Multiplayer -> Display list of games? :-'

[23:53] <Slopi> +1 this pls

But it is still a good suggestion, not of the upmost importance. Still something that has bugged me occasionally though.

For some reason hitting this curb in the fo8 and maybe some other cars damages the lower control arm. (Curb is the exit of the final corner in so town/long/classic reversed.) I know curbing can hurt a car, but this curb doesn't even go above the bevel of the tire so I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to damage it. (It's not much damage, but it's lca damage so it's enough to make the car miserable to drive.)

/Edit - Forgot to check when the actual damage is happening, it's not when you go up on the curb, it's when you come off of it. o.O

/Very late edit - I think it's happening when you go up on it, forgot I was watching an mpr.

Last edited by rcpilot, Sat 30 Jun 2007, 03:51.

Quote from deggis :

I played LFS in year 3027.

I bet the post-apocalyptic cavemen were impressed.

Most of the time I'm pretty careful by now, but I still push a little too hard occasionally. Usually it's in a situation where I'll only catch someone by the last lap for the lead, besides that I've just grown used to managing my pace. (Can drive anywhere from .3s/minute+ off my pb consistently, so it works out pretty well.) Usually in that situation I'll throw reason out the window and start attempting to drive beyond what I know to be the limit which is never a good idea in a race (normally I NEVER try something new during the race unless I did it accidentally the first time and it worked out).

I have found while league racing though that I'll get completely shaken up worrying about the future consequences of my actions when I take someone off the road and it's potentially/is my fault. If I don't catch myself and put it out of my mind I'll start almost taking myself out too from loss of focus.

Last edited by rcpilot, Mon 25 Jun 2007, 14:39.

It would definitely be nice to have some type of setup browser with a filter. I've been racing in the LOTA fo8 league and I have an ungodly amount of fo8 setups from having to develop setups for most of the tracks.

Me on my first flying lap of qualifying for the last LOTA race at fern bay gold rev.

Feature wise, racing in rain etc., but my biggest thing would be physics in the area of collision detection and along with that just more complete damage modelling in general. (I'm guilty of saving myself many times by going straight into a wall to save my suspension and I still want a more complete damage model. )

We just raced WEI rev in the fo8 challenge series and I'd have to say that's the hardest we've done so far going a realistic race distance after a pretty reasonable selection of tracks. (Harder than SO Long or FE Black were last season because of having a hard time finding a good compromise of a set with too many high speed rights burning up the front left tire and going just beyond a reasonable tire temp running r2's no matter what I tried)

Last edited by rcpilot, Sat 17 Feb 2007, 00:32.

Quote from mcintyrej :

I gave it a quick shot, what i did was made a new layer, then filled the whole picture with a bright orange shade like this one. The I changed the layer style to Overlay and took the opacity right down to around 15-20%. Then i grabbed the original layer with the picture on it and lowered the saturation on the picture slightly, all of that gives it that slight sepia/sun glow effect which looks real. Also i added a shine mark down the right side of your car's nose. Which again added to the sunglow. To me it does now look more realistic, but thats me. You like it? Oh, i added a higher contrast one in there aswel. Simply because i love higher contrast on a picture.

Well, the first one has taken the place of my photoshop as my background. The higher contrast one makes some of the artifacting in the textures show pretty sharply. Seeing these reminds me that I really should work on my own helmet design though, maybe mimic my cheapo HJC auto-x'ing helmet except the design on it is pretty complicated and would be a bitch to line up right.

Last edited by rcpilot, Wed 27 Dec 2006, 18:07.

GO GO GO LX6. But I'll pretty much happily drive anything that isn't fwd. One of my criteria for buying my car IRL was that it had to be rwd, just prefer the balance as you're going through a corner of having the rears be driven and the fronts steer. (Can be a little hairy in the winter though )

Not sure what a US plate would look like considering each state has their own plate.

EVERYTHING :elefant:

I use a joystick and I try to keep my posture in a good position regardless because it helps keep my concentration levels up. But although I'm fine just going around practicing a full race distance (45 minute league races recently) if I need to make sure my tires will be ok, after the actual race I'll find that my right hand is so cramped up it hurts to move it for the next minute or so because of how tense I get in the real race.

