good idea hazaky... but did you not notice that he is running in a window? that screws up the measurement of the fps, because, he is not running it at full resolution.

if you wanted to give advice to make it easy for his machine, there are two things that you can do,

increase minimum sleep and enable the fps limiter at around 30-40

anyway

just out of curiosity, why are you saying "assuming that you have a 60Hz monitor" ?

how is it different if the monitor is a 75 Hz, 85 100 or 120Hz?

hmmm

i hoped i could help you... but it seems i haven't got another suggestion for you yet

WELCOME!

also, try cleaning it.

if you are good at it and not scared unscrew the heatsink, check the fan is working, make sure everything is clean, apply a tiny bit of thermal paste wherever the heatsink touches any chip and screw it back on.

be careful

thanks for your replies guys...

yes, because you turn into your existing turn to stop it

it does the opposite of what your intuition tells you it will do

anyway the mechanics of a two wheel vehicle are quite complicated...

Quote from HVS5b :

Toyo T1R's from Camskill

very good tyres BUT they wear down fast for road use as an 'affordable' tyre.

that's what i am going to be buying for my twingo though

i prefer to spend more on tyres and less on other things, if i have to make a choice.

Quote from JJ72 :

It's not used, it was merely moved with it's own power.

ok then... with your own logic
you go to buy a car. a new car.

you look at the odometer and let's just say that it is correct and not zeroed

you see 1 mile. do you buy it?
you see 10 miles. do you buy it?
you see 100 miles. do you buy it?

now you can answer your own question "when is it brand new".

personally i think anything above 1mile is suspect because the car does not need to be driven that much to go from the factory floor, round the back, on the transporter, and off the transporter to the dealership.

i also see some motorbikes at that dealership. bmw r1200gs. i see the exhaust and it has become BLACK near the cylinder. and they sell it as new?? how harshly must it have been driven already so that the exhaust has been discolored this much?!? my father's gn250 was driven for 10 years... 10 years it was driven by a 110kg guy with his gear and baggage on open and twisty mountain roads... and the exhaust was as clear as new (it even had some of its initial shininess).

Quote from tristancliffe :

They won't let you drive it off the transporter, as you won't have the required insurance. The fact that it won't reach full temperature won't matter in the slightest.

not a very convincing argument since it won't be on public road but on private area, the dealership garage... but anyway let's not get involved on this

Quote from tristancliffe :

To run the engine in you need to use all the gears, at varying engine speeds, at varying throttle openings - including full throttle and high revs (once warm), but without letting the engine labour in too high a gear at too low a road speed. Once you have done several hundred miles like this (ideally) then you should change the oil and filter.

i've read these:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm

http://motorcycles.suite101.co ... ngine_breakin_controversy

Quote from tristancliffe :

But don't worry about the odd bit of running beforehand, as it really won't make any difference.

an engineer (mechanical engineer) friend of mine who i respect a lot (i mean a real lot) as far as competence and knowledge (he completely stripped down and rebuilt a 250cc 16v watercooled bike engine on his own, in his home and the engine started immediately. i'm just giving an example.) said that it is not really good to do that to an engine. turn it on, drive a few meters, turn it off.

Last edited by george_tsiros, Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:42.

Quote from Dajmin :

Until you have the keys, they can pretty much do what they like with it. I very much doubt they'll go round thrashing the crap out of it though. They're just moving it from one place to the other. It's not like it'll even do motorway miles or anything - it'll be small journeys from factory to transport to storage.

uh

i am pretty pretty sure they can not do "pretty much what they like with it", because at some point...1 mile? 10 miles? 20 miles? it objectively loses the status of "new car" and starts being called "used". there has to be some kind of limit on paper otherwise they can just use it as they like for as long as they like, go do whatever and then give it to me with 100 miles on the clock. or 1000 miles.

the lancia my family bought in 1996 was DRIVEN from athens to my home town, about 80km.

i was expecting to come of as paranoid and i understand why i give this impression

but still

the question stands... do they have right to drive it since it is not theirs? their job is to transport it, not drive it.

best i can hope for is that they let me take it off the truck myself and let it at least reach operating temperature before being turned off.

that's what i read about what one should do on the first time the engine is turned on

then lively driving with medium-high load across all gears in medium-high revs (away from both idling and limiter revs)

then cooldown, oil change, filter change

then lively driving again...

i'm quite excited about all this

and it's just a silly little car

hey look
i'm on a sig

is that good?

anyway... guinness draught for me.

and when i'm out of guinness...
... i go to the store to get more guinness.

i'm getting a renault twingo, new, with a turbocharged 1150cc engine.

has my twingo engine worked before i get it from the dealer? i mean, at the factory? a friend of mine says they work it for ten minutes at the rev limiter.

i highly doubt that.

the dealership says that to get it off of the truck that carries it, they will have to turn the engine on. can't they just, you know, roll it off?

do they have the right to do that? who can tell me that they won't rev it like an idiot or that he won't mistreat the starter motor? i've seen ridiculous things here in greece and i am very scared. many people here still have the idea that before you turn the engine off you have to rev it (that was merely an example of idiocy i've encountered).

my previous car was driven from Athens to my home town... someone actually drove it for about 50 miles.

i do not want that to happen again. at all.

tl;dr: i want to be the first to turn on the engine, not anyone else.

which fits with the word 'countersteering' just fine.

how about... you spend less on smokes, booze, coffee, fast food

... and spend those additional 100euros or whatever, once a year, to buy better rubber.

how's it sound?

try to toy around with double/triple buffering

no problems here.

can't check multimonitor features.

get better HS/fans if you want silence

a thermalright tru(e) and a couple noctuas at 600rpm are your friend.

Quote from tristancliffe :

It's a double edged sword - good tyres give you more grip in an accident/emergency (unless the accident/emergency is caused by tyre failure ), but it also means that you are more likely to be going faster when the accident/emergency occurs.

the first is not in the driver's control, it is determined by the tyres.

the second, is. the driver is responsible to keep the car under control. if they drive too fast that is not the tyres' problem. it's the driver's.

in short it is not a double edged sword.

you are buying the quality of contact with the road. get good tyres.

thank you Tristan

and those are some very inappropriate images.

hey tristan dude

i have this lingering question.

driving your single seater can you give a 'score' of some sort... how close is, say, the fbm or the fox simulation compared to the real thing?

i mean... do the cars behave similarly?

because from what i've seen, the xfg (with appropriate intake restrictions, weight and suspension settings) and my lancia are pretty close as far as behaviour is concerned.

Quote from Mazz4200 :

Perhaps it's just a Northern thing. The only other official track up here is this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... k4l0A&feature=related (yes it's a real track : no it's not speeded up, and yes, these guys are seriously seriously mental.) No nancy boy Southern softy circuits for us yunno

no they're just "bikers"
you will usually encounter them out in the open after the rain, like mushrooms and snails!

also notice at about 1:00 someone going for a wee

:woohoo:

Great!!!

you'll have to wait for me.

i haven't eaten anything, so i can't barf yet.

must've meant centimeters.

"συγγνώμη, δεν μιλάω αγγλικά"