I'm normally a wheel driver but I keep an LFS install in a usb drive. When I'm away from home and have access to the computer of a friend, I sometimes play LFS in demo mode with a mouse

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I'm pretty sure no one officially checks if there is money in your mail

I heard about someone losing money this way without any legal mean to recover it. Someone at the post office must have seen there was money in a mail and stole it. When the man asked why his pal never received the money, he was told that it was prohibited and that it was his own fault.

BTW, I don't know how it is in Croatia, but sending money by regular mail is prohibited by most countries post offices...

+1 for hillclimb courses

I'm going to the St Ursannes-Les Rangiers hillclimb race this week-end, it's part of the European Championship and all the great drivers (Plasa, Regal, Meisel, Ianniello, Bormolini, Regosa, Napione, Kramsky, Szasz, Svoboda and many more...) and great machines will be there

A few vids from 2005 :
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/vi ... ss%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/videos/E1%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/vi ... CN%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/vi ... ch%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/vi ... as%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/vi ... el%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/vi ... 0N%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv
http://www.dasracingteam.ch/vi ... ni%20Les%20Rangiers05.wmv

the bad thing : it will probably rain again this year

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If I remember correctly, FWD was invented by a french engineer, and it is used because it is safer, because for most drivers on the road, understeer is easier to control than oversteer (because for one thing the average driver sucks).

RWD is seen as more "logical" because it allows for a better, more even weight distribution. That is better, in particular for racecars as it allows for a more even tire wear. Now that doesn't say FWD is no fun to drive at all, but I do believe RWD is more fun personally.

It was not invented because it is safer. It was invented because it saves a lot of space compared to the conventionnal front engined rwd car.

After WWII, people in europe needed small and affordable cars, which would still have enough space for whole family. To gain space, they needed to get ride of that huge transmission axle. Two solutions became popular : the FWD solution, keeping the engine in the front, and the Rear engine / RWD solution while the traditionnal Front Engined RWD solution was still used for bigger cars. The RWD solution became more widespread in the early years (50's) because it was easier to do and more reliable (no cardan) though the FWD solution had its supporter in the name of Citroen and Panhard who made it popular. They were soon relayed by the Austin Mini. It soon became evident to everybody that the Rear Engined RWD solution was a great solution for economic yet sporty cars (Renault 4CV and Dauphine 1093, Alpine A110, NSU TT, Hillman Imp, Fiat 500 Abarth, DB Djet) because of a better traction and better reliability with more powerfull engines. But these cars were less comfortable and more touchy to drive, especially at high speed because of a very light front end. The RWD Rear Engined solution was also less practical when a car had to be derived in a station-wagon version. Peugeot and Renault followed the Citroen path and progressively switched to FWD during the 60-70's. Other manufacturers did the switch a bit later (starting with the little cars), mostly in late 70's early 80's.

I love how the LFS fanboys just can't live without lynching everybody.

OK it would have been better if n30 used is tool on a private server before giving it to friends who would use it online. But he already told us he contacted scawen about it. What are the consequences of it ? nothing. Just a few people who used such a tool in a few public races. In the next patch, it will be sorted and all WR will be wiped so who cares ?

Remember that you are all using an alpha version of a software. It is made public to be tested and you shouldn't expect a flawless racing experience though LFS is already one of the best and most reliable racing sim I have ever used.

But I bet you are just addicted to flame wars and mass public lynching...

+1 The LX4 and 6 are a blast to drive with the slickmod

+1 for the RWD counterpart for the UFR. I love the UFR and how it handle, but I would like an RWD sister to play with. I always thought a Simca 1000 Rallye II (or III) clone (or any other little mid engineered beast of the same type : NSU TT, Hillman Imp...) would be the ideal sister of the UFR

http://www.objectifvideo.com/php/video.php?id=1960

http://objectifvideo.ph5.free. ... -st-pierre/photo/ov23.jpg

http://objectifvideo.ph5.free. ... l-st-pierre/photo/ov5.jpg

I really don't care about the cheaters. Hotlapping is boring and you can ban them in online races.

cool movie !

But I fail to understand why people choose to put tires behind rock solid barriers. Such tracks would be funnier/safer if there were more bales and tires used instead of barriers. Collisions with barriers are fun the first few times but in the end, we want a non-stop battle for the lead until the end without 80% of the grid unable to finish the race.

I would have loved to see the end of the last jump

I will add in this discussion that the default setups in LFS are far from "market ready road setups".

I will also add that the 350Z can easily slide and drift when pushed hard. But I don't think you drive it on normal roads like Tiff Needell in a racetrack.

show me a layout where it applies. We race in regular "slalom" using the french regulations of the real champs and the FOX is the ultimate car.

The MRT narrow tires just haven't enough grip in comparison.

I will probably host a match this evening but I'm not sure at this time if it will be public or private server.

No offense to you all, but this is the first time we will do it and we would like to play it with very close friends.

But if we are not enough, we will open it publicly and I'll let you know

Best LFS movie I've ever seen

I don't know what is the best solution (more power or wings), but I think it's a pity the MRT is not event the best car in LFS in its own speciality : autocross.

Most of the time, even in the twistiest layouts, the MRT is smoked by the FOX and in a lesser extent, by the UFR. This car is useless except in monotype races.

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P.S could also do with a dedicated server hosting this, can see it being VERY popular

you still need a player to do the ball.

when doing league races (all sims concerned), I use to have something to drink in those bottles made for bicycle racers (don't know how they are called in english).

In summer, I sometimes uses a camelback

Simply put your name/nickname on your skin. Very few people will want to race with another's nickname on their car.

I haven't tested them after the patch, but I'm quite sure they didn't have one before the patch.

They should also remove the hand brake of the BF1.

I saw some insane tires deformations while racing online with the LX6 yesterday. But I don't know how realistic it is. I remember when I had my crazy driving period at 18, a friend tried to follow me on a curvy downhill but told me later he slowed down because he was scared how my tires were deforming. I had cheap and narrow tires.

At least, Albers crash works fine. I suffered from the same crash in a LX6/RAC/FZ50 race at blackwood yesterday

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Edit: And why, with all the other posts between mine and yours did you feel mine was the one to pick up on? :/

Because yours was well argumented though I don't agree. There's no point to answer to trolls, so I answer to people who deserve it.

TristanCliffe : your statement apply only to modern track racing.

drifting is widely used in rallying or offroad racing and is done one purpose, because it is sometimes better to loose a bit of time sliding in a corner while keeping full throttle in order to keep the engine in it's ideal powerband (especially with turbo cars) for the corner exit. It's also sometimes faster to slide the backend on purpose to do an hairpin because the setup of the car is balanced for faster corners and would induce oversteer.

I don't do drifting (ok I sometimes do it for the fun after having crossed the finish line with a regular setup) but I have nothing against it. I find perfectly sane and preferable to see both Drift servers and racing servers : it avoids misunderstandings and keeps people with the same goal togethers.