Jason makes a good point here. It is quite a difference in the "fun" factor when racing public 5 lappers compared with long length league racing. With how quick the races are on the public servers, a single backmarker can ruin the entire race for someone who is racing up front. In fact, he will ruin it for the frontrunner because all it takes is a single corner to be held up in and he is way behind with the race finishing up pretty quickly.
That's only a point I want to, well, point out. It still doesn't mean that a backmarker should jump completely out of the way or be punted from the track, if he had started the race. On the other hand, with these public races, the question arises as to how one gets to the point of being blue flagged by the lead pack. Really the only way to become a lap down on a public server would be to have wrecked/spun out, to have mid-joined, or be so horribly slow that he really shouldn't be online racing. In this case, then the race really is over for said backmarker (or never started to begin with) and there isn't much point in not getting out of the way.
Also, I do see the "2 seconds off" mentioned quite a lot. If someone is 2 seconds off pace from another racer, that person is not going to go a lap down in a public racing server. Without calculating, I would say someone would have to be at least 15 to 20 seconds or more slower to go a lap down in 5 laps (depending on car/track combo of course.)
Yeah, but how's that free laptop? We in the rest of the world can get cheaper cars by the hundreds of thousands, but you can get a laptop with all the taxes you pay. You definitely get a laptop.
I think I remember TVE saying something about laptop computers being supplied by the government via taxes.
I think I remember TVE saying something about laptop computers being supplied by the government via taxes.
Their used car market over there is stupidly cheap. Not only that, but they have stupidly low miles on the cars. Look at Pearcy's post. I wouldn't expect any one of those cars to have less than 160,000 miles on them. They wouldn't have much life on them where I am as they would be a pile of rust in the next 2 years.
What's up with all the gay music? You guys really listen to some gay stuff....
Friday I cleared the last snowstorm from my driveway (4-6 inches, nothing much.) The neighbor isn't home in the winters, but her daughter stops by to check on things so I figured I would clear it out. Wish I took the camera with me as it hadn't yet been cleared since the first snow. Had about 20-24 inches (50-60 cm) of snow I cleared out.
Ok then.... I think I've already posted this in the Christmas thread. It's not a great photography photo, just a snap....
Think so?
My car looks like that as well. It's so built up that you can't turn the wheel the entire rotation. Problem is, you can't kick the stuff off and at 9 F, taking it to spray it off at the carwash isn't an option unless you want everything else to be frozen up on the way back.
As for the yet again comparison of car prices of the US vs. the UK, please note what the average wages are in comparison as well.
That CRV books for $8400. That's not exactly cheap for an almost 10 yr old car little SUV wantabe.
Boris, your 1990 Golf would be about $1300 value now 4 years after you bought yours. Comparitively, a 4 year newer VW today would be valued at $2360, close enough to what you state. The issue with this is, either of these cars would more than likely have 200k miles on them, thus would be a pile of rust or close to it where I'm at.
Life expectancy over 150k miles is pretty slim.
And Speed1 is talking out of his arse if he thinks insurance on a Corvette ZR-1 would be reasonable for a 16 year old. It would probably be nearly half of what any normal 16 year old would make at his job for a year.
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If you're that bored, show more of the axe! I'm bummed just having broke a string on my new electric with no time to get to the store to buy new strings. Gotta get home after work so Wifey can get going to work, so can't stop at the music shop.
Mike - The axeless man
Privatized roads. What a fantastic idea. That will keep the ice from forming...
Show me the hill, I'll climb it no problem.
My brother-in-law use to tell me the same thing about his driveway. Stick it in 4WD and in 1st gear and just idle your way up.
There's no way you guys have that much snow that you couldn't get up a hill in a 4x4. The first thing I did when I first got my 4x4 years back was find the loneliest road I could find that wasn't touched by a snow plow to have some fun. The snow was up past the headlights and I giggled the whole time bashing through that stuff up and down hills.
It's all in how you drive. As for e2mustang's comment, snow does not equal crash. Incompetence plus snow is what equals crash. The people you see driving 50 mph in snow and find them in a tree later down the road, they simply don't know how to drive.
I'm having a difficult time trying to find the slippery parts in the snow lately. I have 18 inches compacted down in my yard, which isn't a whole lot of snow to be honest. I haven't found the roads slippery at all. There actually is quite a lot of grip depending on the type of snow that is on the roads. Combine ice with it and it's a different story (like the video earlier). Can't do much with ice, but snow, shouldn't be a problem.
