Quote from Rtsbasic :

Bug I don't see mentioned yet.. start LFS in full screen, it goes to window'd mode on the server list, click to join a server as usual, and while its loading the track etc (still window'd), go and do stuff in another window. When LFS finishes loading & connecting it takes over full screen, but doesn't have focus, have to alt-tab to gain control. Easy to reproduce. Works also if you switch back to LFS while its connecting to check the status, and click away again.

I think this is a Microsoft Windows issue, such things happen in other games too.

Quote from ZzeCoOl :

You realy dont know what you talking about for the red part

no. a lateral slide induce more friction. more friction = slower. It is as simple as that.

Quote from ZzeCoOl :

Isnt this faster? Sry but dont play the fool


What a moron

no the corner is taken slower. It allow them a better speed in the following fast section, that's all. Slow in, Fast out. Even in track racing, it is often faster to take a corner slightly slower if it allow for a better exit. It also depends of the power curve and shifting ratios.

I also forgot to add that in the tightest hairpins, rally drivers grab the handbrake because of the steering ratio. They just can't afford tp turn the wheel to opposite lock.

By the way, did I call you a moron because I don't agree with you ?

as far as driving skill is concerned, I don't know about extreme drifts as they are done in D1 event, but in general, a self induced controlled drift is always easier to do than catching an unpredicted one.

Quote from ZzeCoOl :

Another example is WRC rally where they drift Every single one tight corner because its the fastest way to take the corner

Most of the time, they don't do it because it is the fastest way to take the corner, they mostly do it to have the car oriented toward the exit of the corner earlier and being able to floor it sooner.

If you look carefully, hillclimb drivers slide much less than rally driver. But hillclimb races are often done in the very same roads as the rally events and with the very same cars. So why do they slide less ? Because the hillclimb racers can learn the 5 minutes race course, have a few test runs before the actual race + a full bunch of marshalls to warn them if there is an unpredicted grip problem, so they prefer carrying more speed in the corners. The Rally drivers can't learn the whole 30 km of an SS and nobody will warn them if the stupid crowd throwed water or ice on the road. Rally deals a lot with having to predicate the road surface, so they put the car in a slightly slower controlled slide because it is safer than being catched by a sudden understeer when a tire find a damp patch.

Quote from LFSn00b :

And someone already rated 1. WHY?

I just added a new 1.

The explanation is simple : this type of driving behaviour is stupid, uninteresting, dangerous and boring. Making a video of it won't make it more interesting.

Like I said in another thread, FIA rules are freely downloadable at the FIA website and the part concerning blue flags is simple :

Quote :

d) Light Blue flag:
This should normally be waved, as an indication to a driver that
he is about to be overtaken. It has different meanings during
practice and the race.
At all times :
- A stationary flag should be displayed to a driver leaving the pits
if traffic is approaching on the track.
During practice :
- Give way to a faster car which is about to overtake you.
During the race :
- The flag should normally be shown to a car about to be
lapped and, when shown, the driver concerned must allow the
following car to pass at the earliest opportunity.

Source :
ANNEXE H AU CODE SPORTIF INTER ... TERNATIONAL SPORTING CODE

other FIA regulations :
http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/sportcoderegs.html

Quote from geeman1 :

ah whatever.. lol your just getting sued by record companies

PS. It's a good idea to remove the link as soon as possible.

See that "report button" at the top of the thread ? you just had to click it and report the problem.

Just in case, I did it already.

I usually keep my line if there is only one leader, just raising the brake zone a little bit. I know he will easily get past me if he is faster, although it seems some people do not like it.

If there are 2 or more racers, I usually lift in the straight, in order not to ruin their fight. I use my turn signals to warn them if I want to keep an external line or if I want to change line.

this video is graphically beautifull (and I also like Trentomoller), but I won't say it is the best ever. I find it actually slightly boring. Were is the racing ? Is Live For Speed a racing simulator or an Eye Candy thingy ? It doesn't give a good view of Live For Speed as a whole.

IMHO, the best LFS movies are still Yamakawa's UF1 Club reviews. I love those racing footage with kitchy music


No offense intended eh, I wouldn't be able to produce a better vid !

I will add another point : sense of speed.

The Blackwood track is much much wider than normal roads, so you don't get the same sense of speed as you would in a typical european country road. That's probably the reason why your dad and brother think they slide at low speed.

Example : with the slowest LFS car, you can do the 2.1 mile blackwood gp track in 1min42 seconds. Average speed : 74 mph in a 55bhp car with 4 gears. Even with the long straight, this is a very fast average speed considering the engine. That means the corner are taken pretty fast (while it feels quite slow).

Last edited by Tomi, Fri 1 Jun 2007, 10:33.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Hmm. That does bother me a bit. Imagine if everybody did it. I only ever use the horn in reply to someone who beeps at me. Basically to say "Yes I know, retard, stop banging your stupid horn".

I know it probably bother some peoples, but there is so many stupid things said in the chat in the public servers that I usually ignore them and don't use them much (and a lot of people probably do the same). Flashing my lights wouldn't help much when I'm side by side.

It's always a quick horn though, and I find this better than being thrown out of the track because someone didn't look right/left.

If you have a better idea...

Quote from spanks :

+1

its about a 50/50 chance whether my wheel is gonna have ffb on connection or not

I don't think it is needed. I very often forget to plug the powercord of my FF wheel and the Force Feedback starts instantly even while driving.

