what an amazing amount of spiritual misery and cognitive blindness here.
Scawen, just remove that siren feature !
Scawen, just remove that siren feature !
not sudden, it always has been, but now u see the long term results
"mum he started, not me !"
why would you promote the very things u spit on everyday ? (i guess u spit on inequality, but i may be wrong after all)
this doesnt need a currency to happen
well, TC created a server where u have to drive to get money to buy new cars.
Now realize that the simple fact of being able to get that TC money in exchange of something else, "assets" as u write it (hmm, here too, think about it for a second lol that word), literally kills the spirit of the server.
There are other ways to give new drivers some starting bonus.
Atm, if u have friends or real money, u get an unfair advantage (cheating, yes) on other players who dont. This recreate the breeding grounds for the IRL world capitalistic perversions to emerge, when u could have taken advantage of having control on a virgin virtual world and use some imagination to create and experiment new ways, new mechanics, that allows to keep things out of the "monetization of anything" craze.
Fail.
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Now realize that the simple fact of being able to get that TC money in exchange of something else, "assets" as u write it (hmm, here too, think about it for a second lol that word), literally kills the spirit of the server.
There are other ways to give new drivers some starting bonus.
Atm, if u have friends or real money, u get an unfair advantage (cheating, yes) on other players who dont. This recreate the breeding grounds for the IRL world capitalistic perversions to emerge, when u could have taken advantage of having control on a virgin virtual world and use some imagination to create and experiment new ways, new mechanics, that allows to keep things out of the "monetization of anything" craze.
Fail.
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It is always a mistake to transfert shitty concept from the real world into virtual ones.
Who need cops & robbers when we can simply race ?
Who needs money when everything is already available for free ?
Why didn't you TC guys break the money mess at first sign of abuse ? because u believe it is a normal part of this world. Simple.
U even call it "economy", wich tells a lot about your model and references.
As long as people think that money is an elementary particle of the cosmos and things can't exist without it, we are screwed.
Who need cops & robbers when we can simply race ?
Who needs money when everything is already available for free ?
Why didn't you TC guys break the money mess at first sign of abuse ? because u believe it is a normal part of this world. Simple.
U even call it "economy", wich tells a lot about your model and references.
As long as people think that money is an elementary particle of the cosmos and things can't exist without it, we are screwed.
guess that's what u get when u recreate real world money mechanics XD
I never understood why we need "buy" things on some lfs servers.
Am loling a bit, wow 1€ for 1000 TC, that is a smart guy behind this, he understood a lot, he will be rich someday ! or in jail
On topic, we have same thing happening on JaR with multiple users for 1 account and multiple accounts for one user, and quite a few account are banned now.
Some weeks ago I even had some player asking for a perm ban, I thought he was addicted and wanted to take a mandatory break, but I was wrong, that guy came the next day with a different account, and got banned too.
Maybe he was trying to make all rented accounts perm banned.
Let's hope this wont delay the dev too hard again.
I never understood why we need "buy" things on some lfs servers.
Am loling a bit, wow 1€ for 1000 TC, that is a smart guy behind this, he understood a lot, he will be rich someday ! or in jail
On topic, we have same thing happening on JaR with multiple users for 1 account and multiple accounts for one user, and quite a few account are banned now.
Some weeks ago I even had some player asking for a perm ban, I thought he was addicted and wanted to take a mandatory break, but I was wrong, that guy came the next day with a different account, and got banned too.
Maybe he was trying to make all rented accounts perm banned.
Let's hope this wont delay the dev too hard again.
Nice to clarify. So no account data hacking + my pass are unique = alright and safe.
License rental is a thing I already heard about on JaR.
Also I wouldnt be surprised to learn about some method to make AI guess easy passwords.
License rental is a thing I already heard about on JaR.
Also I wouldnt be surprised to learn about some method to make AI guess easy passwords.
On JaR we issued a bunch of perm bans when we saw some people with 5 or 6 "spare accounts"
I dont believe the hack scenario, but the renting one from scammed/gift/bought/2nd hand accounts seems more realist.
