beyond that, I'm quite sure your MBRs would have been dumped over to your new drive, so I don't think there should be any problems there.

It'd be HELPFUL if you could post the error message here. Maybe it could be a corrupted file :S

You need an active DP -> VGA adapter for your display to work. Alternatively, you can use a monitor with DP.

I've seen, however, people using a passive DP adapter (probably what you are doing atm) and running three monitors. However, one thing you need to do is make your resolutions BELOW 1080p. Provided that you use something like 1680 x 1050, you might be able to achieve 3 monitor FOV without an active adapter.

I'll be camping here on my computer waiting for new physics like last year. Man, it's been a year now, and I should've went a long and bought a PS3 and GT5.

Uhhh...

Yeah, Merry Xmas!!! And I'll see ya next year. Or online, if they somehow get new physics made in 13 days.

I still check this forum every 3 days, hoping that we get an update (and the more I do, the more stupid I feel :S). But no. We've heard talks about Scirocco, new physics, and every since I joined, and they say that they are still working on it. Some of you can say that they still care, and are still working on it, but let's be realistic. They're not.

No need for flames. Just want to say this online, (just because everyone has), even though I know it gets nowhere.

Bye

The problem probably lies with your17.3 laptop monitor being 1080p and also 16:9. Even if you do put your monitors sides by side, your 17" secondary will be taller, whilst 17.3 being shorter and wider.

What you might want to do is to set them to have the same vertical resolution. (ie. 17.3 -> 1366 * 768 & 17 -> 1024 * 768) or 1920 * 1080 & 1280 * 1024)

Good Luck

IMO, wouldn't the suspension of the car determine the optimal brake bias?
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I'd probably say increase some front sway bar to decrease the overall oversteering tendency. For XFG, make sure that you have good tyre compounds (ie. Norms front, Hybrids back).

I don't know if you have already fixed this, seeing that you are already racing. But:

1) Check if any applicable power supply is plugged in?
2) Configured, recognized in Control Panel?
3) Configured, recognized in LFS?

Yes. Make sure you install the drivers for the wheel from MS.

Definitely special. I haven't seen anything like it before. A simple Google search did not yield anything for me. Hopefully this can be a bump for this thread so that we can find out quickly.

I disagree. It is still possible with mouse. Many of those people drift using mouse, or stabilized keyboard. I'd be good if you can take maybe even $5 for something with an axis (joystick, gamepad). If you have been racing with a mouse and is used to it, just keep practicing. Catch the tail. Maybe time how long your drift last? And keep fine tuning it. It took me sometime to get it on a ffb wheel. Don't expect to get it the first time on a mouse. Not saying you can't. Just keep at it!

Get a good setup; ask logitek.
Watch drift videos; driftbible is a good place to start. (techniques)
Understand how drifting physically occurs.
Use the race line to guide you.
If you know a track really well, start the drift towards the apex at the speed and position where you would in a regular race. You lose speed.

TBH, with 4 years of racing in LFS, you are really well off. This is really as much insight as I can give you. You probably know more than I do. Just use this to remind you of what you already know.

I am not trolling when I say this. It sounds stupid when you hear it but it is actually true. I had a similar thought actually back in 08' when I first joined LFS about the whole Scirocco thing too. What a coincidence!? I was also in 8th grade =).

But it really does make you think, especially after all these years, that we as individuals have grown so much, learned so much, and yet LFS is.. still... LFS from 2008'...

Don't flame, just saying.

Uhhh... G27? Lol

What are those gauges called? Speedometer, tachometer, a fuel gauge and an engine temperature gauge?

I think these people savage them from the wreckers or from their own cars.

Hahahaha, sounds fishy. Ban him
Lol, i'm just trollin' but seriously, without a doubt, he is cracking.

Well, thanks for the quick reply guys. My question was essentially how the new DAMPER OPTION affect handling. Because damper is really equal to rebound and bound/2, if I increase damper, I will essentially be increasing both rebound and bound. If I want oversteer during braking, [or understeer when I release the brakes], how should I approach this using the whole damper option?

This is during the downhill portion of BL1 (Sector 3 - T1) (T5 if you look at the whole track).

I remember Tristan, or someone, showed me an equation for dampers to spring stiffness so that the dampers work effectively to dampen out spring oscillation. Would you guys happen to know what that was? I can't find that thread...

Unless somehow you have achieved to install the 3 OS into one big FAT32 partition, you can just format those Windows partitions of which OS you want to install. Installing Windows takes like 10 Minutes =S. YOu won't lose your other ones. If you would just go on Google and search for like 0.0001s, you would find this... http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:installxp

Go to the bottom and have the program do the modifications for you. Just have the files extracted from the CD. Then have the direct the program to the dir of your files.

You may want to double check WinSetupFromUSB. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that only puts the installation files onto a USB stick for installation (for people who do not have a CD/DVD Drive).

First of all, I know this is kind of grave digging a 5 year old thread. But I think it is senseless to create a new thread just for one question.

WRT to the demo road - cars without bound and rebound options, how would the whole DAMPERS option affect handling? For me, I am running an XFG that really oversteers when I take my brake off the break pedal. (or understeers during braking; however you look at it). What should I do to the dampers? I read that I should + F Rebound or - R Bound. How would dampers (which should = Rebound or Bound / 2) affect this?

[my apologies if this is not applicable to the new SoftTH, but for the old V1.08-09]:

Sorry, I just doubled checked your SoftTH resolutions and they are not even tri monitor resolutions. Aren't they supposed to be something like 1366 + 2*1280 = 3926 px wide?

You aren't even running SoftTH settings in the game. SoftTH is supposed to emulate a three monitor setup, whether you have it or not. You render three, but for you, you run two.

For LFS, given that you are running a 5 Series Radeon card is that you probably can run it in EyeFinity. Go into your catalyst driver, click on Display & Monitors (or something), click on the downwards arrow thing on the top right hand corner of a monitor, and click CREATE GROUP. From there, just follow instructions. Then in LFS, just reconfigure it to run 2 screens, (one main, one auxiliary)

I'm not sure about Ubuntu, as Linux is totally out of my ballpark. But I can say for Windows, well XP anyways [hopefully this is still applicable], that during boot up, Windows supposedly reinitializes the USB driver. The problem is that you are running off USB. What may happen is that you are half way between boot up and you suddenly get a blue screen, or something. You may still get on using safe-mode, and it doesn't really re-load all the drivers, but.. who really wants to run their PC on safe-mode?

I can speak for XP, is that you may need to repack the drivers. You basically go into you installation disk, extract the various drivers, and slightly modify them. Once you are done, you basically create a new installation, image of the disk, and re-burn. You should check online for Windows 7.

But truly, I'd go and check out some tutorials before posting. IMO, you'll learn a lot faster that way.

I kinda just finished writing this, and saw MadCat's comment. Yes, that is true. Just go online and type something like "WIndows 7 on External HD", or something. Good luck

I think servers can already restrict setups. I've seen them being used in Kart servers running MRT. I think that having those is the funnest way to run races. Sure, there should still be servers that have no restrictions on setup, but not needing to think that I lost b/c of the setup, and trying to beg fellow racers for them and focusing directly on driving style and etiquette... that's just cool.

Not necessarily to the point of totally restricting the exact setup. Changing tire pressure, tyre compound, and maybe a small range of realistic camber would be great. Like spec-races, if I'm not mistaken.

The type of limited racing styles that is already implemented in LFS via limited car choices makes it better than some of the other competitors out there. But again, those games aren't selling to the same audience as LFS.