Quote from DeadWolfBones :

We are denying this objection on the following basis:

The spirit of the parade lap rule was intended to be applied to the SC period laps, but was not explicitly written to be so. However, the legality of re-taking position after spinning under the SC hasn't been clearly delineated, is nebulous, and thus falls under the discretion of the administrators. Since our intention was to allow this behavior, we are not going to penalize car #26 for engaging in it.

The rules will be changed for round #7 to make this more explicit. Thank you for bringing the issue to our attention.

I'm sorry but the following rules are pretty clear:

Quote :

6) When the SC is deployed, the track is under a full-course yellow condition. As such, drivers are to cease racing for position and fall in line—this means no passing whatsoever.[...]

6.1) Overtaking under a full-course yellow will result in a drive-through penalty (hereafter DT) if caught by the marshals, or a one (1) lap penalty in the final standings if protested after the race, unless the overtaking driver promptly relinquishes the position.

Car #26 did a mistake and spun by his own into T1. No other cars were involved in this incident so I see no reason why car #26 should be allowed to overtake under full-course yellow condition while he lost positions due to his own mistake thus breaking the above rules.

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:20.

Objection 1:
Cars: #18 ([CD]Subon) and #26 (cyber|scipy)
End of lap 31-Beginning of lap 32 / Time 57:02
In pitlane. Car #26 exits the garage on full acceleration without taking care of car #18 rolling on the pitlane, thus having the right, and almost hitting him.
Plus car #26 is crossing the yellow line at pits exit few seconds after the previous dangerous driving mentionned above.

Objection 2:
Car: #26 (cyber|scipy)
Lap 33 / Time 1:00:49
Car #26 spins into T1 and then overtakes to retake his place.
Rules state:

Quote :

4.5) Drivers who spin during the parade lap but do not incur serious damage may safely rejoin the field in their qualifying position. These drivers may disengage the pit limiter in order to retake their position, but must re-engage it once safely back in line. If the car is seriously damaged and difficult to control, the driver must join the rear of the line.

However this was not a parade lap so the rule is not valid. The safety car is a full course yellow so no overtaking

Quote :

6.1) Overtaking under a full-course yellow will result in a drive-through penalty (hereafter DT) if caught by the marshals, or a one (1) lap penalty in the final standings if protested after the race, unless the overtaking driver promptly relinquishes the position.

Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?8ns0zulddzm
http://download.yousendit.com/C9979DC129A70FD8

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:15.

Quote from The Moose :

I totally agree. Cheats should be named and shamed every time.

This dick was on the GFC server yesterday doing 51 second laps in a FOX at BL1.

Orangina:
0:52.23 with FOX @ AS2

Whilst the WR is actually 1:00.20 :rolleyes:

ConeDodgers #1 and #2 are in

Why only one track ?
Laguna Seca AND Spa-Francorchamps

Quote from BenjiMC :

Yup. They are valid

Thank you

OK, thanks for the answers

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

The only possible issue is that the number plate isn't on the rear of the FXR, but we realize that it can be hard to fit it there legibly and since you have the number/IGTC logo I think that'll do.

Just to avoid any confusion, do you confirm that the skins, as they are, are valid and legitimate for the IGTC races ?

What are the weather and wind settings used for the races ?

I found nothing about that in the rules

I have added a reserve to the FXR team

Attached file contains both CD FZR #18 and CD FXR #25 skins.

Please could any IGTC official tell me if the skins are officially accepted as valid for IGTC races as they are ?

Notice: these skins are private and shouldn't be used by anyone not being a member of the ConeDodgers Racing Team.
IGTC offcials and members of other teams involved in the IGTC league are allowed to use these skins for renders but not for driving online on any server.

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:35.

Quote from J.B. :

VLC is no good for interlaced stuff

Deinterlace is disabled by default in VLC. You have to manually enable it through the Video menu (usually use BOB) and it works pretty fine for me

I have updated the FXR team.

Button is the British Alési

Good drivers but bad career. Wrong teams at the bad moments, wrong choices, bad luck.

Quote from srdsprinter :

Right now, no.
I imagine that is in the interest of getting clean track for qualifying, but in a race, its instant DNF.

Thanks for clarification

Quote from srdsprinter :

Are your teams thinking about getting involved full-time, or just getting a feel for it at your track?

We plan to do all of the remaining races of the current season.
Then, we'll see...

Quote :

14.2) Shift + P (telepit) is not allowed, and will result in an instant DNF.

Does this rule apply to the qualify session as well ?

Quote from J.B. :

Maybe it's just not possible to have two equally strong drivers in one team without these kind of problems?

