And the noob of the day (read wrecker) was Heidfeld.

Quote from srdsprinter :

Why, winning a joke championship over Paul Tracey a couple a times? Or does he deserve his F1 shot for doing a LFS NOOB Turn 1 at Le Mans?

Hehe, three championships won ATM, maybe four soon ? :P
If it's so easy, why the other drivers don't win ?


Source: http://www.sebastien-bourdais. ... /biographie2/palmares.php

I believe the guy is quite good and he deserves a tryout in F1. TBH we expected him to join the Renault F1 team, but there is something which is not working good between Reanult and Bourdais, not sure if it's about some sponsor issue or because he was approaching Peugeot at a time and you may know that Renault and Peugeot really hate each other.

Anyway let him drive a F1 and we'll see

Quote from J.B. :

http://rapidshare.com/files/44 ... massa_discussion.avi.html

Nice one
Unfortunately we can't hear the very beginning of the conversation, not your fault though


BTW, first couple of laps (crazy first lap + rain + Winkelhock leading):

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U98XH59I

Size: 132.76 MB
Duration: 4'10
Format: MPEG2 PS Interlaced
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Language: French :P
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Quote from Madman_CZ :

They should artificially wet the track at every race

Lol, I thought the same for a second

Quote from DarkTimes :

FFS red flag the race. This is nuts! Someone is going to get killed!

Quote from N I K I :

NO Red Flag

The rules are clear: a race shouldn't be stopped because of the rain.
I guess they red flagged it because of too many cars being off track but not because of the rain.

Aquaplanning world championship!

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:32. Reason : Added small video

Quote from MaximUK :

Each car has its unique quality and we should really drive them for that reason and not have to factor in the fact certain cars will never win if one of the quicker people turn up in the FZR.

You're talking from a short races point of view. I'm sure, and I know, that many teams will use the XRR for endurance races because of less tyres wear and less fuel consumption.
In expert hands, the FZR and the XRR can compete in short races. Check the top times on our servers, there is not a huge difference, and we are talking about aliens times. But the FZR is already obsolete for long races.
And frankly I'm seeing more and more FXR's these days (because it's easy to drive and forgiving) than FZR's and XRR's.

Maxim I know you're a XRR fanatic, but even if the XRR was the faster GTR I wouldn't drive it.
Because it's ugly and because it's a turbo car.
The FZR is the most beautifull car in LFS to me, the only one of the big GTR's which does NOT have a turbo and at the end it's the most brilliant car in LFS.
Yes, it's a personal opinion :P

Quote from Riders Motion :

isn't 'multijoueur' only in a word, or is there a space between them?

You're right, "multijoueurs" is the correct spelling

Found two other ones:

When I was hosting a non dedicated server, the string "New guest timed out" is not translated.

When I save a multiplayers replay, the translation is quite funny: "Replay multi sauvegardé - <filename>"
Replay is not translated, should be "Ralenti".
The sentence as it is means that the replay has been saved several times
The word "joueurs" is missing, the translated string should be: "Ralenti multi joueurs sauvegardé".

Quote from Roadie :

Redeemer!!!

Mmmmooooooonster kill !!

Quote from Eldanor :

Can I drop some oil on T1 too?

You can with this game: Re-Volt
Click on the red "Get it!" button.
A bit old but still a lot of fun

LFS will be a serious sim, I have no doubt about that. In fact it already has the best physics and car handle of all racing games I've tried.

Maybe, in the future, there should be an enhanced mode, say a kind of 'career' mode, where a lot of things are locked/forced for hardcore racers. But despite of what some think, a vast majority of the licenced users are not hardcore racers and they have bought a game.
So, in my opinion, you can't say to these hundreds of users "thanks for giving your money for the development but now you can f* off, we stay between serious racers only". This won't happen without big troubles, whatever the EULA says.

Both 'hardcore racers' and 'gamers' can live together, it's all about options and the simulation won't be affected in any way
More users = more money = affordable price for everyone.

A bit OT, sorry about that.
On topic: 'old' reset for the MRT ?

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:59. Reason : OT

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Been discussed to death in the threads that happened when the change was made. Doesn't seem like Scawen's going to put the half-reset back in, but you never know.

Yep, but I still believe that the reset as it is now is just useless. It doesn't even teach anything to the beginners except that they can drive like mad, it's not a problem because they have a brand new car each time they reset.
That's why I think that the 'old' reset should be kept as a server option. This is only my opinion.

On a sidenote, why not allowing the (old) reset for the MRT ?
This car has no reverse gear, and in real life you would jump off the car, pull it back on the track and keep on running (to the pits). Just an idea

Miranda

Just to let you know that the strings "voted to kick" and "voted to ban" are not translated to french anymore in X10.

I had a (quick) look at the French.txt files from X2 (which works fine) and X10 and couldn't find out why it doesn't work.

EDIT:
I've just noticed that both files are identical, even the date stamp is the same, so I guess the problem is not in the files.

EDIT2:
I've found another string which is not translated: "returned to the pit lane".
But this one doesn't work in both X2 and X10.

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:14.

Quote from southamptonfc :

I have found the framerate jumps around a lot more with X10, I found it got worse with X as well.

Yes, same here
Not only better FPS but the whole thing is smoother than before, which is good.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Scawen might think "am i ready to loose those 50 % of arcade loving players", but i hope he doesn't.

