F1 are at midhigh to high downforce for almost all tracks. The only exception nowadays is Monza.
Read BWX232's post, Cue-Ball. That's why people want evened out cars. 
A screenshot with a couple of all three GTRs or all three TBOs just looks so much nicer than a single make shot.
A screenshot with a couple of all three GTRs or all three TBOs just looks so much nicer than a single make shot.There's a bit more to look at, imho. Take cornering speeds in general: the FZR is about 5kph faster in the turns in AS North. This might be because it can run more downforce or maybe also due to things like trackwidth, wheelbase, tiresize and most importantly centre of gravity.
Weight and power aren't the only things to look at.
Weight and power aren't the only things to look at.
You gotta stop thinking "depends on the driver" and start thinking "driver with the same ability in different cars".
No n00b in an FXO or FZR will beat Rudi or Nils or Biggie in a XRR or RB4. But would Nils in a XRT have a chance against Rudi in an FXO (both being their favorite cars when performance is not counted)? Hell no. Simply because the FXO is a ****load quicker. Same goes for XRR vs. FZR.
No n00b in an FXO or FZR will beat Rudi or Nils or Biggie in a XRR or RB4. But would Nils in a XRT have a chance against Rudi in an FXO (both being their favorite cars when performance is not counted)? Hell no. Simply because the FXO is a ****load quicker. Same goes for XRR vs. FZR.
Is that really important? Can you only like people that are of the same nationality as you are? I mean, I understand supporting "your team" in team sports as soccer. But in a sport where no such thing as a national competition exists (apart from the A1GP which is...well, just another racing series), where is the need for that?
Not quite. I just don't like being supposed to have an opinion and being supposed to have done something which I have neither. And I do take the freedom to speak up against this.
Just take a look at it. It's worth it. We all saw it at one time or another and we all got our biased opinion about it. So at times it is quite useful to read other opinions. That might lead to having a different thought about it. No need to change your opinion, just overthink it.
Read my posts again in this thread. I have not once commented on your opinion on MSC until you suggested I would be attacking your opinion because you disliked MSC. That is simply not true. I reacted to your opinion about JPM and KR at first and then simply made a little fun of the rest, which, agreed, includes the MSC part. However, that was the least bit of it and it was included in a generelization and not specially picked out. I didn't do so for a reason: I didn't even want to get into it, especially not with an Englishman. Simply because I do know that English and German f1 followers have different points of view on the Adelaide 94 incident. I could have picked out any other opinion of yours in your first post in this thread simply because they all lack proper thinking and analysis.
On the Adelaide 94 topic, I'd suggest reading the Atlas F1 Court btw which is the most unbiased discussion you can get on it.
Show me one tiny little bit where I have said anything that makes you think so. Oh wait. You won't be able to because I never have. I dont give a shit about what you think about MSC.
Button had Prost as teammate? When he was 13 and driving karts? Did Prost drive some kart races during his 93 championship run which was his last racing in Formula 1? Btw. JB's rookie year was at Williams against Ralf Schumacher who didn't quite trash him
Thank you, Becky, this shows how little you know about F1 and how anyone should just avoid your posts.
Anyone hits the curbs as hard as Raikkonen does. Just take a look at Alonso last year in Magny Cours for example, at times he was in the air with all four wheels. Nowadays, the only time you overdrive your car is if you put it in the wall. Everything else the cars can take. The times when drivers broke their cars by overreving or other "wrong" driving have been over for quite some time. This is what every mechanic, engineer, driver and team boss in F1 will tell you.
Right. I guess you dont drive slower when your tires are cold fresh out of the pits in LFS than you do with them at optimum temp, do you? God should have given you a brain. Try to use it at times.
Thank you, Becky, this shows how little you know about F1 and how anyone should just avoid your posts.
Anyone hits the curbs as hard as Raikkonen does. Just take a look at Alonso last year in Magny Cours for example, at times he was in the air with all four wheels. Nowadays, the only time you overdrive your car is if you put it in the wall. Everything else the cars can take. The times when drivers broke their cars by overreving or other "wrong" driving have been over for quite some time. This is what every mechanic, engineer, driver and team boss in F1 will tell you.
Right. I guess you dont drive slower when your tires are cold fresh out of the pits in LFS than you do with them at optimum temp, do you? God should have given you a brain. Try to use it at times.
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I just fell off my chair laughing about that statement. If JPM is better than KR then how come KR has beaten JPM 5:1 this season? How come he makes it to the top10 quali every time and JPM does not? How come he finishes races and JPM does not?
In fact, I fell off the chair a second time reading your statements on the other drivers as well.
Originally, Ferrari was part of the GPMA.
Other than that: more rule changes in the 21st century have been made against Ferrari than in favor: new points scheme, new qualifying system in 2003, no tire change in 2005. Every time these changes came after a dominant Ferrari season and every time Ferrari struggled to adjust. And these changes were done by the FIA.
Rofl. Seldom I have read funnier bullshit. F1 is a racing series organized and run by the FIA. The FIA is a club, a non-commercial organization that cannot be sold or bought. Noone owns a stake in the FIA because there is no stakes to own. So the FIA can neither be floated nor sold nor bought.
