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marsaz
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Quote from Leprekaun :+1!

I'd add to that, 1300HP Turbo engines

...and take away the power steering
marsaz
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I'd say cars without TC will be an advantage to more experienced and/or skilled drivers rather than a problem
marsaz
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omg, so god do infact exist.. and he doesn't give a **** about FIA and stupid 180 years old bernie
marsaz
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I believe that Lewis is a great driver.. everyone who's in F1 is a great driver for sure. But you can't really jugde it so far because he has the best car this year. And the only one who he is competing against is Alonso. Alonso was 2 points behind which isn't much. Sadly for competition this tight Ferrari wasn't reliable enough this year and both drivers lost valuable points. Fight for driver's title would be much closer i think

What i am trying to point out is that Lewis have never been in any other team, you can't compare him to other drivers. It would be more accurate if he was in some midfield runner team. In certain circumstances (favorite tracks, weather conditions, mood.. etc) he'd really stand out by challanging or at least keeping up with the winning teams IF he was that great. Perhaps the best example is Ayrton Senna and his superb performances in wet conditions.

Not saying Lewis isn't something special. Just being skeptic about him being a king..
marsaz
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Quote from VTiRoj :
RAC - Race And Crash

ROFL, it couldn't be more accurate than that
marsaz
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Poor idiots... just let them be. It doesn't look like you'll come to an agreement. Because they'll just keep asking for more.

You are playing LFS just like we do. DAT IZ STEELING!
marsaz
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you can also try reducing camber on the wheels.. it looks like the inside of the tyres is taking much more stress than the outside. It may slow you down tho
marsaz
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Quote from Bob Smith :Most car engines could be revved a fair bit higher before blowing up/even sustaining damage, if it weren't for the presence of a limiter.

yes they could, but they are limiter for a reason. You can't simply drive a car around some track hitting full revs in each gear and expect it to last for hours
Engine rev limiter and heating
marsaz
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Hello,
I've been thinking about this for a while and i believe this have been posted before.. or not.

Most engines manufactured by Scavier revs WAY too much. For eg. XFG does about 10.5k rpm which is totally nuts for some stock 1.3 liter engine, or UF1 which makes it up to 8.2k or smth on 1 liter engine. Compare that to Honda civic with 1.6 liter dohc vtec (smth about 164hp?). It does 8.2k rpm too but hondas ar known as high reving machines. Most of the others peak out at 6000-7500 rpm range.

So what i'm trying to suggest is that rev limiters should kick in somewhere around power peak and not a couple of thousands higher. That'd bring some more realism to this already outstanding sim And of course zone above rev limiter should be extremely unhealthy for the engine. That would prevent shifting fron 6th to 2nd instantly in braking zones.

Also when engine heat will be modeled adjustable shift light would be usefull. You could adjust it to lower revs for longer races or higher for short ones. It's all on your risk and trust on engine durability.

Express your feelings, please
marsaz
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xwLC9Vlkk

Montoya vs Schumacher. Look at these highlights and try to understand how actually hard it is to overtake someone who gives "everything, absolutely everything..." to defent the position.

Of course first of all LFS is a game and i believe that most of the people playing it does it for fun, relaxation and so. But there is another group of guys who takes this racing simulator very serious (because it IS serious). They come to race like they would do it in real life. Especially when they have real racing experience.
These two groups have a different point of view about what actually "fun racing" is and i don't think they will ever come to one oppinion. So it is completely natural that his discussion is going the way it is.
I think we should just keep this in mind and continue racing as we like. Because both ways are legal and the only thing we can do at the moment is to race against people who think like us. This way there will be less conflicts

English isn't my mother tongue but i hope i made myself clear
marsaz
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Quote from Tomi :
Never heard about Gilles Villeneuve ?

Never heared about actually making sense?


And i agree with Alan. His posts are sensible and it is 100% clear he has race track experience.

On the track when i'm overtaking someone, i don't look at him i look at the gap in which i must get in. That way most of the opponents get surprised seeing me steaming through the inside. Focusing on your line works better than focusing on your opponent.
marsaz
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Quote from Tomi :you don't understand that the driver on the outside has the right to not back off. And you can also say that the driver on the inside takes the responsibility if he hit the one on the outside and spin because of it.

You also don't understand that the outside line can be as fast as the inside if the banking allow it or if the tires are in a better shape. Both drivers can exit the corner side by side.

i've mentioned above that if the car on the outside can be fast enough to keep up with the overtaking car and both cars can exit side by side they both have to leave eachother space. But that doesn't happen too often as the car on the inside takes the racing line and has more grip so more speed towards the exit. In most cases it will be fully ahead by the exit of the corner and even if it is almost ahead it has the right to block (squeeze) the car on the outside. The overtaking driver takes the responsibility to make the move clean during the entry of the corner. When the cars are alongside both have to leave eachother space. The exit belongs to whoever manages to reach it first.
Yes, i don't understand that the outside line can be as fast as the inside line because it simply can't and there are no banked corners in circuits. And a car without enough grip (weared tyres) will not be able to keep up anyway so it wont be overtaking anyone.
marsaz
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It's not the "pusher" it's the driver who's taking his line and if the outside-behind car makes a contact it takes the responsibility about what happens next I am not talking here about the guys who randomly run people of the road...
And who said squeezing someone isn't fair? If you are being squeezed and you don't back off you simply run out of track or make a contact it's simple as that. In both cases it's your fault. If you want to keep it clean, back off a bit and fight for it in the next corner or so
marsaz
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nobody said you must do it everytime being overtaken but this way of trying to get back on the exit when you lost the entry works on most of the corners. (remember the Hammilton vs Massa example)

