Let's just wait for DeKo.

F1 99-02 has good ai too then?
Nice.

I've been hearing that GP4 has the best one yet tho.
Anyway, i guess this weekend i"ll grab me a copy.

Just please direct us to the mods...

Quote from KartRacer :

I think people may be forgetting why corners have names. Many tracks have only one or two corners that go by an actual name. The History behind a corner and/or its surrounding landmarks tend to be what makes names memorable. LFS has neither, the history isnt there, we cannot name a corner after someone who lost their life there, someone who won/lost a world championship there, a family's house, a street corner etc etc etc.

Maybe there should be a vote on which corners get specific names, because after all if we name every dam* thing on the track, what makes the name special anymore?

This man got a pretty good point.

But... i think it's all "in jest" this whole corners naming thing? Right?
Just to have some laughs on its expense.
That's what i did make about it anyway.

Sorry if i'm wrong.

So.. those screenies are from "f1 99-02"?

That's the name of the game?
What mods are used on those?

Please help a brother out.... hehehe
Being a little more specific (game, mods), i"ll go after the rest of it.

Does this "f1 99-02" have a good AI?

Yeah, that's exactly what happens to me almost every single race, be it a pubbie or a league one.

I'm faster than the very slowest guys on the grid (who probably lack sets or training or both) but can't touch the "quick" guys at all.

So yeah, i'm on that position a lot.
The people who are behind me can't reach me and i can't reach the podium (top 3) guys, that's the norm anyway.

I rarely finish on the top 3 positions. (And i finish a lot )

So.. what do i do?
Everytime i find someone who's kinda on the same "beat" as me i write down their login names (push CTRL+SHIFT on the connections' list) and later on add them as my buddies on LFS World.

And then, whenever i see one of them online i go after them (using LFS World Live Alert) and we can have some pretty good battles and all.

You don't need to win to have fun, at least i've got a lot of great moments on LFS and just a few wins.

It's a lot more about the close battles than winning, at least for me.
(Or maybe this could be a loser's excuse :tilt


ps: of course that some time after that those guys get faster than me and i end up alone again but i can always find me another midfielder mate... then i add his nickname... well, you get the idea! hehehe
ps2: heck, anyone who wishes to run against an "open wheeler midfielder", just add me. i'm pretty active.

I"ll be taking a look at GP4 + mods, looks like it's the best option for what i'm looing for (good AI + full season and full racing weekend's action), thanks guys.

Quote from Linsen :

1. Bump-drafting should not be allowed, imho. At least not unless both parties agree on it.

Why?
Lag issues?

Quote from herki :

(just like Senna showed)

It's Piquet the one who overtook Senna and did that pretty powerslide.
Well, since both of them are Brazilians, I'm proud anyway

ps: but yeah, Senna was a lot better

Last edited by Meanie, Sat 20 Jan 2007, 00:01.

Hello, i love LFS, the open wheelers mostly(sp?) and have a lot of fun in them.
And yeah i know and truly recognize that LFS is the most well simulated racing game on the market right now.

Having said that can you guys suggest me some PC F1 racing games?
The last one i came across was Grand Prix 3 (2001?) so there's probably better options for me as of 2007.

I want something with "good" AI, that's all.
Just want to cruise on the F1 tracks and have some weekend racing fun, you know?

And yeah i don't need (if you still have the urge, go ahead anyway hehe) to be told that LFS has got the best F1 physics (heck, i dunno if theres even any other "game" who isn't "racing on rails" at all) and that there are a lot of leagues running them and all that jazz.

It could either be a F1 game (EA games? GP4?) or a good mod for another "simulator".

And to repeat myself once again, i know that it will be a lot different to LFS (to which im pretty used right now, even being slow as i am) and a "game" and all that. Ok? hehe

I just would like to test some F1 games and see if i can have fun with them, that's all. I'm just trying not to piss off the people who play LFS only and apparently really "hate" or something people who doesn't, heh.

Thanks for the help!

Looks like he really went out of his way to "publish" it.

He even registered an account at our brazilian league forum's and posted a thread about his "discovery", heh.

Quote from AndroidXP :

Set it up like this: http://www.lfsforum.net/attach ... id=20371&d=1165055529

In LFS I'd suggest around 40% FF strength, but that's up to you. As we've just found out in this thread, you can also try to set it to 101% in the Logitech Profiler (instead of 100% like shown in the screenshot), as it apparently removes some driver induced force damping.

Jesus, man...

I've changed it today and went for a spin.
Turns out that now i'm regularly shaving off .1-.3 of my laps.
I didn't made any PBs yet but my "ordinary" lap is now from .1 to .3 faster on average. Consistently faster.

That's pretty cool.

Quote from AndroidXP :

Set it up like this: http://www.lfsforum.net/attach ... id=20371&d=1165055529

In LFS I'd suggest around 40% FF strength, but that's up to you. As we've just found out in this thread, you can also try to set it to 101% in the Logitech Profiler (instead of 100% like shown in the screenshot), as it apparently removes some driver induced force damping.

