Could be true, but the weight distribution itself is the important factor. And the FZR has a pretty much spot on optimal weight distribution for a touring car with the changes of the last patch. (Before it was a bit too ass heavy.) With a half tank of gas it's running around 60% rear now iirc.
From the GT series.
Just means mid-engined.A lot of leagues dropped any sort of extra balancing between the cars and it was a pretty bad decision IMO. Patch Z didn't really change the status quo at all, and now the XRR's just that little bit slower relatively. It can be competitive with the FZR on some tracks (places like westhill that are dominated by smooth sweeping corners), but it doesn't really have any tracks to its advantage anymore, just disadvantages and equivalencies vs. the FZR. (And I have a fair amount of endurance experience in both.) I'm really looking forward to taking the FZR to south city long for MoE after getting reamed there in the XRR in IGTC. The XRR just doesn't have the ability to put its power down as well from slower corners or over bumps and racing my ass off just to keep up with an FZR that's barely pushing gets quite annoying.
The MR + NA combo is really a double whammy when it comes to tracks where traction is key, and the FZR's ability to get away with some crazy stuff over curbing helps massively elsewhere. While the XRR's advantage of stintability isn't all that great TBH. It carries less fuel which gives it a couple tenths extra early on, but it can't really run its tires more than a couple percent longer normally. And now that people are used to the new shift dynamics having the gated gearbox in the FZR isn't really a hindrance anymore at most tracks. They're fairly well matched in top end now at least, and the XRR still has a slight advantage in some high speed corners, but a similar advantage at a slower corner (which the FZR almost always has) tends to be worth a lot more.
The MR + NA combo is really a double whammy when it comes to tracks where traction is key, and the FZR's ability to get away with some crazy stuff over curbing helps massively elsewhere. While the XRR's advantage of stintability isn't all that great TBH. It carries less fuel which gives it a couple tenths extra early on, but it can't really run its tires more than a couple percent longer normally. And now that people are used to the new shift dynamics having the gated gearbox in the FZR isn't really a hindrance anymore at most tracks. They're fairly well matched in top end now at least, and the XRR still has a slight advantage in some high speed corners, but a similar advantage at a slower corner (which the FZR almost always has) tends to be worth a lot more.
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Aye, if anything VHPA's just a great setup aid, but it won't create your setup for you. I use it for things like quickly adjusting a set around a new weight distribution if we're running ballasted so I can test several different weight distributions in minimal time, or for making all relevant adjustments when I need to make a basic adjustment like springs where one change will have an effect on most of your other settings. It's also good for people like me that suck at damper tuning as a visual aid as to 'when I do this, this will happen.'
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A neutral car is only perfect doing circles at a steady speed around a skid pad. Everything else is about compromise and a bit of personal preference.
I regularly race with WR holders past and present and I'd love it if they just crashed out everywhere. But, sadly they keep it going for 1-2 hours.
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Not saying midrace joining itself is bad, but please for the love of god stay completely out of the way. You have no rights on track joining several laps into a short race, and you definitely don't have the right to jump out of the pit lane right in front of me.
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Strategical choices that are irreversible now? AFAIK strategy usually wraps around going as fast as possible within the situation presented to you, and that situation wouldn't have changed no matter how the first race was cut off. And I'd like to know where you got the official word that this method would be used to combine the two results. Especially considering the official word I heard went in all different directions and was unsure of even where the first part of the race would be cut off when the race was still running. (If I still had the #igtc logs I could show you DWB discussing after the race ended that they were unsure of how they were combining the two results but they had a probable solution, and it wasn't what you mentioned which kinda flies in the face of all this.)
Fact is, no one is going to be happy any way the first part of the race is cut off. There is no fair option, there is however an option that allows us to maintain some semblance of sanity with regards to adminning now and running in the race later if this situation happens again.
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I'm not saying it will be easy and I'm not claiming to understand all the variables behind it. But... you have two realistic options as to reducing costs. Either turn F1 into a completely spec series, or implement a budget cap. Any other 'in between' and the teams will just shift their massive budgets around to make the best out of whatever advantage they can improve on, and nothing will change. Very basic logic, but pretty infallible, and I'm pretty sure the fans of F1 do not want to see a spec series or else we wouldn't be watching F1.
How hard is it to just simply put a budget cap on teams instead of doing things year in and year out that hurt the sport itself and do nothing to alleviate spending? (When even the 'simplest' person could tell you why these ideas won't work.) These aristocrats don't have their heads screwed on right.
I didn't go after the lapped guy who spun and took me out pretty much destroying our race at Westhill (and spdo didn't go after our #2 car here after they slipped up and took spdo out in the process as I was trying to get around). Once someone makes a mistake, as long as they're out of control, there's not much they can do about it. Now, if they were doing something utterly stupid and happened to run into you because they tried to brake way too late/went well off track trying to get around you and slipped up there'd be a case here. As it is, all I see is a bit of bad luck and a racing incident.
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You don't think Massa might've liked a chance to come back through the field and get some points back? You don't think losing the clothes off of your back because of some completely incompetent pit work and then getting penalized for it hurts? As long as we have regular rotations of stewards and an unclear rule book, there will be inconsistencies. I don't know why people don't realize this, especially anyone who competes in leagues in LFS. Handing out a penalty is almost never a cut and dry thing in racing.