Quote from [DUcK] :

i totally agree doorman... alot of the time when im learning a track or something ill get the quick guys behind me.. see the blue flag so i move over, yet i still get a "BLUE FLAG MOVE NOOB" which just makes me eager to turn in on them, but i dont. not only that i think it looks unprofessional.

being relatively fast at some combos (call me arrogant whatever.. but hey i only mean SOME combos ), yes it does get annoying when slower drivers are infront of u, but they are there to have fun too. no point trying to do some big f*** off pass when they are trying to learn the race lines.
being a good race driver, means not only can u win races, but u must be able to get through ALL traffic succesfuly, inc. blue flag drivers.
and im pretty sure when u watch all the top level drivers ( like my favourite bagbag ) they do actually wait for substantial room to pass, they are smart enough to realize, hey, if i hit them, thats my race over too. not only that, u havent won cleanly if u hit someone off.. blue flag or not, its almost a form of cheating
so yeah, thats my life story.. whats urs?
kbye.

When I have to pass someone under the blue flag, I usually use the horn. I hope it doesn't sound too rude, I only use it to warn the driver in front of me that he is about to be lapped. I don't have that many buttons on my wheel so I have very few preprogrammed messages (a smiley and a "sorry !" button, yeah I also do mistakes sometimes ).

I also use the horn very often when I'm side by side other drivers. I only use it as a safety mesure in case they didn't saw me.

Last edited by Tomi, Thu 31 May 2007, 15:01.

I just need to warn you guys that using music from in your video which you don't own the copyright nor do have an agreement from the copyright holders is illegal (99.99% of the commercial music).

You should rather use music released under a licence that allow redistribution and reuse in another production.

Too bad the crappy song spoils the video

PS: Sum41 is not punk. Next time you will say that Avril Lavigne is singing Heavy Metal right ? :chairs:

Quote from 11SuLLy11 :

Is there anyway I can play the last official patch,I have downloaded w26 but no one is ever online,only 3 server's on as we speak,with only i person in each

stupid question. just download the LFS S2 "Patch W" release. You should have installed the test patch in a separate folder in the first place.

there are more than 3 hosts and people online all the time with the new patches. If you don't see them, verify you are not filtering the results and log in to lfsworld to compare the "in game" race list with the test patched hosts in LFS World.

Quote from Becky Rose :

On the Linux front I can now say that it is because Kubuntu/Ubuntu does not support my hard disk/sata interface. I'll try a different distro but I cant until next week (CD shortage).

If you have a problem with your sata interface, there is many chance it is just not supported by the kernel. As far as I know, all the biggest distro uses the same 2.6.20 version of the kernel, so you should not expect an opensuse or fedora to work better with your hardware until the next releases.

I know that some buggy sata controller have problem with linux. For some of them you can try the option acpi=off or pci=nommconf at the grub boot prompt and it should boot.

Quote from Becky Rose :

I have two suspiscions as to why it failed, it's either because I do not have an fd0 device (my only error message), or it's Gnome that is crashing. The hang up occurs when the GUI initialises, I get a white screen and a mouse cursor and thats it. Kubuntu uses KDE instead of Gnome - thus providing a good diagnostic method as to what is wrong.

I don't think it has anything to do with a missing fd0 device. I have used computers without a floppy drive for more than 8 years without any problem and if it hangs during the gui loading, this probably an X11 (configuration?) or GDM problem. You should try logging in console mode in another tty and have a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. I believe there is also a /var/log/gdm directory too.

Quote :

It's written in a wierd multi-platform tool that kinda mixes C, object orientated (although not C++ wierdly), and BASIC. It's called BlitzMax - I view it as an excellent intermediary where BASIC isn't powerful enough but C++ is still too much of a pain in the RS232C port.

It looks good. Too bad it is proprietary though :\

If ubuntu doesn't boot, you should try another distro than kubuntu because the internals are the same (kernel + userland). They only differ by the choice of the window environment (just a different set of preinstalled packages).

A computer that doesn't boot linux is a rare case nowadays, you may have a very specific problem. I know some HP computers with buggy SATA controllers need kernel options at the boot prompt for example. Before burning CDs for each distro I'd suggest doing a google search with your specific hardware.

Which language/portable libraries did you use for the windows/mac versions ?

Did you start the Linux version since your last post referring to it ?

Quote from DeKo :

Sorry for going off-topic but the sound of that car is ****ing amazing. And it actually looks real, one of the only times i see potential in an rfactor mod (1994 F1 mod looks amazing although ive yet to try it, and FBMW is pretty spot on, most others are fairly poor and use just ridiculous tyre curves).

amazing ? It sounded like a tractor. I don't remember a C6 sounding like this...

nice try. I hate the music though but it is totally subjective.

I would say that some cameras choices are not the best. I'm a bit bored of vids with too many cams following the cars. The laggy moves also spoil the fun. Maybe you should record those footage with a reduced speed. The transitions are also a bit all the same and the music choice limit the interactivity with the video because it's a bit "full throttle all the time".

Still, it is quite good if it is your first movie

Quote from DTrott :

Also because Raceabout is so bloody hard to drive.

To me the main problem with the Raceabout is the existence of the LXes. Whenever I want to drive a roadster, I always end up using the LX4 or LX6. I just love the Caterham look&feel.

My only chance to race with the RAC is to join a server allowing only the RAC or Fz5. But if the LX6 is also accepted. No way !

IMHO : This choice should be handled by the operating system (via directx in this case), not LFS

can I get a refund for the 5 minutes of my life I just lost ?