Thanks, will do.
What about LFS wheel compensation?

I've got a black momo and don't have a complain about it, but if it can be configured better, i'm all for it!!

I use it like this:

logitech profiler -
100% overall

100% "first one"*

100% "second one"*

centering spring turned on (i guess it's a "check box" , right?)

pedals axis separated, of course...


In game i use 100% FFB and 0.30 Wheel Compensation

So... what should i do to make it better?
101% overall (or does it work only with DFP?)

cut to zero all the others "effects" on the logitech driver?
uncheck the "centering" box?

1.0 wheel compensation would be better? i'm using it at a value which was suggested to me by a friend but i do not know what it does mean etc

Any help would be really appreciated.



*i don't have it installed right now and i don't remember the terms, i'm sorry but anyway it's all on 100%.
could anyone *explain* to me what those "terms" means? my english isn't exactly stellar... thanks a lot

Well, one of the things that i'm think is pretty lame (my opinion, i may not be entitled, it seems, to have one on the CLC servers but i'm entitled for that here on this forum) is the "English only" requirement.

I found some friends on the server and went to talk with them (i was explaining the lotto system and then guidin' them to ther other pit to collect their money).

We're from Brazil. We speak portuguese.

1min after that the server got spammed by
"WTF WTF SPEAK ENGLISH PLEASE"
"WTF WTF SPEAK ENGLISH PLEASE"
"WTF WTF SPEAK ENGLISH PLEASE"

Then followed by a warning from the owner of being kicked if i continued to speak in another language that wasn't english.

I asked why and got the answer that "since it doesn't make any sense it's flood, so stop flooding or you"ll get kicked". Alright.
He said that "we try to keep chattin' here to a minimum" too. Alright.

I left shortly after that. (not kicked)

Then i came back to the server some time after that and my friend was there still.

I proceed to talk to him and ask him what he was up to, and not two phrases after our conversation started we got again warned:

"ENGLISH ONLY!"
"ENGLISH ONLY!"
"ENGLISH ONLY!"

"I told you already! I"ll kick you!"

Some of the other players we're also curious about why the threat of kicking someone for just conversation and they said that someone might be "talking on the back" on another language of the mods or something so then that's why we need to stop it or get kicked. Alright.

Three reasons.
Let's get on to them:


1) Flood - Making sense

Well you see, that "making sense" bit is a lil tricky and honestly, not really "honest".

Why? Well, you can't "make sense" of most of the talk either, since you didn't start at the beggining of it or some other unknow (yet in "english") "terms" are used. "Smileys" and other "graphical" resources too.
But it's allowed, clearly (and i don't think it's a bad thing, at all), the chat.

So, what's up with that?


2) Trying to keep chattin' to a minimum

I don't see that, seriously.
Chattin' is clearly totally supported and make up for most of the fun there too. And i think it's a great thing. Or else you might be driving with bots too.

If you guys are trying to keep the "chat" (messages) to a minimum, well, that's too bad too.
From time to time you see a serious flood of "commands" (!cash, !prices, etc), a lot of them. That "flood" a lot the server. A lot more than two guys chattin up a little.


3) Talkin' on the back of the mods

Well, do you guys really care that much?
I mean, we're just chillin there and having a good time, talking when needed ("hey, wanna drive in the other way way?" etc).

If someone is talking bad of you in your server you sure are entitled to kick/ban him but you honestly think that's why people are speaking in "unknow" languages? Really?
They might as well thrash you on TS, MSN or something.

Sounds pretty silly to me, but hey, that's your server.



What i would like to know is that if you guys can't "relax" a little on that issue?

We're just having a good time, chilling, relaxing, and sometimes we need to communicate, right? LFS is a pretty "international" game and i take pride on that, do you guys want your server to be just an "english language only" server? Why?
Are we really ruining anyone's fun? Really?
I mean, the server isn't our so you guys can kick whoever you want but i thought that CLC was mainly for relaxing, having a good time driving, isn't it? That's why i got really confused.

And about the TS thingie (they said "go to TS if you don't want to speak in english"), not eveyone has a mic, not everyone can "make noise" at any time, not everyone really wants to "talk" while relaxing there (i'm one of them, i don't drive with music when racing but on CLC i turn on winamp and listen to some tunes, pretend its on my in game car's radio).

Are we really spoilin' anyone's fun?
Or being bad players because os that?

If we're being a nuisance, we won't log in anymore.
Not trying to ruin anyone's fun.

While in game you can always use these commands:

*Type T to bring in the chat/command thingie*

/w laps (will display your laps on that combo)
/w distance (will display all your travelled distance on your online license)

And you can always use that to see others' people stats too.
For exemple.

/w Davo laps (will show you how many laps he did on this combo)
/w Davo distance (will show all his travelled distance)

and so on...

Quote from quackdougal :

6 minutes to reply wow you guys rock

thanks Jakg, will head there now....