Quote from Mister2zx3 :

So it's just wear, no damage. I thought I had blown them and yeah thinking back it was from doing a lot of silly sliding and burnouts/donuts. Temp is very noticabale ( F9 - but its there anythign out there to explain the numbers on this display? - Ahhh THanks - http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/D ... Tyre_temperature_.26_wear ) I mostly run the GT car with slicks, but haven't been running more than about 10 or so laps and haven't over heated them or over worn them when lapping clean.

They do seam to be unrealistic in the time it takes to get the up to temp, seams to usually take on average 2-3 laps. maybe it's just I'm used to ambiant 100'F and much hotter track temps 130'F in real life and these virtual courses are probably considerably cooler? 60'F? is the track surface temperature modeled? Is that maybe why it takes so long? the effect of sunning heating up the tarmac beyond ambiant isn't there to conduct heat? just the air convection?

Depends on your driving and setup, my tires normally heat up within a lap when I'm driving on slicks, but I've noticed generally I push a lot harder than other people do on cold tires and normally gain about a second in the first lap compared to normal lap times. (Helps that I usually try to get a practice lap in on cold tires before the start of the race.) And I have blown out a tire because of repeated locking up before, you just need a realistic race length to do it in. Blew it out after 27 laps iirc of driving the RAC around aston club reverse, now I pay much more attention to how much I'm locking up single tires around the track.

Quote from sinbad :

Depends how far in front you are I suppose, but you're allowed to zig, or zag, but not zig-zag. You can also zig, and then zig again too, assuming it's safe to

I thought the one-move rule was fairly common knowledge, it's what I've always driven to anyway, and if you do some searching you'll find lots, lots, of real racers who do the same.

I always laugh when someone starts zig-zag'ing to avoid a tow and I just sit in one spot and watch as they slowly move back towards me because of bleeding off speed by covering more distance than they had to and tire scrub.

Quote from sinbad :

At Kev:
It's the one move rule. If he moved from the line to defend the inside line, he cannot move back across to the other side again. It would be his fault entirely.
It's something of a grey area when you consider the racing line might be a diagonal from lefthandside of the track out of a right hander to righthandside for the next left hander, and if you know or expect someone ahead of you might follow that line then I guess you should be prepared to lift (and duck to the inside and lunge into the next corner )

That said I tend to place all blame for accidents on straight sections of road on the one that changed his line/swerved/moved across the track and I also really hate when people who move (as they are entitled to) to defend the inside ignore the one-defensive-move rule and swerve back to block the outside really late, whilst I brake later on the outside line (as I am entitled to), and then they complain if they get tapped from behind.

Under most rules I've seen you're allowed to block getting back on the racing line.

Quote from tristancliffe :

What is it with Americans and swearing recently. The number of people here saying 'shoot the shit' or similar is just shocking, and is a great indicator of the decline of intelligence.

Please, please learn a slightly more gifted way of explaining what you mean, rather than resulting to rude, often offensive, slangy terms.

To my mind shooting shit involved a pile of poo and a gun, but I guess you meant some form of discussion...

Dr Tristan calculates you have an IQ of 5.4

I don't even think about it when someone says it, and shit's almost not a swear word in the US anymore. Cultural differences. Half of my teachers back in high school wouldn't care if anyone said it, but all the other words are still very naughty. EX- South Park episode that abused the fact that the FCC had removed shit from their list of censored words.

Quote from TagForce :

If someone is slower than I am, I make it a point to avoid touching them. Like earlier I was racing Danowat, and he was consistently braking 10 meters too early for my style. Gave him some lovetaps on the first lap, but after that it was anywhere between 5 to 30 cm between us on hard braking. Never touching. We could do that because we were both very consistent in our braking marks and turn in points. I would've regretted it very much if we had touched and crashed because I wasn't in control enough (in the end we wrecked because on SO3, there is no room for error, and the wall is unforgiving, neither of us at fault, just one of them racing deals). Best chase I've had in a loooong time.

However, if I'm behind someone that is consistently slower than I am, being an absolute b**tch about defending his/her spot to the point I'm the only one trying not to crash it seems, there may come a point where I'm less inclined to screw up my front tires trying to miss him/her. If it was a calculated move on the other's side I'd have some respect for it. Like, when I dive down the inside for the 5th time on the brakes for the same turn, you'd think someone would block the inside before I had time to go there and make me take the long way around, but they amazingly only move offline when my nose is already at their rear wheel, making me do all kinds of crazy things to keep them from wrecking themselves. In THOSE cases, I'm not sorry one bit if I spin someone out. There's an art to overtaking, but the same goes for defending your spot.