Actually this makes sense now for me, cause I just couldnt believe people would buy 6 s3 accounts to get them all perm banned on JaR.
I wont change my password now, if some wizard can hack accounts now (wich I dont believe at all), he would easy get my new password tomorrow.
Also this account borrowing business is probably running for monthes, so no need panic.
I dont believe the hack scenario, but the renting one from scammed/gift/bought/2nd hand accounts seems more realist.
Actually this makes sense now for me, cause I just couldnt believe people would buy 6 s3 accounts to get them all perm banned on JaR.
I wont change my password now, if some wizard can hack accounts now (wich I dont believe at all), he would easy get my new password tomorrow.
Also this account borrowing business is probably running for monthes, so no need panic.
great, mod sorting was very much needed
In old times when we had 1000 polys for a whole car we would be happy.
If we check how it was done back then :
- we have a high poly model, we photoshoot it (printscreen) from big distance with long focal (big zoom so perspective are flatened), front, back, left, top side
- cut front, left back...textures from this.
- then we build a proper very low poly mod following the high poly outlines, starting from a subdivided box usually, or very crude retopo
- then we map the box with previously made textures.
In the end a LOD2 will be drawn on a very very small number of pixels so the textures dont need high resolution, 256*256 or even 128*128 will be more than enough.
That is easy enough and gives good enough results for something convex that u will see from afar. Most of mods would do that below 1000 polys.
For bikes, cranes and complicated shapes that matter a lot for the shadows, it will be a bit more tedious and will need quite more polys to get good results for shadow, but still, that's much faster than building a detailed LOD1. Maybe some polygon reduction tool would be more efficient here.
If we check how it was done back then :
- we have a high poly model, we photoshoot it (printscreen) from big distance with long focal (big zoom so perspective are flatened), front, back, left, top side
- cut front, left back...textures from this.
- then we build a proper very low poly mod following the high poly outlines, starting from a subdivided box usually, or very crude retopo
- then we map the box with previously made textures.
In the end a LOD2 will be drawn on a very very small number of pixels so the textures dont need high resolution, 256*256 or even 128*128 will be more than enough.
That is easy enough and gives good enough results for something convex that u will see from afar. Most of mods would do that below 1000 polys.
For bikes, cranes and complicated shapes that matter a lot for the shadows, it will be a bit more tedious and will need quite more polys to get good results for shadow, but still, that's much faster than building a detailed LOD1. Maybe some polygon reduction tool would be more efficient here.
actually better check the .veh, most of size is often textures
by checking each .veh I can find
latest updated
BD9115~003 1.2mb
BS ORIVIA~017
FLPPDRIFT 004~001 1.9mb
FLPPTRCK 009~009
FLPPTRCK 010~011 1.5mb
XRT STREET TUNE~013
TURIMSKYLEBLOKE~027
"old"
GM_SST_JM9~005
MSPORTS15~032
4AGE POWERED MY FALCON~005
6 CANECO~008 1.4mb
36E3M~001
40PONEI~011
180RS COUPE~039 2mb
180RS~032 2mb
199 GTR FORCHE~006 1.4mb
199 TURBO FORCHE~028 1.7mb
240RS~023
1994 ETK K-SERIES~010
AC_ED_SILLC13~001
AC_ED_TUZALTI~001
ACMO GT3 TFASK~003
i stopped there because there are so much, better write some script to find them
by checking each .veh I can find
latest updated
BD9115~003 1.2mb
BS ORIVIA~017
FLPPDRIFT 004~001 1.9mb
FLPPTRCK 009~009
FLPPTRCK 010~011 1.5mb
XRT STREET TUNE~013
TURIMSKYLEBLOKE~027
"old"
GM_SST_JM9~005
MSPORTS15~032
4AGE POWERED MY FALCON~005
6 CANECO~008 1.4mb
36E3M~001
40PONEI~011
180RS COUPE~039 2mb
180RS~032 2mb
199 GTR FORCHE~006 1.4mb
199 TURBO FORCHE~028 1.7mb
240RS~023
1994 ETK K-SERIES~010
AC_ED_SILLC13~001
AC_ED_TUZALTI~001
ACMO GT3 TFASK~003
i stopped there because there are so much, better write some script to find them
quick look at last updated mods since 2 days
>10mb
8JFZ SUPERCELESTRAL~017
MC SPLANTER~027
>9mb
BZ30 ROADSTER~044
BZ30 ROADSTER SPORT~027
BZ30 ROADSTER GTR~023
>10mb
8JFZ SUPERCELESTRAL~017
MC SPLANTER~027
>9mb
BZ30 ROADSTER~044
BZ30 ROADSTER SPORT~027
BZ30 ROADSTER GTR~023
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nothing personnal @scammergamerLOL but what scawen just wrote is the basic of survival, even in real world
much too much people need a teacher to go ahead, so much can't even TRY, and just ask questions on servers. How to join game ? How to spectate ? how to increase braking ? how to start LFS ? how to think ?
