if Kimi's car didn't need repairs then that was stupidity, and self sabotage.

Im sorry, George Carlin is an idiot.

In Australian Money:

A used 1st gen Nissan GT-R

A Race Setup E36 BMW, with trailer

You can tell the Nato has propaganda of some sort with Western media when they have been claiming since day 1 that Russia or Pro-Russia supporters are the reason for this, despite the fact there has been no factual evidence that is was them or Ukraine, and the crash hasn't even been investigated.

Ukraine them selves have the exact weopon used that destroyed the plane yet it's completely ruled out.

I Honestly doubt we will ever get the truth from this or we will but it will conflict with the opposings sides view.

Quote from IsaacPrice :

Motorsport is dangerous, it comes with the territory. RC's role is to determine what is acceptable risk and what isn't. Double Waved yellows should be sufficient because of the description of what it means. You can trip over crossing the road and be in danger. Race control decided it was safe to do what they did without disturbing the race, and nobody was hurt so they weren't too reckless. I'm also pretty sure racing drivers cross the track pretty often under racing situations if the car is broken down etc so don't agree with you there either.

We don't want it going towards a situation where we have more safety cars than we have right now IMO.

Racing drivers when getting out of the car tend to go to nearest wall regardless of what side.

Quote from amp88 :

F1 drivers (and drivers in most feeder series, really) have been trained to expect safety cars in incidents like this over the years, so they've lost a great deal of respect for the flags. If you look at some of the onboards following the spin (when double-waved yellows were being shown), cars are still passing at near racing speed. As I said above, double-waved yellows would be sufficient to recover this car, but only if the drivers respected the flags.

edit: Amazing Reactions by Dino Zamparelli in a Racing Car!!. More like "Dino Zamparelli, the complete twat, ignores several waved yellow flags and nearly plows into the back of the pack".
Pastor Maldonado crashing under red flag

you can't blame the drivers though, the teams will be pressuring them to not lose ground so it ends up a situation where no one is going to slow.

Double waved Yellows should have some kind of speed limit to have any justification otherwise its the same as a yellow tbh.

They should make a rule that if the racing line has to be crossed by the Marshall insta SC.

What if the Marshall trips on a bump in the track and is stuck on the racing line a few more seconds then need be, all kinds of shit could be let loose.

If a Driver was put in that kind of danger it would be a no brainier to change a rule.

Completely unacceptable there was no safety car, double waved yellows means nothing as the driver will still be close to the limit knowing they can't give away time.

These are volunteers they shouldn't have there life at risk like that.

Williams should replace Massa, he is a crash magnet.

Button looks on his way out at Mclaren he would be a good sign just for a season i think before he retires.

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Quote from danielroelofs :

Me. When having 'comparable' cars, I don't believe Vettel has the talent to be in front of Ricciardo, Kimi, Hamilton, Rosberg, Hulkenberg, Bottas, Magnussen & some more.. and for sure not Alonso whom I think is by far the best driver on the grid. Massa even stated (as an ex-teammate of both) that Alonso is faster than Schumacher was. I think on pure speed that could be right, Schumi seemed to have some German organizational awareness though which helped him quite a lot. the right ppl on the right places.

Imo just a bloody shame a driver can't make much of a difference any more as they could. Otherwise I believe Vettel would never have this many titles.

Its not like Vettel was Weak untill he got the RBR drive he did some impressive stuff in that STR, as much as i think the redbull was the best car i still think Vettel is high up. Webber had the measure of every team mate he had gone against untill he met Vettel.

I think Alonso is good and probably the best driver overall but his abilities are overplayed. I think if he was in the mercedes right now he would be having a tough time with either driver.

This year has really shaked the established order quite a bit, Namely Vettel and Raikkonen.

who would of thought Vettel would be outperformed by Ricciardo this year, and tge gap between kimi and Alonso is crazy huge.

Quote from flymike91 :

Where else do militia get guided surface to air missiles.