For those having difficulties with poor tires in snow, try learning to drive with the handbrake. It was the only way I was able to turn with the Geo Storm I mentioned way above. It's no different than learning how to drift or catch a slide in racing. You learn from memory how the car is going to react and you control it into that situation, not let the snow control it.
You folks are talking about losing control and crashing though. I am led to believe from most posts in this forum from just about every one of you that you guys are perfect, know everything, and know how to drive.
You guys shouldn't be crashing. There's a difference between losing control and crashing and just not being able to move your car.
I drove through 3 Pennsylvania winters in a (POS) Geo Storm in which at the time, the only tires available in that size was strictly a road performance tire. The car weighed next to nothing and couldn't drive through snow at all. I as a "stupid american" never crashed or lost control of the vehicle. My only issue was getting moving in the snow. Thus, I don't see why the perfect know everything folks in the UK can't cope with a little bit of snow because that is really all you have, a little bit of snow.
Of course, as for the video on folks sliding on the ice, there isn't a thing you can do in that situation if you need to stop. Locking up the brakes obviously is going to cause you to slide when on a downgrade, but letting go of the brakes isn't going to stop you either.
I do recall you guys posting the well known video of people sliding on ice (posted again a while back on this thread I think) and commenting on "stupid americans..." Yet now we have videos of UK folks in the same situations doing the same thing, but you all would be offended if us in the US said, "stupid brits."
Glad to see the shoe is on the other foot.....
You guys shouldn't be crashing. There's a difference between losing control and crashing and just not being able to move your car.
I drove through 3 Pennsylvania winters in a (POS) Geo Storm in which at the time, the only tires available in that size was strictly a road performance tire. The car weighed next to nothing and couldn't drive through snow at all. I as a "stupid american" never crashed or lost control of the vehicle. My only issue was getting moving in the snow. Thus, I don't see why the perfect know everything folks in the UK can't cope with a little bit of snow because that is really all you have, a little bit of snow.
Of course, as for the video on folks sliding on the ice, there isn't a thing you can do in that situation if you need to stop. Locking up the brakes obviously is going to cause you to slide when on a downgrade, but letting go of the brakes isn't going to stop you either.
I do recall you guys posting the well known video of people sliding on ice (posted again a while back on this thread I think) and commenting on "stupid americans..." Yet now we have videos of UK folks in the same situations doing the same thing, but you all would be offended if us in the US said, "stupid brits."
Glad to see the shoe is on the other foot.....
And have fun going to school until July or not getting paid for work
"Snowed in" would have to have snow measured in feet, usually enough to be measured in meters for you metric folks. It hasn't stopped snowing for 2 weeks here. Although the idiots on the roads here are acting just as you guys are and panicking. The difference is, we are good for this every couple of weeks through the winter every year, not every 50 years
. Thus people here should be use to it.Roads are covered in packed down snow and have been for 2 weeks. May as well be completely clear as there's a ton of grip. People don't go by the actual road conditions and instead panic because there are snow flurries flying in the air.
Just 2 days ago, roads were completely passable, yet I caught up to a 4WD SUV doing 30 mph while I was traveling along just fine at 60 in my little tiny car. He had cars backed up 10 deep behind him. We also have the "speed up to 60 then ride the brakes down to 30" folks on the roads. Those are the worst folks and the cause of most of the accidents.
All the servers running different systems and having to get stuck in the XFG every time a new server with it running comes up isn't nearly as annoying as getting halfway through a short 5 lap race and realizing you have to leave the good close racing you are having to do a mandatory pit.
Has to be asked...
Do you folks have brains at all that function? As was already said, there are over 500 servers listed on the master server. What combo do you want, I can look for you.
Want a really odd-ball combo? Ok then, there is a filter "Allow guests to select tracks". Now we have 200 servers in my list. What combo do you want?
Wait, LX4 @ KY2R was specifically mentioned above. Let's filter "allow guests to select tracks" and we will also filter "LX4". Wow! Look at that! There's 82 servers with the LX4 enabled and you are allowed to select whatever track you want! Amazing!
Again, you will be driving all by your lonesome. Why? Because you want this but others don't. Others want to be on the restricted servers, therefore that is where everyone is.
It's the collection of racer's fault, not any fault of the server not being there!