Hmm am going a bit far maybe, but well, it's a plague, everyone wastes times here.
Good luck with ur bugs, looks like a nice one.
much too much people need a teacher to go ahead, so much can't even TRY, and just ask questions on servers. How to join game ? How to spectate ? how to increase braking ? how to start LFS ? how to think ?
Hmm am going a bit far maybe, but well, it's a plague, everyone wastes times here.
Good luck with ur bugs, looks like a nice one.
The question asked in the poll suggests that it could be acceptable to answer yes. This is not good as it is a starting point to spread ignorance.
Copyrights laws are clear on the matter, maybe u could read some
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/derivative_work
Another point is that using textures or parts from another mod doesnt constitute a derivative work by itself, but rather theft, unless author of texture or part explicitely allows copy.
And if you want to be totally clean legit, you must include all the licenses of all the parts and textures that u have used in a text file that must be distributed with your work.
From my experience however, textures copyright is unmanageable, everyone builds on other people work, sooner or later. Who takes care of license for a texture ?
So while the law is clear, it is not enforced on some specific things wich have been integrated in work/business culture.
In fact using textures/part from another work could also be interpreted as sampling, like in music, but am not sure, it would need some research.
Better stick to the law, and most of all, respect of other people work, specially in a small community.
Copyrights laws are clear on the matter, maybe u could read some
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/derivative_work
Another point is that using textures or parts from another mod doesnt constitute a derivative work by itself, but rather theft, unless author of texture or part explicitely allows copy.
And if you want to be totally clean legit, you must include all the licenses of all the parts and textures that u have used in a text file that must be distributed with your work.
From my experience however, textures copyright is unmanageable, everyone builds on other people work, sooner or later. Who takes care of license for a texture ?
So while the law is clear, it is not enforced on some specific things wich have been integrated in work/business culture.
In fact using textures/part from another work could also be interpreted as sampling, like in music, but am not sure, it would need some research.
Better stick to the law, and most of all, respect of other people work, specially in a small community.
Usually for anything not written in a copyright license, normal copyright applies.
Granted rights must be explicitely written in the license, wich is usually not the case for derivatives in royalty free licenses.
CGTrader is no exception, I could not find anything on derivatives in that license, so I would nt allow derivatives and keep like it is now.
Granted rights must be explicitely written in the license, wich is usually not the case for derivatives in royalty free licenses.
CGTrader is no exception, I could not find anything on derivatives in that license, so I would nt allow derivatives and keep like it is now.
hey, watch out ! royalty free models from CGTrader dont explicitely allow derivatives.
A retopo is a derivative, and even more, making a LFS mod from an imported 3D model is itself a derivative.
Only use models with license that explicitely allow derivatives.
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check this
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/97013-Model-sources---which-are-OK-to-use-and-which-are-not-accepted
A retopo is a derivative, and even more, making a LFS mod from an imported 3D model is itself a derivative.
Only use models with license that explicitely allow derivatives.
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check this
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/97013-Model-sources---which-are-OK-to-use-and-which-are-not-accepted
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on a full server where people are allowed to pit anytime, that pit lag forbids racing. Sometime on JaR u get so much people, that u can have a string of pit exits so close from each one and u cant just take a corner properly.