The part that can be owned is the Formula One Administration Ltd. (FOA) and the Formula One Management Ltd. (FOM). They are owned in part by Ecclestone's wife and different banks and they are controlled by Bernie. Again, no Ferrari in this part.
Ferrari used to (or still does, not sure) own a stake in the GPWC, the breakaway series that the manufacturers (Mercedes, BMW, Honda, Toyota, Renault and earlier Ferrari) used to plan. That is not associated with F1 or the FIA in any other way that the members of the GPWC participate in the F1.
If you want to make up conspiracy theories, try to get your facts straight. Otherwise the potential for self-ridiculing is quite high.
Less camber on the driven axle means better traction. Easy as that.
If you had taken a closer look, you'd have seen the number of pitstops. The relevant numbers are that of the 2nd and 6th placed FZR: as little as the best XRR did. I know of the 2nd place FZR that while they did take fresh tires every time (R2s, mind you), they also ran a full tank each time. The XRR might be capable of running longer on one tank, but R2s afaik don't last the full tank on the XRR and R3s might last, but are another second slower than the R2s. So even if you ran the full tank, you'd be beaten on that distance by a one-stopping FZR.
Another stat: In MoE we had a whopping 3 or 4 FZRs, 3 FXRs iirc and the rest was XRRs. Now after the patch we got a signup of 26 cars so far, 2 FXRs (no real change), 4 XRRs (one is in doubt due to a driver injury) and the rest is FZRs. The XRR in doubt and one of the FXRs was only entered because I specifically asked that team to enter an XRR for comparison reasons because I knew they had some of the fastest XRR drivers out there. They were so kind to also enter an FXR.
I bet the 4 XRRs will have a hard time qualifying on the first grid for the 4h and that is not the way it should be. Period.
Might be that way in the odd public race. In real competition, it doesn't stand a chance.
Correct. And that is quite a nice feat, actually. But right now, we have the FXO in TBO and the FZR in GTR that are the best car on all tracks under all circumstances. And that is what is wrong with the balancing and what should be changed. I'd like to see classes where Car 1 is better on track A, yet Car 2 is better on Track B.
F1 has always been about which team can bend (pun intended) the rules the best way without getting caught by scrutineering.
That was the case with the Brabham car mentioned in your link, with the lead in the tank used by Tyrell (okay, that was a pretty dumb try), the wonderbrake by McLaren in 1998 or most recently Renault's launch control which was linked to the jumpstart-control frequencies in 2003 (or was it 2002?), the too wide Michelin tires in 2003 and the double tank used by BAR last year.
Last year, Ferrari was not once accused of cheating. Why? Because they didn't perform. As soon as they start performing again it's the old "nasty Ferrari, they got the FIA in their boat and who can't see that must be blind" routine again. For a Ferrari fan, that is a good thing. It shows that they are a force to be reckoned with again.
That was the case with the Brabham car mentioned in your link, with the lead in the tank used by Tyrell (okay, that was a pretty dumb try
), the wonderbrake by McLaren in 1998 or most recently Renault's launch control which was linked to the jumpstart-control frequencies in 2003 (or was it 2002?), the too wide Michelin tires in 2003 and the double tank used by BAR last year.Last year, Ferrari was not once accused of cheating. Why? Because they didn't perform. As soon as they start performing again it's the old "nasty Ferrari, they got the FIA in their boat and who can't see that must be blind" routine again. For a Ferrari fan, that is a good thing. It shows that they are a force to be reckoned with again.
The wankel patent must have run out years ago, patents are only valid for a couple of years. The engine system is now how old? 40 years? I don't think there is a trademark on Wankel, but I might be wrong there and copyright...hardly.
It would also have that turbo that SCAVIER love so much. Then throw in a Jaguar XJR-9 for a V12 and a Sauber C 9 for a B8 and you'd even have different engines in the class. Or just keep it to one chassis and engine for great balance and great experience.
A Group C or LMP1 (preferably GTP) and ~30-35 clients per Server and Masters of Endurance would be in heaven. 
Prototype class and GTR class at the 24h of Aston. Uh, that would so be a dream come true.
Prototype class and GTR class at the 24h of Aston. Uh, that would so be a dream come true.
ESL has LFS. From then on it was only a logical step. How the ESL Pro Series adopted LFS a couple of years ago is another story for another night.
deggis: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=110089#post110089
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=110200#post110200
What more do you need to know?
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=110200#post110200
What more do you need to know?
That in itself isn't respecting the other driver, is it?
So no need to argue any further. Okay, misunderstanding then. I thought you meant "I'm inside, I can choose any line I want because I have right of way". Right to a clean pass: yes, all for it.
If that is what your racing etiquette books say, they are shit. There is no such thing as right of way, there is only respect for the other and the dire need to negotiate the track without running into each other. Therefore: if you are running through a turn with 2 cars next to each other, both cars need to respect the fact that another car is there. This especially comes true for your T1 occurence: both of you should have respected each other and carried on with slightly less speed than usual and I am sure both of you would have made it safely through the turn.
This does involve not trying to pass where it makes a pass totally unsafe which opening a third line in a turn would be the case.
This does involve not trying to pass where it makes a pass totally unsafe which opening a third line in a turn would be the case.
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