Amazing how people can't think it through for themselves....
Do you folks have brains at all that function? As was already said, there are over 500 servers listed on the master server. What combo do you want, I can look for you.
Want a really odd-ball combo? Ok then, there is a filter "Allow guests to select tracks". Now we have 200 servers in my list. What combo do you want?
Wait, LX4 @ KY2R was specifically mentioned above. Let's filter "allow guests to select tracks" and we will also filter "LX4". Wow! Look at that! There's 82 servers with the LX4 enabled and you are allowed to select whatever track you want! Amazing!
Again, you will be driving all by your lonesome. Why? Because you want this but others don't. Others want to be on the restricted servers, therefore that is where everyone is.
It's the collection of racer's fault, not any fault of the server not being there!
Amazing how people can't think it through for themselves....
Out of 462 servers (not counting cruise as I had it flagged off), every one of them are running some kind of restriction?
The community speaks. The restricted servers are the servers other folks want to race on. You can run on any of the 462 current servers listed, restricted ones and nonrestricted ones. Unfortunately, that's all you'll be doing is running around because there is no one else racing on them.
The bad part about these servers are the fact that they are not new. If you've run on CTRA, then you've already ran through the "beginner" cars and moved up. CTRA is no more, thus someone starts a new set of servers. Now you are back to square one with having to run in a "beginner" car that you may not be interested in. What happens when this current set of servers disappear at the point everyone has moved up to the cars they want to run? Yet another person(s) from the community will start a restricted server and you will again have to run the "beginner" cars.
The community speaks. The restricted servers are the servers other folks want to race on. You can run on any of the 462 current servers listed, restricted ones and nonrestricted ones. Unfortunately, that's all you'll be doing is running around because there is no one else racing on them.
The bad part about these servers are the fact that they are not new. If you've run on CTRA, then you've already ran through the "beginner" cars and moved up. CTRA is no more, thus someone starts a new set of servers. Now you are back to square one with having to run in a "beginner" car that you may not be interested in. What happens when this current set of servers disappear at the point everyone has moved up to the cars they want to run? Yet another person(s) from the community will start a restricted server and you will again have to run the "beginner" cars.
Y2KX or simplify with just 2KX.
I've yet to hear anyone to refer to twenty ten. The year 2000 kind of changed everyone from the "nineteen xx" stuff to using "two thousand xx". That was a significant change going from 1999 to 2000. There's nothing significant about going from 2009 to 2010 like it was back then at the turn of the century (before you all jump in, I know the turn of the century was actually 2001....)
I've yet to hear anyone to refer to twenty ten. The year 2000 kind of changed everyone from the "nineteen xx" stuff to using "two thousand xx". That was a significant change going from 1999 to 2000. There's nothing significant about going from 2009 to 2010 like it was back then at the turn of the century (before you all jump in, I know the turn of the century was actually 2001....)
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Kev was caught on camera with his last fight while playing hockey....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsdfMi7YZ2o
Always good for a chuckle....
(I see it, the 4th result for me...)
I'm with Kev. I only found RSC when I found LFS and used the LFS section there until this forum was created. RSC failed to load with errors more often than allowing one to get on the forum back then in 2005.
If you are running a forum and it's members can't get on it for weeks at a time, why would people continue to support it?
I remember ShannonN.
And I remember Atledreier, whom was named "Maverick" at the time.
I remember GURU, of which I was a member for a short period.
I remember Gimpster from GURU of whom was the 2nd person to give me significant help in LFS. He helped me in learning to drive RWD in LFS. The first to help was Mach1 whom helped me with setting up LFS on my first evenings in the servers of S1 demo (month or 2 before the S2 demo release.)
I remember my on-server name as being "Lousy" and running training sessions with GURU when Atledreier (Maverick) told me I needed to change my name because I wasn't so lousy any more
.I remember trying to listen to Atledreier and Gimpster during those training/practice sessions in GURU on Ventrillo and not understanding anything they said because I was on 56k.
Is the LFS forum the only forum that you frequent? It isn't just the LFS forum. I belong to an RC forum, 2 photography forums, and a few other very active and not so active. Every forum is this way. You join and everything is fresh and new. Then you get use to it, use to seeing the same folks, use to seeing the same answers to the same questions. Then you start to see those folks you use to know disappear and new folks joining. The same old same old now coming from the new folk gets old. After years of internet forums, it is just a cycle that happens, to all active forums.