Nice one bud :yipee:
QD

Updated: OMG you got ghost cars there as well, so many mods i new nothing about, hahaha you've *really* made my day :]
thanks again

Yep, i'm REALLY grateful to Kegetys.
momoleds, pitspotter, ghost car

all of those make my LFS experience a LOT better

807MB, 5637 files, 58 folders.
I wasn't expecting that!! heheheh

Goddamn that's hella cool!!!

And (not trying to be a smartass or anything like that) to be honest "this" here always picked up my attention:



Yeah i hope the AI eventually gets better and all but...

I think LFS is *really* (as you can see in the picture) geared towards online multiplayer, more than any other racing gaming ever released.
Hell, we even got the best multiplayer features of any racing gaming released too. Wonder why




ps: 1140 players online? that's sweet. whats our record?

What i would like to know is if Patch V will be a compatible patch with U30.
If yes, it's all good, i"ll keep using it till the sound gets where i think it's better.

If not...


ps: i've read all THIS thread and saw nothing abou it...

Quote from Flycantbird :

As the sound develops, would it be possible to allow the user to choose between the original ( patch U) sounds / or the newer sounds - or would that present problems in on-line play ?

That's an interesting question.
O would like to know that too.

Quote from Renku :

From the past I've learned, that running the replay higher speeds may cause different results in some of the tables. The top speed chart is definitely affected and IIRC there were some others. I tend to run all my stats "on the fly" these days. It's not possible always, but . You could test it yourself, first a replay at x1 speed and then faster. How fast? I'd recommend the speed when the replay is still fluent. But if I had to do the stats from a replay, I would always run the replay at normal speed.

Is it heavy at all, to run "on the fly"?
My specs are posted above.

What do you think?
If it's viable to run on the fly, i"ll do it.
It"ll be a lot better to have the results as soon as the events ends.

Quote from smith :

Meanie, use any speed which doesnt cause lfs to stuck up and stop reacting to your input. 8x and even 16x (in case of low players count) works for me. you might also want to switch to car wheels view prior to speeding up, what significantly reduces system load.

and yes, everything except braced words in templates can be changed.

I'm aleady translating it and it's looking good!
Thanks man.

If you wish i can send it to you later then, if you have any interest at all of having a "portuguese" version hehhe.

Ahhh, if you can, please take on the question i asked Renku too.
It would be nice to have your opinion on that.

Thanks again.

Hey smith, thanks a lot for your proggie!
I've got a question tho (i've read the supplied readme.txt):

How (if possible) can i translate some of the "terms"? I just want to change the name of the "fields", you know?
I mean, i want to put stuff in portuguese (no funny characters), should i just change the template or something? Will that work?

Thanks again for the applet.


Edit: This is my PC:
MSI K8N NEO4 Platinum (Nforce 4 Ultra)
A64 Venice 3500+ (@ 2300 MHz)
HDD SATA 200 GB Samsung (8MB Buffer)
2GB Ram DDR Samsung TCCC Dual Channel (2 x 1GB @ 440MHz - 1T)
Geforce 6800GS CO SE eVGA 256MB (500/1200) PCI-E

At which max speed i should run my replays while i'm using LFS Stats?
(Yeah i know that "Shit happens" hehehe but apart from that...)
Some races might take a really long time to finish, you know.

You think 8X would be "safe", or maybe 16X?

Last edited by Meanie, Sun 17 Dec 2006, 23:53.

Quote from bbman :

Yes, as soon as you are being disconnected, it saves the replay (which was recording up to that point)...

And if i'm not?
That "temp" replay which lingers there... is the "last" race replay?
Does it work even if it's a replay cut short due to a disconnection?

I ask this cause having auto-replay on while solves this problem creates another one: one million replays in no time hehehe.

Quote from Scawen :

Well, I already said that I had made a note to do this extremely quickly.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=288682#post288682

So there's no need to try and convince me of this. It's been said so many times now, and I've already agreed to do it. In fact I've already done it in my version.

We've got to watch out for repetitiion here - as usual it will slow me down. I'm trying to take this thread seriously, so please people, READ THE THREAD before posting!

Sure thing, sorry my man.
I was just replying to Al, why it isn't "so easy" and all to do, you know?
In fact he was the one who didn't read (apparently), maybe i should've just directed him to your earlier post but i thought i should point that yeah, "we" already thought about what he suggested and it didn't work and told him the why. That's all, no offense intended.

I've read your quick notes and in fact i already posted them on our brazilian league forums and all that good stuff.

I'm glad that will be changed.

Keep up the good effort.

Hello, i would like to know if when a server goes down, if you have auto replay on, the replay of the race so far till the server got off is saved?

If it isn't, is such a thing possible to do?
Saving after you "get out" (since the server goes down, you get "kicked" from it hehe) of the server?

Sometimes servers do crash and it's nice to have a replay of the action till the server got off for various reasons.

Thanks.