Quote from bunder9999 :

what could top this sound?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9O8lNQo3Bs

BRM V16!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE

When I registered I wanted a serious name, but accidentally I put in lococost instead of cocolost... Now I'm scarred for life! I think a prosecution is in order here!

Last edited by lococost, Fri 28 Aug 2009, 12:16.

Quote from Bob Smith :

Agreed. +100

why +100 and not +99?
I think this is a good opportunity to point out the silliness of placing so much significance on specific, round values of measure.

Grats Failure, you're nuts and we like it!

Hey guys, you can choose the combo's yourselfs!

The only thing you have to do is get the most points this month and next month the choice is yours!

btw, we allready did bl and fe rx a couple of month ago, where were you then?

Your spelling makes me proud to be a Blegian!

Won't make it tonight, "too hot", says my gfx card.
Yes, I told you i would get rid of it, but bought another car for the misses (well, part of it), so had to review the budget.
Have fun though, might pop in for a quick hello

Quote from Rudy van Buren :

ive had that aswell ones, my gloves were grass and the road wass all curbstone car skins were tree's etc

And weed is legal in Holland

Quote from Sueycide_FD :

Sueycide_FD won the comp. you all can go home now.

Does that mean you're second?

Quote from kamo2000 :

Well as for me nothing to say..maybe to show...

http://kamo.4ignition.com/lfs/lx.wmv

I know you shouldn't laugh at other peoples mysery, but LOOOOOL!!! Best sound FX ever!

rlly don't like the track, asked for rev, but troy read over it, shit happens, np.
Feeling pretty sick anyway so as i wasnt having any fun thought it was better to quit.

Had an unexpected lucky tow in quali which put me on pole.

First race was good, kamo got in front of me at the start and I had a feeling I was faster every lap exiting the first turn, finally got beside him and tried to overtake him, trying to just give him enough room to stay outside, sadly it didn't work, kamo spun, i finished first.


Next race was good fun making my way to the front, Kamo was just a bit too fast to get a 2nd place.

3rd race, in lap 1 a lost tire was spinning somewhere in turn 2, with traffic everywhere I had no chance of avoiding it, damage looked ok, but the car hit the ground here and there and I found out a chassis doesnt have as much grip as a tyre does in lap 2 turn 1 where I couln't turn in and just smashed it in the wall. race over. At least it was no ones fault. I don't know about others, but for me the level of racing was much better then last race, although this track is way more prone to noob mistakes, it was fun.

Looking forward to the next one, It would be nice if it had a bit fewer laps so the tires don't get the chance to overheat.

practicing 6 days before the event allready, that's sick (you like the track btw kamo?)

And troy, you gave away my secret weapon, the set! Nevermind, it's all in the spirit of your league. enjoy!

first race was ok, I saw speedway drift all over the place, but still he kept his times up, no chance to pass him as I was just as fast.

But then second race, had a nice first few laps, running through the field, then one of those 'gray names' that come in just before the race and have no respect for anything took me out, after that he crashed very hard taking me out yet again. At least this gave me pole in the long race. I knew troy was going to step up sometime, on the first 180 troy was on the outside on braking, I never expected him to be on the outside when I turned in, wheels touched, i spin, race over really... I never really had the intention to block troy hard, it would have cost me more places if i did. Would have been second otherwise i think.

It's pretty annoying, the only LFS i do anymore are the lx races, (let's be honest, the public racing with these new automated servers really sucks.) And then to have 2 out of 3 of these only races go wrong is pretty demotivating. We'll see in a week if I can get my spirit up again.

thnx blackout!

hehe troy, I hadn't even realised the first 2 were lx4. If it were up to me all combos would have been lx6 anyway .

Quote from oldnavy :

whats the difrence now? i think only name changed thats all

CR is concept racing, a well known existing LFS team.

So, the difference is, he might not have nicked the UVC name. He sure did with CR!

grats kamo! You gave troy a run for his money!

Not that it really matters, but I'm listed twice in the final standings.

sign me up!

I have a E36 328i. It does 0-100kph in 7.2s. So, looking at madmats data, that seems pretty much spot on. It's fast, as in a fast cruizer, for me it's a good family car. it won't blow you away, but you'll have enough power to never get annoyed.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Tyres behave differently at road speeds (even fast road speeds).

In racing - lower pressures = more grip
On road (and track days, unless you are REALLY pushing it) - lower pressures = less grip.

Same with temperatures.

Also, the construction of race tyres is quite different to a road or performance tyre, and this changes how it behaves too.

The article is about toyo R888s, a road legal semi slick tyre. I'd call it a race tyre, as it is used in several racing classes, but that's open to discussion I guess. The third line of the article also states that the advise is also applicable for racing.

