It's European cause it's featured in F1? That logic sounds pretty steep for me at this point. Look at those turns and braking points. Feels like an american Bahrain to me. It's really nothing like a European track.

A competitor to AC as GRID? I'd call that a harsh statement. It's still something I'd expect to be closer to Shift than AC or any other simulator.

Well, if you need a GUI, simple coding I'd rather suggest C#. Knowing a bit of C will get you going in short term. Pretty easy to use Visual Studio, and as you know some sort of programming, it shouldn't be hard to get started.

There is a market for simulators, but an even bigger for those simcade games. This is a lot better selling genre than our beloved, and after all they are living off money and producing these games a lot more often than simulators are even patched. Building a simulator for this community is not a simple "code and release". Codemaster games' life cycles are at most 3 patches long, then are left in the oblivion for players to abuse. Simulators need fine tuning all over its life cycle, which is a far bigger commitment than releasing a mass production with non-Newtonlike physics and enjoy the income. It's also a 3 platform game, which would make it somewhere around impossible to deadly to implement. Why can't you accept that there is a lot wider market for these racing games amongst the casual players, and we are the niche marketed group for the simulators and we shouldn't bash these games, rather enjoy our options.

You guys are suggesting JAVA and Javascript to the dude. Do you want to send him to hell or something? I'm not sure why a simple Excel sheet is not fancy enough for your needs, especially when you are not that familiar with programming languages, and at this point you don't really know the concept. Even if you decide to surrender yourself to shaman, first do an Excel sheet to sum all those formulas, that will make your job a lot easier.

I only had time to try the newly bought Z4 yesterday around COTA, but today I'm continuing my tour around the comboes. I see that Star Mazda got an update for the tires, which was just about time. I guess that will boost the participation back to where it was years ago, might make it my main series to begin with. Originally I was planning for a RUF Cup full-out attendance, now I also have to check that car out though as it got changed. I simply don't like COTA, but I expected that from the very beginning. All of the turns have like 9 ideal lines and impossible steering angles, blind braking points. It's just not my style of motorsports racing. It's just too American for me, but that's a problem for me and not the developers. The track is well-done, the graphics are nice and the details look fantastic. That's a great job on both the car and the track.

Btw, don't even try to compare RUF Track and Z4 in driving experience, they aren't even remotely related, other than being in the same series.

Thanks for the link. Damn, i can't wait for it I wasn't excited for a while over a patch, like that.

I'd rather call RUF Cup or Skippy the best racing in iR, but I guess it's matter of taste. I tried top split GT3 races, and they didn't seem THAT good. Well, it was Zandvoort, but still. I had hella lot of fun in RUF Cup @ Zandvoort.

Your car has brakes. You don't necessarily have to flat out and collect every 4x you possibly could on the track, if an incident happens in front of you.

Yeah, that is a decent time in there. I think James' PB is 59.3 in race. That was without draft.

So I shouldn't care at all about my iRating and SR cause I can drive anything I want at top splits? Hmm.. that's actually not a bad idea Sure makes races less stressful.

Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :

You guys worry too much about SR... just drive n have fun.

That's a good option aswell, of course not until you reached your goal. From then on only iRating matters.

I'm not sure why people are raging at the MX5 so much. It's fairly drivable inside a tight court, which means you shouldn't expect LFS slip angles with a car that has half the steering lock of any LFS cars out there. Don't expect to correct slides with your limp cock, you actually have to improve your reaction time to catch those nasty slides, but driving in a way that those won't happen ensures you are fast too, and not only keeping it on the grey stuff. I think MX5 is a great car, even for rookies. It teaches them how to keep a car on the road, how to not overdrive cars (none of those iR cars tolerate it anyway) and it brings great racecraft on top splits. You can literally touch other cars, cause there is no velocity, therefore you only get 0x after slight touches.

About the ratings, I agree with Deko, it doesn't take more than a few days to get A class, and feels easy to maintain a good ammount of it. If you are seemingly losing SR, then just go back to MX5, drive a few clean races, which are quite simple, and gain SR. It also feels like free iRating after the RUF Cup main SOF races.
If you have difficulties reaching a certain Safety Rating, that probably means you belong there. Reacting to what happens around you is part of the racing, not going off the track aswell. C 4.0 to get GT3 is a piece of cake. Participating in GT3 wreckage is not, and I didn't even see non-top splits yet but they still turn into wreck fests. I rather stay in the CSpec, which is less mainstream, but at least all the drivers are enthusiastic and good at racecraft and almost on-pace. I also enjoy the car a lot more than GT3.

Sent a PM. Thanks a lot for the effort in advance

Still looking for someone that would be kind to convert a skin from FZR to RUF I have the psd of the original skin, so I guess it would be easier.