Seriously I don't understand why it bother you so much as long as YOU can use the options YOU want.
You will never join a cruising server and the cruisers will never try to win Masters of Endurance but both drivers can enjoy LFS as well, just in a different way.
Notice that no one complained when the false starts were introduced. There were some little discussions about clutch and handbrake, but no one said that the false starts are a bad idea. The problem with the view is that it's related to the feeling and feedback you get from the game AND it's directly related to the hardware you have. Obviously, the people who are using two or three 19"+ monitors are not playing the same game as the people who are using a 15" single monitor. Well, it's the same game but you know what I mean :P

Quote from alland44 :

I bougth Lfs, because ONLINERACING was great, and physics blasted the other games away

You got the point

Quote from richo :

Maybe Scavier are at the point where they want there Sim to viewed as a "serious" sim and are slowly removing the aspects that might be labeled "Arcade"?

Yes, they are aiming at making a simulation. But this is not incompatible with different ways of using it and with a good business strategy. To me the serious of the sim is about physics first. And I guess that's why we ALL enjoy LFS, hardcore racers or not. Damages, tyres, aerodynamics are examples of the next things to be improved.
The fact that LFS has good feedback and is already used, even as a show, by some famous racing teams, by some famous racers and by manufacturers like Force Dynamics and Frex already proves the serious of the simulation even if it's still in an alpha stage.

From a business point of view there is no point ending up with about 300 maybe 400 hardcore racers who have paid for the game three years ago and who are waiting for a release without giving money anymore. Any further update or version will even be more expensive for each one.
[mode=GranPa]
Being quite older than the lot of you, I have run several business in my life and I'm still running one. And believe me or not, bankruptcy can come quicker than you think and all of a sudden. A permanent cash flow is required. If you loose a large part of your customers and/or restrict the customers you have to a specific category, then problems will occur sooner or later in any business.
[/mode=GranPa]

Quote from Bladerunner :

What I think is needed is not the ability to FORCE certain views, but the ability to DISALLOW certain views!.

Yes, of course!

Thanks for your answer, now it's clear

Could the devs answer this please:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=480233#post480233

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=480581#post480581

Thank you

Quote from zeugnimod :

Do you think they would cause any less crashes if they used cockpit view?

I think about 75% of the crashes caused by chase view drivers could be avoided if they at least had mirrors.

Quote from Scawen :

Here is a new compatible Patch : X10

Quote from Self quote :P :

With my X2 version I can't join X10 servers, they are greyed in the servers list (wrong version).
I have no problems to join X9 servers though.

Hm, so I guess you did it on purpose ?

Quote from Damo :

I mean on ITV this weekend they have claimed British marshals are the worlds greatest

Quote from Becky Rose :

There is no question, this is true.

I think the Monaco marshalls and track staff are the best ones :P

Quote from rc10racer :

You talk out of your ass

Actually you are doing it.
I've only given my own opinion and so you already did.

Quote from rc10racer :

What makes chase view so dangerous in your eyes because there no mirrors.

It's because I'm admin on populated servers and with the experience I can tell you who is driving with a mouse/keyboard/gamepad and who is using a custom/chase view only by spectating them (well, most of them).
You may be experienced enough to race using chase view but I'm seeing every day the results of the mayhem caused by people using chase view and who have no idea at all of what is happening around their cars.

Quote from The Very End :

Why?

I already answered that.

Quote from Gunn :

Honestly, cockpit view can be mastered in just a few days, so I'd love to see more people persevering with it. I'm sure many would be surprised how quickly they would adapt.

But the cockpit view is a FPS killer.
There are more people than you think who are still using 'old' PC's and in this case a wheels/custom view helps a LOT. Read again the dozens of threads where people are so happy to reach the 50 FPS whilst they had 30 FPS before.

Quote from eRaptor :

I'm still waiting for someone to point me positive things on having this option!

Because some people are lobbying about the fact it should be more realistic.
It may look realistic for people who are using three monitors, but there is no way that it will look realistic on a standard 4:3 single monitor.

Quote from Vykos69 :

Guys, it's AN OPTION!!!

Still, I believe the option should be to disallow the chase view because it's a dangerous view to use on racing servers (no mirrors, you don't even hear the other cars untill they enter your screen) rather than forcing the use of a specific view, for obvious hardware reasons.

Quote from hackerx :

Nonsense. You can't ever FORCE me to drive in cockpit view. You can only force me not to drive. Will that make somebody happy?

Good point

Quote from Vykos69 :

needed updates for the forced cockpit option:

- customcam available for spectators pls (especially for streaming, watching league races with roof-cam e.g.)
- POV (not fov) adjustable in cockpitview. Meaning moving the position of the virtual eyes to front/back and up/down to some extent.

+1

Last edited by Lotesdelere, Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:00.

Quote from Scawen :

Here is a new compatible Patch : X10

With my X2 version I can't join X10 servers, they are greyed in the servers list (wrong version).
I have no problems to join X9 servers though.

Quote from Scawen :

- Added new multiplayer option : force cockpit view

I'd prefer to have an option to disallow chase view mode than to force a specific view TBH

Quote from SamH :

I recommend setting vsync on

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=928593
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/articles/DXtweaker/

Believe me, I've tried many many settings (Vsync ON/OFF, limited/non limited frame rate, video drivers tweaking, etc), but no way, I still got stutter when someone is joining the track. It's even a bit worse than it was in U30, but it is 'acceptable' though.
I also get a huge FPS drop when a big crash occurs, even one that I can't see yet and that I will discover the results around next corner.

Quote from Tweaker :

Is there a way to know if I am licensed?

You can check if you have a license, and if so which type of license, on the ConeDodgers site main page.

Type in your LFS username into the search box and click on the Search button

Alonso vs Heidfeld:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NT275TUX

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Size: 15.34 MB
Format: MPEG2 PS Interlaced
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Language: French :P