Yep, although I'm afraid it's nothing new - it's been known from the start of S2 that some car models weren't finalised. You can tell by looking at the likes of the RB4 and UF1 that they're not modelled to the same standard as the recent cars - there's some very low poly surfaces and awkward bends in panels where there would ideally be smooth curves, etc.
In a word, no.
LFS is already doing just grand in terms of attracting illiterate 12 year olds dat carnt spel and spray spam everywhere like an elephant sprays shit after a vindaloo. It doesn't need any encouragement from the hellhole that is Bebo.
What were you expecting to happen? the computers to blow up?
Besides, if the devs did post about it, nobody would be able to find it amongst all your spam.
Besides, if the devs did post about it, nobody would be able to find it amongst all your spam.
I hate things like that. Is there really a need for them? Even the Focus S-Max thingy comes with an automatic handbrake as standard. How frikkin hard is it to operate a handbrake? Same goes for lights and wipers. If you can't remember to turn your lights on, you shouldn't be on the road in the first place.
Is it not normal to finish the washing up before climbing onto the bench to pose for pictures?
Wasn't by the dad of any chav ricers here, was it?
Cheers - all done now and updated above, including removing the errant tag over Osa's face.
There's a good reason for me staying on th eother side of the camera.
Cheers.
Can't find Andrew L's LFS name though.Here's most of the others done. Hope it's correct, let me know any changes.
Vic said at the karting that Intel was there too with their LFS simulators, and, err, another company which embarrassingly escapes me right now. But yes, in total there were three separate organisations/representations of LFS at the conference.
Yeah I can zip em up, just looking for somewhere to host it that continues to give me control over it.
I take it for the purposes of labelling people? I've already started to do that yesterday, and got most people done but embarassingly got stuck when it came to a lot of the [SR] team - sorry guys!
I forgot to mention that when we were at the pub afterwards, Victor showed us a couple of photos & videos he took from the Games Convention, which looked quite cool. Thanks Victor, although I bet you had LFS installed on there too with the Scirocco in.
Thanks to Ben for organising it all. It all went very smoothly, which is a credit when you consider how far some people had come and all the different travelling/sleeping/arrival/departure combinations!
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So you borrowed a keyboard from work? w00t. Rock'n'roll.
A view of the karting venue - great place, well run, and the drivers all said the track was good.
The trophies
In third place, is Jason.
In second place, it's the big man himself, Victor.
And the overall winner? Thomas, by a massive 40 seconds! (For comparison, the next forty seconds covered everyone else that finished on the lead lap...)
The "podium":
A good day had by all:
The trophies
In third place, is Jason.
In second place, it's the big man himself, Victor.
And the overall winner? Thomas, by a massive 40 seconds! (For comparison, the next forty seconds covered everyone else that finished on the lead lap...)
The "podium":
A good day had by all:
Photos
Ok, here's what happened...
Everyone lined up in the pits as the race boss shouts his final reminders.
Then everyone went out for a few minutes practice before the qualifying session starts.
Some people were more focussed on the racing than others!
It's only practice but that didn't stop it being competitive...
I tried taking some good panning shots, which is bloody hard. I also soon realised it was fairly pointless, because from the side you can't tell who it is as everyone had identical suits and helmets, with only the kart number for identification. Except for Becky, who had her own racing gear and was easily identifiable in red.
Can't remember who this is... who was it that went off-roading at start of the practice session?
Reducing drag, but looking at the camera rather than the track...
End of qualifying
At the end of the qualifying session, the karts were returned to the pits and the drivers had a 10 minute break to prepare for the main race.
The Race
The race had a rolling start. Here is everyone on the roll-out lap.
Onto the start/finish straight, and the lights go green!
On the run down to T1.
The end of the first lap. IIRC, I think Thomas (#16) is in the lead, not Jason (#15).
The following are all general shots from the first third of the race.
The following photos are all from the final half/two thirds of the race, when I walked back down to the final corner leading onto the s/f straight.
Everyone lined up in the pits as the race boss shouts his final reminders.
Then everyone went out for a few minutes practice before the qualifying session starts.
Some people were more focussed on the racing than others!
It's only practice but that didn't stop it being competitive...
I tried taking some good panning shots, which is bloody hard. I also soon realised it was fairly pointless, because from the side you can't tell who it is as everyone had identical suits and helmets, with only the kart number for identification. Except for Becky, who had her own racing gear and was easily identifiable in red.