You guys are sick of seeing the same improvement suggestions and the same questions. Don't you think that the photography forums are sick of seeing the "what is better, Nikon or Canon" questions? Don't you think that the RC flight forums are sick of seeing all the "which airplane should I get as a beginner" questions? They are. Those that are really sick of it leave. In their place are new members who eventually get sick of the same questions and stupidness.
A big difference with the "hobby" of gaming in comparison with other hobbies such as photography or RC is, there are far more kids and far more immaturity in gaming forums than in other hobby forums. When someone asks a stupid question in a photography forum, they just get ridiculed for a few posts. They don't get 3 pages of stupid immature "fail" pictures like that are here. It just shows the age and immaturity of the members, which we have a lot of immaturity here.
Back in the day that TVE is talking about, there wasn't much of a young crowd. It was mostly more mature true sim racers and unfortunately that has veered off on a tangent to include many young and immature gamers as the word of LFS got out.
The FM3 and the GT5 threads are perfect examples of the immaturity of this forum as a whole.
You guys are sick of seeing the same improvement suggestions and the same questions. Don't you think that the photography forums are sick of seeing the "what is better, Nikon or Canon" questions? Don't you think that the RC flight forums are sick of seeing all the "which airplane should I get as a beginner" questions? They are. Those that are really sick of it leave. In their place are new members who eventually get sick of the same questions and stupidness.
A big difference with the "hobby" of gaming in comparison with other hobbies such as photography or RC is, there are far more kids and far more immaturity in gaming forums than in other hobby forums. When someone asks a stupid question in a photography forum, they just get ridiculed for a few posts. They don't get 3 pages of stupid immature "fail" pictures like that are here. It just shows the age and immaturity of the members, which we have a lot of immaturity here.
Back in the day that TVE is talking about, there wasn't much of a young crowd. It was mostly more mature true sim racers and unfortunately that has veered off on a tangent to include many young and immature gamers as the word of LFS got out.
The FM3 and the GT5 threads are perfect examples of the immaturity of this forum as a whole.
I would have gotten that, but instead I am taking the family to Disneyworld next summer for vacation. Perhaps next year.
Not all of us get our gifts from parents. Some of us are the parents....
.... and have great wives.
Since we are now posting pictures.....
Cort G200 and Crate FW15R
Just need to learn how to play the dang thing. Didn't learn anything on the acoustic for the last few years, but wasn't real interested in the acoustic anyways.
PS. Danowat, send me a PM. I'm curious and interested in what RC airplane you've gotten. If I can give you any hints on your first flight, I'll do that...
I have several Floyd stuff, including The Wall, on video cassette. Unfortunately, I no longer have a VCR anywhere.
Both my Pulse CD and the DVD are on the 2nd copy purchased having the CD stolen a long time ago and the DVD inevitably lost by the kids. I started back in the 90s with collecting every album on gold CD back when they did that. I have Dark Side and The Wall on gold CD. And I have every other CD from Floyd from 71 on. I don't have anything other than "A Saucerful of Secrets".
I haven't gotten "On and Island" yet. I do have his older solo stuff, David Gilmour and About Face.
I'm a bit of a Floyd nut, ever since that day when I was 15 and a friend said, "here, smoke this, then listen to this..." which was my first listening of Comfortably Numb. Ran out and bought The Wall the very next day (on cassette, only the rich folks had CD players back then, LOL.)
Nah, I was introduced to David Gilmour's guitar in Comfortably Numb back in 1987. I don't have a working radio in my own car and rarely drive my wife's car, but her 6 disk player is loaded up with 4 Pink Floyd CDs for the rare occasion that I drive it, like today when I ran to town to pick up a guitar amp. I listened to all of Dark Side of the Moon... Comfortably Numb... What Do You Want from Me... Shine on You Crazy Diamond... Hey You... A Great Day for Freedom... and Coming Back to Life.
So, yeah, I've been listening to Floyd for 22 years.
Oh, and I have recently recorded on the DVR, David Gilmour Live in Gdansk... Dark Side of the Moon on VH1's Classics in Concert (from the Pulse DVD)... Dark Side of the Moon on VH1's Classic Albums (documentary'ish)... and the movie The Wall in preparation of hooking up the new home theater system Christmas present tomorrow night.
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