I was getting massive accordianing from 7-11 spots back (depending on the start), I can only imagine what people further back were getting because of this. The rules are meant to avoid people attempting to do this on purpose, you can't really blame someone for being in the middle of an accordian when the flag drops. It also goes the other way too where I've been caught in the middle of braking for an accordian and been jumped when the flag drops by people who were just physically carrying more speed behind me trying to catch up when the green came out.
You can however say that people need to be a LOT more gentle on the brakes/throttle when we're under safety car conditions. I was ignoring the rapidly changing pace of the guy in front (driving like a road car with the brakes/gas) before the safety car peeled off and it was a massive aid to the people behind me in the field. But in the interests of not falling away from the guy in front of me at the start I was forced to join the rapid accordian on the final S/F straight. If everyone applied these rather basic principles though right up to the green flag things would be loads fairer and cleaner during our starts and restarts.
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I had no intention of passing until I caught up to you heavily under normal braking and you seemed to be going wide. I interpreted this as an invitation to pass or just simply a reasonable opening considering the circumstances and tried to take it. By the time I realized my opening was gone I barely managed to tap the brakes before tapping you. The rest was my trying to get out of the quagmire as quickly as possible when I realized you weren't going to be able to hold it, I still had velocity going in the direction of the unblocked track, and there were cars coming.
/Edit - Just viewed the replay and hadn't read the 3rd page, DWB kinda said it for me.
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Feel like singing linkin park and cutting myself watching this.
Tried so hard, and got so far...
Tried so hard, and got so far...
It's quite normal to take as much as the curb as you can/is allowed. (Although in LFS this is taken to an extreme.) Those little hops can save you ~.3 per which is a lot when you're fighting for every last little bit. I don't think this is something you can really blame the users for and say "you're doing it wrong." Considering we're doing everything we can to be competitive with the situation handed us. Really need suspension breakage/proper undertray df modeling to get rid of our huge curb hopping tendencies.
Forgot to check this with so much else going on. #37 drives way wide and runs #01 off the road lap 9 during a re-pass attempt by #01 around the outside in the entrance to the oval sweeper.
1. I didn't inadvertantly take any spots, I passed no cars that were on track and made no attempts to block traffic while this went on.
2. Because I was nice about the contact, the overall effect of the contact was me being in a spot I otherwise wouldn't have and getting spun out by someone who had lost it a car width away from me.
I thought penalties were to penalize advantages gained from at fault incidents, put a team on an even keel with someone they disadvantaged. But I guess they're just arbitrary.
/Edit - Oh well, I've said my piece, no way to fix this as usual anyway.
What!?
I know I was the cause of the slide, but I stopped, intentionally, and gave him the lead, while he recovered and lost 1 or 2 positions, and I then proceeded to get wacked by an out of control car and REALLY spun because of the fact that I backed off and followed behind him. I'm sorry, but that's just BS in my book.
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If you suddenly lost gravity you'd go flying off in whatever vector you were currently rotating along the earth at. Like swinging something attached to a string over your head and the string suddenly snaps. This vector being the perpendicular line relative to you and the rotational axis of the earth pointing in the direction of the earth's rotation. AKA you still maintain whatever momentum you had, but now you don't have the aid of earth's gravity pulling you back towards the ground. Basic circular motion and one of the rudimentary things you learn in physics, why you're not getting very productive answers. :P
I tried... but then I got yelled at because someone else ran into me and apparently that's all my fault. :-' Apparently the situation was too tense, so you're not supposed to race then?
Reason I was given, was no way at fault for the contact and the normal oval racing group agreed, but you'd get laughed out of a normal LFS server with the attitude and reason for it they gave me after I got hit. (Besides having a strange definition of tense, 3 wide on an oval with no braking points is not tense, could even call it slightly relaxing compared to what I've seen, 3 wide into the first corner of KY national is tense.)And OP, haven't read the entire thread so it might've been covered... Do you still have full control over both arms/hands? If so, just use a joystick. Full proportional control on all axes.
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I found a bit of ballast to play with nice in the LOTA GTC series. (Season performance ballasting) Get to have a little say in the weight distribution of the car on a track by track basis, it improved the handling of the FZR a lot back then but I had about 120 kg to play with. (And the FZR was way too far back in its weight distribution in the first place even for a good MR setup, and is still a little too far back from my experience.) Could actually gain a few tenths back and partially negate the damage dealt by having the ballast.
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On the subject of finding sponsorships, our f/sae team (think mrt5) was able to wrangle up $20k in sponsorship on top of the $10k from the school, and our car would basically never be getting any media exposure. So it's not really unheard of to be able to scrape money from businesses. (A lot of you are forgetting multiple sponsor sources it seems.)
I agree that $200k would be a fair bit harder, but then you actually have something tangible to offer the sponsors. :P
I agree that $200k would be a fair bit harder, but then you actually have something tangible to offer the sponsors. :P
While on the subject of messed up rules:
2.1) Events start at 19:00 UTC with a 30 minute qualifying session.
2.1) Events start at 19:00 UTC with a 30 minute qualifying session.
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