I find the logics LFS uses in its tyre temperature model, well.. logic, but I'm guessing it's not as black and white as LFS makes us to believe. I'm not interested in flaming LFS for this, I am however thinking about doing some real life club racing and I'ld like to seperate facts from BS. (And there's a lot of BS out there )

Hello,


I found an article by someone who should know his stuff, it's something I've read by 'real' racers too: Increased tyre pressure gives increased tire temperature, the opposite of what happens in LFS. Please read the full article below before making up your mind.

Quote :

"My name is Alan Meaker, I am the Motorsport Manager for Toyo Tyres (UK) Ltd.

I was at Rockingham on the Saturday 1ST March at the LOT trackday and worked with a couple of cars using our R888 tyre regarding pressures and tread temperatures.

What I would like to do is to offer some advice on tyre temperatures and pressures and how to achieve the best from our tyres when taking part in either trackdays or racing.

The R888 has a semi race construction (very stiff) and a race tread compound. The optimum tread temperature range is between 85C and 95C measured using a probe type pyrometer, and ideally a maximum difference across the tread of 9C. The maximum hot pressure we recommend is 40psi. Camber angles up to 5 degrees are permissible but the final setting will depend on tread temperatures. It is advisable to have as much positive castor as practical as castor induces a beneficial camber change during cornering. I recommend that the tyres be put through 2 heat cycles before hard use.


The pressures you use will initially depend on the weight of the car, too little pressure on a heavy car can lead to over deflection of the tyre and subsequent failure.

Below are some basic settings:

VEHICLE WEIGHT COLD PRESSURE HOT PRESSURE
Very Light < 800kg 17 - 22 psi 22 - 29 psi
Light 800kg - 1000kg 20 - 26 psi 24 - 32 psi
Heavy 1000kg - 1400kg 23 - 27 psi 28 - 40 psi
Very Heavy > 1400kg 27 - 35 psi 37 - 40 psi


As a tyre gets hotter the pressure increases, this is due to the moisture in the air. The cold pressure you set to achieve a desired hot pressure will depend on the conditions on the day i.e. ambient and track temperature, wet or dry. If the day/track is cold you will need to start with a higher cold pressure as the tyre will not get as hot therefore the pressure increase will not be so great.
Hot pressures must be balanced side to side. Once the tyres have cooled you will find that you will have a difference in pressure side to side, if you have been racing on a right hand track you will find the offside pressures will usually be higher than the nearside.


Changing hot inflation pressures by small amounts can be used to fine tune handling.

Reduce Oversteer Reduce rear pressures or increase front pressures
Increase Oversteer Increase rear pressures or reduce front pressures
Reduce Understeer Reduce front pressures or increase rear pressures
Increase Understeer Increase front pressures or reduce rear pressures


Achieving the required tread temperatures will depend again on the conditions on the day i.e. ambient and track temperature, wet or dry.

You often here competitors saying “My tyres started to go of towards the end of the race”, this is usually due to the tread getting to hot.

The tread temperatures are constantly changing through out a race, hotter when cornering and cooler when on the straights and cooling even more when you are slowing to come into the pits. Therefore the temps you record in the pits will be lower than those during the race. So if you record temperatures within the range given above the probability is the temps will be too high during the race.

Increasing your tyre pressures will cause your tread temperatures to increase, more pressure stiffens the tyre’s casing which results in the tread having to do more work resulting in the tread getting hotter. Lowering your pressures will cause them to decrease.


Inevitably changing one thing will affect other things, the whole set up of your car is a compromise between anything that is adjustable.

Some of you are also asking about different compounds. Originally we only had one compound ‘GG’ (medium hard), but we have now introduced some sizes in a ‘SG’ (soft/wet) compound. This was done primarily for sprint/hillclimb (around 60 second runs) where the distances covered are relatively short and you need the tyres to work/heat up very quickly. This is not a compound I would recommend for race/trackday dry use as the tyres will go off very quickly.

"

that sounds interesting. PM me if you need some extra blocking power. I'd love to get banned (again) from a cruise server.

The thing with the script which everyone seems to forget (exept Duck :o) and is the most important, is that it doesnt work on all pc's. That means it does give an unfair advantage to those that can make it work.
It is not a cheat, it is unfair however, and at the risk of beeing called a 'whiner' or a 'moaner', this is something that should have been fixed by the devs a long time ago. This discussion has been going on for years, all because of a flaw that could be fixed by the devs.

I'm sure guys like pecholobo wouldnt mind if the script couldnt be used any more, he (and others) just use whatever means possible to get the maximum out of lfs and its restrictions.

The french gendarmerie -had- this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMOkDQm9bwk
The reporter tells that that only special trained cops can drive the car. No criminal would outrun them now assures the fat cop (called poulain) inside!


Good job on that
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froggs are useless.