Ron Dennis already tried that twenty years ago with Prost and Senna.
Ideally and theorically it's a good idea to have two of the best drivers of the moment in the same team. And I believe that Ron Dennis, thus the wole McLaren team, is giving equal chances and technical support to both Alonso and Hamilton, like he did with Prost and Senna.

But pratically it doesn't work. There are other things involved and Ron Dennis should have learnt from the past.

Quote from Gunn :

I'm a bit dirty on Hamilton being craned out of the gravel last week though. I don't have the exact wording of the rule in question, but I believe it to be that: if you keep your motor running and are stranded in a dangerous position that you can receive assistance from the marshals who will push your car back on to the track so that you may remove the car from the dangerous position. It is the only time you are allowed to continue after receiving outside assistance AFAIK.

However, if the race was red flagged (a restart was imminent) I don't consider Hamilton to have been in a dangerous position at the time they removed his car via crane. I seem to recall many instances where a car was stranded in a risky spot but never craned out and allowed to continue. When Schumacher called for assistance once in the past he was beached on a ripple strip in a very dangerous spot under double waved yellows. The Marshals gave him a shove and away he went. I don't see much similarity to Hamilton's situation last week where he was craned out under red flag conditions.

I believe it was not directly related to Hamilton himself but more like to the use of a Mercedes engine in Germany.
For sure, being one of the drivers who can win the championship helped a lot.

I'm a baaaad booooy with naughty thoughts...

ConeDodgers Racing would like to join and to enter for the next race 4 hours of Aston National on 18th August 2007.

FZR:
Drivers:
[CD] Dimo - (DIMO6523)
[CD] EscorT - (EsCoRt RaLLy)
[CD] Snapp63 - (Tellingen)
[CD] Subon VW - (subon)
Reserves:
[CD] eArchitect - (cobra193)
[CD] Skstibi - (skstibi)

FXR:
Drivers:
[CD] Broe - (Damion1972)
[CD] Celmo - (Celmo)
[CD] Droemel - (Droemel)
[CD] Kas - (Mythdat)
Reserves:
[CD] Bu||itX - (bullitx)
[CD]

We may add another reserve to the FXR team later

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:05. Reason : Updated FXR team

Quote from Clownpaint :

This is stuff we haven't seen since the Senna/Prost era.

And the funny(?) thing is that they were also driving a McLaren at the time.
Looks like Ron Dennis has learnt nothing...

Quote from Intrepid :

schumacher at monaco

That was a mistake, check attached pic

Quote from uttoro :

You wont be kicked, you can do it in 2-3 meters. Just when LFS sends a message "x entered pitlane for completing the drive-tru", you set it in reverse, cross the line again, and you get a message: "x completed the penalty".

The point of this maneuver is when you collected a drive-tru, and you have a planned pitstop. Both of them canbe completed in one lap.

Yes, confirmed.

Quote from Toddshooter :

I had a "C" license but now when I try to access the CD4 server it tells me I don't have one. So I went to your website and did a license check and my license is gone. Was I deleted for some reason?

Not that I know
Are you sure you have done the target time ? Check !stats

And if so, please try to join the server again now.

Quote from The Very End :

If this is going to continue, then I would like to say that I belive that the complete Tour De France is a great dope-fest, where everyone or most of the riders use some kinds of illegal drugs to imrpove.

At least they have been caught.

I wonder if there are any professional sports which are absolutely doping free...

Please, allow RAR and 7zip formats for sending replays because some of them are quite big now and old ZIP has a poor compression ratio.

On a sidenote I got a SQL syntax error message. Looks like the 'Additional information' input box doesn't like single quotes in the text.

Quote from srdsprinter :

Frenchman defending a french driver. Nothing against that, but honestly:

Champcar is just weak. He's on the best team, which has a lot more to do with his sucess than his talent. He won't do anything noteworthy at a low-funded F1 team, so why not just enjoy being sucessful in a second-rate series?
...
Also, he's too old. He's already 28, not the age to be starting a F1 career. Teams want young talent.

Believe it or not but I don't care about nationalities. There are idiots everywhere and good people everywhere.
I may know a bit more about Bourdais and his results because I'm french but really this is not the point.
For instance, in the past years, I've always said that Hamilton should go to F1 as soon as possible. At the beginning of this season I even told my friends that Hamilton will be champion next year. I may be wrong, he may be champion this year

Mistakes ? Every driver I know did at least a mistake one day.
Check latest GP as an example, there are many many other ones... ;-)

Age ? I call that experience
Damon Hill won his first F1 championship at 36, Nigel Mansell at 39 and Juan Manuel Fangio won his first F1 championship at 40 and his last one at 46 (even though it was another era I'm not sure things were easier than today).

Quote from srdsprinter :

so WHY does everyone keep saying he "Deserves" a F1 seat?

Because he does ?

And who else is worth going to F1 ?