Quote from anttt69 :

Can some nice person post up the current schedule. Thank you

The current schedule only lasts for a week or so. Season 2 schedule would be more useful at this point.


EDIT:
There was a topic in Rookie forums, with people blaming the MX5 and the conclusion was that it pretty much handles right in most cases. The only difference would be the lack of "ass" feel and the small POV being unreflective of slides and people feeling slides having smaller angles than the actual angles. I never had problem with the MX5 or any other cars. The Formula Mazda sure needs an updated tire model to sort out some of the weird slides, but it's not what I'd call undrivable. Not being able to handle a car around the track, while thousands of people are completely fine with it, then blaming the simulator after giving up is not into my mindset.

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Quote from Rappa Z :

But seemingly always on tracks that you don't own. Meanwhile, the tracks you buy seem to always be raced in a season for a car you don't own. The double ****over is the fact that almost any track you buy now will probably be off 90% of the schedules in a year because of the new tracks that have been introduced.

I only bought 13 tracks or so recently, which is just enough for a whole season (current season), and as the new Season 2 schedule got released, I got to say that PMD plus my subjective touch has a pretty good estimination of buying tracks. Running through the all of the series I'm interested in, I'm only missing 1-2 tracks and in any potential interested series I'm only missing 4 at max, which means I could probably run a full season in any given series that bothers my mind. I already bought COTA in my mind, which would reduce the 1-2 to 1 and 4 to only 3, as it gets featured in every single series, nearly. It's more about which tracks you get. I seem to have chosen perfectly. It's not forbidden to check all of the schedules when you decide to buy a track.

Yup, I already got the credits sent to my email. Thanks a lot dude


Question time for me:
I'm pretty new to iR, but how do tracks get released? I would like to get COTA and Z4 when they are released, but can I pre-order them? I don't want to miss out on the bulk discount, due to needing a track for this season.

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Also, is anybody experienced with skinning in iRacing can help me? I just can't seem to convert an LFS skin into a RUF skin properly. I'd really apperciate some help regards that.

Last edited by Kristi, Thu, 10 Apr 2014 06:40.

Sent a PM.

Quote from sil3ntwar :

iRacing good for a casual player? Used to love LFS for its pick up and play online racing but this is now dead.

Only interested in open wheelers and prototypes and need something to do until Assetto Corsa get multiplayer.

Looks like the best deal for me is 3 months for $12.

Are there always races to join? Or am I going to be sitting around twiddling me thumbs because everyone else in the world is asleep?

iRacing has a pretty large Australian player base, and of cousre they would be awake when you are. Racing around the clock is something you get used to easily. If you want races that have competition at any given time, I suggest Skip Barber. It's easy to reach, always large participation (at least in EU and US, I really am not awake when AU races). Star Mazda would be an option, but at this point it's pretty much dead for every region. Let's hope they give it an NTM5 by Season 2. It will probably be in the top 3 most popular series after that.

Dennis summed it up right, so this should be [/arguement] at this point. Having nearly the same conditions on every race car is what makes racing, and not disabling some aids like TC or ABS. They won't drive your car without making the right inputs, you can still build up seconds of differences over a lap even if you have those aids turned on. Adjusting your driving to suit them is what makes you a racer, and not plain disabling.

Damn, it looks like it's not even worth joking about S3 being released. It was great a few years ago, I guess nobody would eat that nowadays I miss those times though.

Quote from DANIEL-CRO :

This game is one huge bug.

Start race crashes LFS, end race crashes LFS
Start race and this UAC thing for running .exe appear.
WIN+D to desktop, mouse is locked to middle of screen, great

English please that we might understand? From what I understood though (which still makes no sense), you are generating problems nobody ever had.

They built something non-ordinary which seemed to work and attract a lot of people. Then they broke it. Great marketing!

Quote from tristancliffe :

I don't have time to learn the cars and tracks enough to be quick online. I don't care for the selfish attitude of online racers (restart now, revenge wrecks, setup exploits), and I certainly don't have time to do leagues. I've won enough league races in my time, and don't need more accolades. I just want to fire up when I have a spare hour (between real racing cars and bed time) to enjoy a scamper around a track on my terms. AI can provide that, online generally can't.

Um, I smell some contradiction in that post, quite a big one even. You are calling online simracers selfish, yet you would happily take the chance away from the majority of the community, because you can't be assed to join a server and have fun. Sounds logical to me indeed.

I'm sure there will be pickup races like CTRA in LFS, and at that point, nobody cares if you are 1st or 15th. You have a place to go door to door with actual humans. Of course it feels good to win something, but hey you learn from your own mistakes, right?


@DeKo, just wait for the next update. It will have a few optimization changes promised. That video linked on the other page seems to be pretty neat at that point.