They don't.

you better hope Russia wasn't involved in this or it could end bad.

heres my Driving test run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCGU2-B6fh0

I binned my first lap(hit too many cones each a 10 sec penalty) so i went aggressive in my final run but I Hit a cone when I went out of shape at the end.

Quote from Intrepid :

TV Viewing figures are down in V8 Supercars. They were suggestions last year anyway. Formula E doesn't have V8s singing either. They are at a natural disadvantage.

To launch a new race series with cars that look and sound terrible is hard enough. For me the gimmicks make sense, I don't LIKE them, but they make sense.

That would be mostly due to the poor Coverage of Channel 7, next year its all changing, besides thats just domestic, internationally its expanding faster then ever.

Quote from Intrepid :

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9725.html

"Karting has a very good training effect,” Schumacher told his official website. “That is why today I just jumped into a testing day of the Tony Kart Team in Lonato (Italy). There is nothing better for my preparations at the moment - in terms of steering wheel forces for example karting is even more difficult than Formula One.”

I can find countless other examples but I can't be bothered. I've seen GT drivers struggle with driving karts physically after 10 minutes, I've never ever seen a karter struggle getting to grips with any race car from a fitness standpoint - sprint race or endurance. It's not who is fittest because it's mainly conditioning we're talking about here.

I am not saying you shouldn't BE fit to do GT racing, just that fitness required FOR GT racing isn't that high. Certainly not so high your average Joe with a bit of training couldn't get to.

Just the severity of the fitness tests for such an early stage of a competition, I am not sure if it's that productive or worth while.

When it comes to tge Final week at silverstone its mainly used as a decider if two or more drivers are at the same level(going by what i've been told by other finalists that made it). But in the early stages its used to weed down the list of people to make the final 6.

Quote from amp88 :

[citation needed]

That would be easily true on any competition level kart.

however the Race lengths are on opposite extremes so the type of fitness would be like sprint vs marathon.

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They where basically looking for someone who could do 10 atleast in the beep test which the way i see it seems like a decent level to then inprove with the additional 3 month fitness program they will put you on afterwards.

Afterwards the race they put you in is the Dubai 24hour which probably the hottest 24 hour race done in a given year in a production based 370Z GT4 Class Race car.

Im pretty content in knowing i wasn't at the level this year, knowing whats ahead, im probably a good 15kg overweight and i would be about average cardio fitness so i would probably be quite a bit off the 'basic' level they were looking for.

I would really suggest giving this competition a go if you haven't before, you will have a blast regardless we spent most of our time in the Nismo HQ where the V8 Supercar team is based and we where with the Drivers most of the time getting tips and so on.

Todd Kelly was even our Bus Driver for the Weekend quite amusing really lol.

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Yeah i feel as if fitness was very heavily weighed in it too much, it is something that can be improved.
I guess it has something to do with the whole ''Nismo Athlete'' thing they are promoting.

I think this competition overall was a good experience and I can always do it next year with more knowledge on what is required.

The driving was very rushed(you got two timed goes around a 25 second Auto X layout in a 370Z), but i understand why as there was limited time to weed out the players and then there is a more rigorous stage at silverstone.

The Australian Competition is extremely competitive because we have been waiting a very long time for the Academy so we had some serious guys in this time(one of the guys a highly regarded Iracing player beat the pros time by around the AutoX by a second), i would expect the Australian winner to be the international Winner.

Ill be working on My Fitness and aim for 12 plus in the beep test for next time, I worked hard on my fitness but I was soo unfit when i started that i would of needed a few more months to get to the right level, and get some experience in Autocross which I really should of done before hand(i mainly focused on track days and karting).

Last edited by Mustafur, Sun 13 Jul 2014, 16:53.

Didn't make it, my Day 2 went terrible and was off it for basically the whole thing.