Can't remember who this is... who was it that went off-roading at start of the practice session?
Reducing drag, but looking at the camera rather than the track...
End of qualifying
At the end of the qualifying session, the karts were returned to the pits and the drivers had a 10 minute break to prepare for the main race.
The Race
The race had a rolling start. Here is everyone on the roll-out lap.
Onto the start/finish straight, and the lights go green!
On the run down to T1.
The end of the first lap. IIRC, I think Thomas (#16) is in the lead, not Jason (#15).
The following are all general shots from the first third of the race.
The following photos are all from the final half/two thirds of the race, when I walked back down to the final corner leading onto the s/f straight.
Yup, just got back too and am copying over about 400 photos onto my computer. Grabbing a bite to eat, a coffee, then popping into town for a couple of beers. Bit skint though, not got much cash. 
I'll post a new topic tomorrow (this one is long enough) with the pics and for chat after the event.
I'll post a new topic tomorrow (this one is long enough) with the pics and for chat after the event.
Ooh yeah, cameras... better pack my camera bag. Oops. Been too busy laughing at the "sport" of synchronisd swimming on the telly. I'll probably get to the pub between 12:30 and 1 (ish).
I guess you missed the part where he said it was a diesel that he learnt on.
Charming, isn't it? Someone's showing their true colours today...
I dunno. You registered in Sept 2007. Does it take a year to evaluate a demonstration product to decide if you like it? Must be a thorough evaluation.
Of course, my "freeloader" reference wasn't an insult against demoers in principle - just those long-term demo players who have zero intention of buying LFS but still expect to be taken seriously when asking for new features, improvements, cars, tracks, or the XRT back in the demo.
Agreed, there's no harm in LFS being flexible. Isn't that open-ness what helped make LFS so popular from the very early days? And if people want to go skidding or cruising, let them. But sometimes I wonder whether the people who enjoy these alternative uses of LFS are starting to get more demanding or more vocal about what they want LFS to be, and somewhere along the line they've started to think that LFS in an "online car simulator" when in fact it's an "online racing simulator". And at some point the core product, i.e. racing in LFS, begins to become diluted and, within the community at least, the focus of the game gets called into question.
I don't think LFS should focus on one particular aspect of racing (eg low end formula), it should continue it's aim to support and feature as many genres of cars and types of racing as possible. But what it should also do, imho, is take a few subtle steps to re-emphasise that the product is about racing, and anything else is just an unintended spin-off.
Every frikkin topic here fails these days, especially if there's something worth discussing. Not referring to this topic specifically, but it seems it's impossible to discuss anything of value without being snowed under by the volume of idiotic comments and worthless spam, usually from n00bs or freeloaders (i.e. permanent demo players), or the ten year old cRuIsErS, or other people that dispense make-believe as solid fact whether it be in relation to LFS development, PC advice, real cars, the list goes on.
This topic has already received 10 replies, and not one of them is to do with the subject at hand.
So, on topic: Yes, it is time for LFS to focus. The abuse of LFS to go drifting and cruising probably does tarnish it's name and reputation as a "serious" race sim, especially when it already suffers from a lack of respect from rival sim-racing communities due to the fictitious cars.
How? A realistic damage model would, surely, refocus LFS on what it's all about - racing, in any form or format. I'm talking real-life realism and tolerances to damage - you smash the radiator, your race is over unless you can get back to the pits almost straight away. LFS would benefit greatly from what I call "race procedural" improvements - making race procedures happen without the need for a willing coder to make use of insim. Things like rolling starts, safety car, qualifying and racing happening at pre-determined hours, more realistic on-track marshalling, and so on.
None of us know for sure what Scawen has planned for the next patch, but this kind of hard-core stuff that helps with the racing immersion is something that would help refocus LFS.
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Don't be silly, you can't corner in those things.
I take it you haven't heard the rumours about the Trabant, though.
Well, the topic title is certainly the biggest fail on this forum for a while.
As for Russia, they never have cared what NATO thinks. So there's nothing new there. Of course Russia is now rolling in oil and gas money, and NATO has diluted itself by expanding too much, so things will undoubtedly be, umm, interesting.
As for Russia, they never have cared what NATO thinks. So there's nothing new there. Of course Russia is now rolling in oil and gas money, and NATO has diluted itself by expanding too much, so things will undoubtedly be, umm, interesting.
Yeah, it used to be called the Warsaw Pact.
I wouldn't describe it as "agreement" though.
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