Quote from Shotglass :

fair enough but unlike petrol powered cars electric cars become gradually more environmentally sound as power plants get upgraded to different cleaner technologies without requiring to replace them and regardless of how old the electric car in question is

good point, but again, how long would that take? 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? As the technology evolves of course the cars will get better, but in my opinion, at least for us in the UK we need to sort out the problem of where we will get the energy from to power all those electric cars, and only when we have the infrastructure in place to support them start developing cheap, reliable but fast electric cars which will appeal to the mass-market. Starting with the electric cars before the system can actually cope is only taking one step forwards two steps back.

But who knows? It will be interesting to see if when this initiative is brought in in 2011, sales of electric cars shoot up. Also it'll be interesting to see what becomes of the 25000 charging points old Boris has promised.

Quote from Shotglass :

just stop all you could get from this thread is ebarassment

err, no actually. Look back through at the points I've made. You may be sitting pretty in your lovely country with more than enough electricities and your successful 'exchange old cars for monies' initiatives, but the simple fact is this country, the UK, is in such an appalling state such a system would never, ever work.

my credentials are little, but I do happen to live in the UK and know just how much strain there is on the national grid. Putting the burden of electric cars onto it would cripple the country

Quote from Shotglass :

and you worked that out thanks to your extensive knowledge on daily monthly and anual electric power consumption and leveling strategies?

and you managed to counter it because a German like yourself has extensive knowledge of the British national Grid?

Quote from kingfag :

But still, how much electric cars are for sale today? Th!nk, Gay-wizz and Tesla makes a massive list of 3 cars to choose from. 2 death traps and a sportscar...

Only 3 cars available, clocking up a massive 179 sales between them last year due to them being totally unaffordable and generally shite....

Hydrogen is the only conceivable option. People need to get the 'electricity=instant green option' idea out of their heads. They may bleat about it being expensive, but it's no more expensive than installing so many millions of pounds worth of 'juice points' that, knowing this governments track record half of them will be faulty, with the other half being vandalised by the 'yoof'

about 1998 when I was 8, on a Windows 98

Quote from TypeRacing :

erm, from wind generator indeed ?

nope, from coal-fired power stations. If the windfarms we have here at the moment were put to work producing the electricity required for the electric cars, they'd still have to be heavily backed up by the coal-fired stations

this initiative will never work. Why? A G-Whizz costs upwards of £15000. For this to work there needs to be an electric car produced that can happily do 70mph and not need recharging after 40 miles.

Add to this the sheer laughable naivety of the government, thrusting these electric cars on us as a way of solving 'climate change' when they have no idea where the electricity to power the cars comes from - a coal or gas fired power station of course! And by the time the electricity reaches the plugs, going through all the substations and processing and that sort of stuff, it has produced more emissions overall than if you were using a petrol car instead!

hates - being friendzoned:weeping::bananadea

I'll put a stop to that......

why are there so many schol haters? Sure when I was 14/15 I didn't like it at all but you'll look back on it, especially the later years of school as some of the best in your lives. Sure the workload may get a bit tough at times but I know I'd rather have to do a lot of work to end up with a good knowledge of subjects than have no education whatsoever

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Yes!! I agree... I'm 17 and have never been more than slightly tipsy. I go to the occasional party and enjoy a beer in the evenings, but I just can't stand drunk people and have no urge to constantly embarrass myself..

agreed. I have far better things to do in the evening than go out getting smashed

Quote from Blas89 :

One of the things I hate the most today is my confused freaking mood

join the club

Quote from ajp71 :

What you got against Practical Classics? Along with Racecar Engineering it's the only car mag I bother buying

I used to love it but I found it going downhill

- People who start arguments yet are incapable of backing themselves up
- People who are incapable of using the correct version of There/Their/They're, and Your/You're
- People who are incapable of using apostophes properly
- Whiny teenagers who dislike the fact they can't buy booze/fags/porn
- Selfish people who act as a drain on society
- Social engineering in local councils
- Political Correctness
- Greeny-liberal do-gooders
- Chavs
- Emo/scene girls
- Rap music and all the connotations it brings with it
- 17/18 year olds who put circles, hearts or stars above their 'i's
- People bleating on about windfarms
- People who don't see nuclear power as the 'future'
- People who compare Jade Goody to a Saint
- The far-right in America
- The Labour Party
- The Conservative Party
- Proselytising (sp?) gays
- The Daily Mail
- Jonathon Ross
- Russell Brand
- People who backstab
- PETA
- The RSPCA's refusal to do anything about badgers spreading Bovine TB
- Lack of adequate holiday
- Lack of money
- Shallow people
- Girls who complain about being treated as objects, yet are all too willing to take slutty photos of themselves to post on the internet
- Classic car enthusiasts who complain about banger racing
- Practical Classic magazine
- The BBC
- Bebo
- The RIAI
- Old people who drive cars way too slow
- The judicial system
- The EU
- Asians who complain about being called 'Paki' when they all go around calling each other that anyway
- Asians who believe it perfectly normal to drive a Nissan Micra packed with 5 children, the parents and grand-parents all not wearing seatbelts
- Extremists who believe it perfectly normal to go around blowing people up in the name of some distorted interpretation of their religion
- Prisoners who claim 'human rights'
- Death by dangerous driving not being classified as murder
- The war in Iraq
- Annoying BBC name changes - Mumbai/Bombay and Beijing/Peking
- Vegans
- Constant meddling in the education system
- Lack of sleep

Last edited by mookie427, Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:52.

Quote from 5haz :

The Prodigy - Spitfire

Venetian Snares - Chinaski

(off the album Songs About My Cats, described as an 'unlistenable, maddeningly beautiful piece of cat vomit' on the IDM forum I frequent)

Quote from AjRose :

yeah, there's a funny unit of length in the UK called 'miles'

Quote from mookie427 :

Fatboy Slim - The Joker

This, again. It's so bloody good

Fatboy Slim - The Joker

Underworld - Spikee

no

LFS is all you need

Quote from BastianB :

The Chemical Brothers - Come Inside

nice one

Venetian Snares - Cancel

Quote from Gener_AL (UK) :

Indeed, my favourite orbital track has to be belfast.

I much prefer Belfast to Chime, guess I like the more chilled out stuff than the dance-orientated stuff. But the B-side to Chime, Deeper, is absolutely top notch

Orbital - I Wish I Had Duck Feet

me on my way to having to perform a major save to keep it on 4 wheels...