At the end of the day it came down to fitness atleast for me, in the first stage gaming i did really well despite red lapping the 3rd round(came 1st in the 1st round and 3rd in the second), the fitness i went to my maximum and got a 8.7 but that took the life out of me, only managed 12 pushups then 1min 36 on the plank.

after that fitness i could barely talk i was soo stuffed, as soon as i got to my hotel and had a shower i basically passed out, only to wake up half an hour after the bus left(so basically 10 hours sleep lol), when i saw the time i thought i had stuffed it and knew there was no point being too angry as the damage was done, i knew that phillip island wasn't until 10am so i called a taxi got the address and managed to make it just in time to get my two last gaming rounds done, i was well off the pace for both as i was still waking up and wasn't focused enough.

then when we went to phillip island we had the media test and driving. I did okay on the media test, nothing bad or anything but in the driving i blew it. the clutch is soo much different to my Astra and could never get a hang of it, and on my last run which was going good untill i had a massive drift moment right at the end and hit two cones.

the Fitness test at the end of the day compromised my day 2 as i was still effected by it and my concentration was all over the place from it.
it shows badly that all the guys that got over 10 in the Beep test all made it to Silverstone, fitness is vital to keep your focus.

Currentely finished day 1 of the event, would of averaged first in the gaming stage if I didn't bin the last round.

Fitness I was lacking a bit and would be around middle.

Real driving and media tommorow is where I should make up ground and make the top 6 for silverstone.

Quote from TexasLTU :

Still waiting when Raikkonen will do an amazing comeback and kick everyone arses, especially Alonsos.

Not gonna happen, alonso is in a territory that kimi will never reach.

Another race and another Vettel flogging, ricciardo has Vettel rattled.

Got to say im liking how good williams are doing lately, its gpod for f1 to.see them bounce back from some horrible seasons.

Quote from danielroelofs :

pff... first you are saying this (which?) theorie is stupid and somehow you think to have to knowledge to know it is (which?). And for the rest you are confirming everything I say or about the news articles I posten which aren't by definition my opinion.



I know, why you repeat what i said?



Vague answer.. You don't get the point and besides they dont have the intention to perform less with one driver. who said that? Are u an imported one in Australia from a non English speaking country or what? And besides that Red Bull has used illegal stuff are not theories anymore.. but I like you to do some research yourself. Maybe this was a useless answer but I really can't do much more with such a vague post.


There might be some truth but honestly you can not see it happen. wow Very clear! But thanks again for repeating what I stated through a news message.

Clearly end of discussion with you.

Hey I just said it how it is, if a driver Is made to be worse then another driver they will clearly speak up(because your not smart enough to understand which point im talking about its the JV theory) and that's what you said and that's how I responded to your stupidity.

Don't play the intelligence game when your tin foil hat is showing.

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Quote from danielroelofs :

I don't think Webber was a bad driver. But I do think that those two cars weren't comparable. Besides it is fairly well known by now that Red Bull used quite some 'illegal' stuff on their car. Perhaps they were mostly or only used by vettel to avoid it being obvious when two cars drive around with exactly the same characteristics?

Jacques Villeneuve had an interesting opinion about they way Red Bull is treating Vettel now. He said Red Bull is trying to kill Vettel because he is not good for Red Bull's image. For the Dutchies: Red Bull killing Vettel.
Now i'm not trying to present this as a factual thing. But as I just graduated as a Marketing management specialist, and knowing/seeing how much red Bull leans on marketing, I regard this as possible.

Quite contradictive to my previous statement.. although I keep on saying.. Vettel is nothing special. It's a killer but.. If Hamilton, Alonso, Raikkonen, Hulkenberg would have been in a car with the same capabilities... I'm pretty sure Vettel would not even have a small chance to get 4th position in the championship. It has only been the car why he became champion. And Ricciardo is showing this in a lovely way

Not to say this theory is stupid(because it very much is) you got to think this from Vettels point of view, Vettel has had alot of reliabilty issues yes, but he has also been outperformed when there has been no issues as well.

Also if a driver was made to perform less then a team mate im prrtty sure they would be getting public about it as it would be clear they wouldn't want to stick around long.

There might be some truth if Vettel leaves next year and leaves in a hostile manner but i honestly can't seeing this happen.

I think its just unlucky reliabilty combined with being outperformed.