I think everyone has had these situations where overtaking someone becomes the single most important thing in the world after you've been stuck behind them for 90% of the race. Stuff like this happens in real racing too. They get a good scuffing from the FIA (if you're Schumacher) or a fine (if you're Alonso), or get suspended because you do this stuff all the time (if you're Montoya). The difference between them and us is that we would be hard pressed to kill someone in LFS.

I think (hope) that that's what Flippy is describing.

Aye, diving towards the apex when someone's already slightly alongside you is not blocking, it's just a good way to get yourself taken out. Passing and blocking should be like a chess game where you think several moves ahead and attempt to outsmart the other guy. Not, "Oh crap, he has a chance to pass me! I better shoot towards the inside and hope nothing bad happens!" Took someone out earlier on the STCC server when I was just trying to rattle his cage by moving to the inside while right behind him, he brakes a little too early and I try to brake with him to no avail to avoid a dive bombing pass in a bad area and end up braking at the limit just barely ahead of his rear bumper. He ignores my presence and goes straight for the apex and spins himself out on my front bumper and proceeds to call me a wrecker after I had already waited for him to get back on his feet and drive by admitting partial fault in the accident.

Last edited by rcpilot, Tue 19 Dec 2006, 15:51.

+1 One of the issues with the first running of the LOTA series has been how to classify non-finishers. (disconnections or crashed out etc.) It would probably make that aspect of the final points tally a lot easier for leagues out there. Would mean that in order to be qualified better for a pick-up race though you'd have to wait until the current race was over to leave the pits after getting knocked out, which would lead to some confusion.

+1 I'd also like to see this implemented, considering people have wanted to attempt single setup races before. But the main issue is that people have drastically different driving styles. I've had situations where a teammate's set may be able to get them close to my times, but when I try it out I can't get it within a second of their time and vice versa for them, so you may not really be testing out a driver's skill.

Yeah, I had some issues on the STCC server with people deciding that it's all right to bump you off line when you're completely alongside them. Makes it really frustrating when it happens almost every single lap as you repeatedly lose a second and then catch up to a slower a-hole who thinks that bumping you into the grass and dirt is proper race position protection.

On topic, I don't have a sorry bind, and if I'm clearly at fault a 'sry' pops out of me asap, and if it's a really bad accident that I caused it's an additional 'omg I don't know wtf I was doing there but it was all my fault' at the end of the race.

Took another stab at a similar screenshot to the one I posted in the 'edit my pic' thread. (Tried to reproduce the same one, but updated my team skin this time to the more interesting looking one that we started using the race after the one in the pic.)

/Edit - Updated it, went over some areas that anti-aliasing couldn't save with the smudge brush and then did a general resize back/forth smoothing for the areas that the smudge brush would ruin the overall quality and to remove the slight artifacting in the background that the lens blur caused.

Last edited by rcpilot, Sun 17 Dec 2006, 20:42.

Quote from brilliantblackattack :

All i can do is ask.. can we have some kind kitcar like the Radical Sr3 http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/. Or westfield xtr? http://www.westfield-sportscar ... =19&lid=17&tlid=3 or maybe some LMP type car . also can we have the MRTs true horsepower? i dont know what it takes to make these cars for LFS but i appreciate you guys taking input from the users thanks.

True horsepower as in it's listed somewhere differently or do you think the MRT's supposed to have a lot more power? Those cars run through a 20 mm restrictor iirc so they don't generate much power relative to what they could do optimally. And F/SAE teams like to throw around their hp figures at the flywheel from my experience, and LFS probably lists hp at the wheels. (Team I was involved in would constantly talk about 80 hp, 50 hp at the wheels. )

I can use photoshop and create reasonable results, but after looking around here I'm wondering what someone else can do with this screenshot. (Want to use it as my BG.) My attempt involved trying to make it look photorealistic, but I'm just not that familiar with that aspect of photoshop. (Shot is me protecting my lead at the start of the LOTA league sprint race at SO Long going around the outside using every inch of room I could.)

/Edit - http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=288709#post288709 for what I did to it, still wondering what someone with more experience can do if they've got time.

Last edited by rcpilot, Sun 17 Dec 2006, 12:48.