And it will certainly be not you who's laughing when you'll be squeezed off the track while thinking "nobody can push me off!". Nobody keeps themselves on the outside line for too long (except situations where overtaking car is too slow to be in front by the exit of the corner) in real life because they know they will be squeezed off. It is racing, not gentelmen's club.
marsaz
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Quote from ayrton senna 87 :in my opinion, if you can see them on the inside then it is best to let them through, because if you turn in you KNOW they will be there! causing an accident.

that's exactly what i was saying. If someone gets through to the inside one should turn in late and get a better exit speed so there is a possibility to fight the lost position back
marsaz
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Yes, that move is completely legal. The only thing that i would like to point out is that being on the outside makes you able to brake later. Which of course Hammilton did and Massa had to brake even later if he wanted to get the inside of the corner.. but he couldn't stop himself in time.
Lewis did exactly what i tried to describe in the post above. He didn't try to keep on the outside, he went deeper into the corner to get a better exit.. well that doesn't really matter as Massa went off anyway.

Not sure how much exactly you have to be alongside with the defending car to have the right to the corner. From what i remember it is half the car's lenght but i may be wrong
marsaz
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Quote from Boris Lozac :I never knew if this maneuver is legal or not, so if someone can help me out..
Say i'm going bumper to bumper with someone, both following ideal racing line, the guy in front of me takes the outside to inside(ideal) braking into corner, but i move to the inside right before the braking point and take the inside line, forcing him to go outside or to lift off and position himself behind me...
I don't think that's a legal move but i noticed that many do it online... Then the "half of the car before the corner" rule goes into water.. ?

if it is outbraking you are talking about then it is absolutely legal
marsaz
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you can't simply brake very late to get the apex.. even if you somehow hit the inside line during the corner entry you'll get beaten on the exit.

You can only stay on the outside if you are really REALLY fast enough to stay fully alongside by going outside of the racing line. Otherwise you MUST back off or it is most likely that you will cause a contact and will be the one to blame. But there is a sensible option for the defender. If you missed the right moment and didn't block the attacking car which of course used the opportunity to take the inside line DON'T try to keep up with it taking the outside line. Try to go as deep as you can and cross the line of the overtaking car (just behind of it) that way you get much better exit speed and hopefuly can get the position back
marsaz
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T1 isn't the only problem. Turn 1 is very difficult and even proffesional drivers in real life (where they know the price of an accident) do mistakes and crash. What made me worried is lack of knowledge about racecraft in public servers. Seriously some of those guys look like they've never heared of racing.

Even racing one on one when you don't have to watch 5 other cars around you and one can keep his focus on the opponent. Everytime i block someone in the middle of a corner i get pushed, hit, rammed even if the car was completely behind me. If someone sticks the bumper on the inside which is obviously not enough and i shut the door i simply get pushed out of way ... NOBODY EVER BACKS UP
(I've bought a wheel two days ago, so i'm a bit off the pace atm, that's why i'm talking about defence)
Is it because nobody cares or is it just like on the highway where speeding guys in the more expensive cars expect you to get out of way 'cuz THE MASTAH IS ON DA ROAD!!!

"I have a better speed, but this car in front is in my way.. so let's remove the obstacle!!" ..
marsaz
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Real cars and tracks? What does it exactly add to the sim? Does it make the sim more realistic? I think not.
Think about real life situation:
You get an opportunity to drive a BMW M3 (mentioned somewere above) on Silverstone circuit. Well and you take that opportunity, you have fun, adrenaline rush and regular stuff that happens when you drive fast Smile
How different would it be if the car didn't have BMW badges all over it and the track wasn't named "Silverstone" ? If the car had similar handling and performance? And the circuit was just as fun even if it WASN'T the Silverstone?
Think about it... is it the name that matters to you most?
marsaz
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just put some racing equipment on \o/
marsaz
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If engine damage was implemted it would nice to be able to fine tune cars engine.
So setups could vary from sprint performance to endurance run. Which is good tbh. I don't have much knowledge about engine tuning and what settings would actually improve it's performance but shorten life and vise-versa but undoubtably there are some
marsaz
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I get this when i'm doing it IRL. Approaching any corner on the flying lap is just so intense and exciting. The heart is beating so fast and strong as you are considering where to brake and turn-in. You can feel the speed constantly building up and the shaking (in a kart) makes it feel like you are going at least twice faster than you really are and when you finally make it throught the corner another one is coming up...
Doing all that in LFS takes some time to get involved and if you DO get involved into this evil ( ) simulator you get some adrenaline and other stuff too. The effect is a lot lesser than IRL tho, but still fun. That's how i feel about it
marsaz
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nice job SamH

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marsaz
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Quote from antman2006 :I can't be bothered searching I just want my updates

Devs can't be bothered updating they just want LFS to be the best sim!
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