Also people tend to gather in same places, so u can have 15-20 cars swarming at that place, making fps drop to sometimes 10 on my old q6600 system.
Pit lags got worse and worse since some monthes, I didnt have some much drops last summer so it's good if checks are implemented and limits enforced. Having 50% of a mod's polycount on the rims is absurd, go racing instead.
Also people tend to gather in same places, so u can have 15-20 cars swarming at that place, making fps drop to sometimes 10 on my old q6600 system.
Pit lags got worse and worse since some monthes, I didnt have some much drops last summer so it's good if checks are implemented and limits enforced. Having 50% of a mod's polycount on the rims is absurd, go racing instead.
Well, I drove a bit and tuned a setup.
It should feel balanced and much easier to drive than the stock set, on wheel and mouse.
Good as it is for beginners, and for racers, a good basis to fine tune.
It should feel balanced and much easier to drive than the stock set, on wheel and mouse.
Good as it is for beginners, and for racers, a good basis to fine tune.
this brings a new level of detail and quality
only downside is the standard setup, it is much too unstable, specially for casual drivers who just want a try
top job
only downside is the standard setup, it is much too unstable, specially for casual drivers who just want a try
top job
JaR 2.184 Bootstrap Loader 1.03
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Jar Manager System for the LFS Bitching Simulator
Version 2.184
Copyright 2021, Vitas Research Inc.
Checking Memory... Ok
Loading System Components...
! Warning ! Not enough memory for system components.
> add more memory
Please insert brain into brainslot
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Brain memory found ! 3 bytes added.
> load system
Loading System Components... Ok
Loading drivers...
mouse.drv... Ok
keyboard.drv... Ok
display.drv... Ok
Ai 12.drv... Ok
vroom.drv... Ok
ban.drv... Ok
> checkmsg
Checking messages.... 1 new message found
> badadmin.exe
BadAdmin V23 Pro V2.3
Copyright 2012 turbofanfan
>> list /banreason #LERAUG
Reading banlog.txt
BanReason #2384
1 interfering with hotlapper
2 warned by admin
3 harassing admin
4 kicked by turbofan
5 warned ban by turbofan
6 discussing rules
7 banned 12h by turbofan
>> sendforum
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Jar Manager System for the LFS Bitching Simulator
Version 2.184
Copyright 2021, Vitas Research Inc.
Checking Memory... Ok
Loading System Components...
! Warning ! Not enough memory for system components.
> add more memory
Please insert brain into brainslot
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Brain memory found ! 3 bytes added.
> load system
Loading System Components... Ok
Loading drivers...
mouse.drv... Ok
keyboard.drv... Ok
display.drv... Ok
Ai 12.drv... Ok
vroom.drv... Ok
ban.drv... Ok
> checkmsg
Checking messages.... 1 new message found
> badadmin.exe
BadAdmin V23 Pro V2.3
Copyright 2012 turbofanfan
>> list /banreason #LERAUG
Reading banlog.txt
BanReason #2384
1 interfering with hotlapper
2 warned by admin
3 harassing admin
4 kicked by turbofan
5 warned ban by turbofan
6 discussing rules
7 banned 12h by turbofan
>> sendforum
Sending output to lfs.net
seems am not the only one having a hard time to grasp the difference between spin and rotate
maybe you could clarify this
anyway that looks amazing, just dont burn out !
maybe you could clarify this
anyway that looks amazing, just dont burn out !
you're were kicked, not banned
just dont stop on busy road again
just dont stop on busy road again
if it is fast and simple to change, would it be possible to get those handicap mass increased for trucks and busses ? it's always 200kgs max
would be nice to be able to load some tons in those big things, even if we cant position them vertically
would be nice to be able to load some tons in those big things, even if we cant position them vertically
well the connection list has a scrollbar now, and that makes writing admin commands wich need usernames (right click in connection list) a bit tedious
It was much more convenient when all connections were displayed on screen, so maybe switch to scrollbar above 47 connections and keep old system below that threshold ?
It was much more convenient when all connections were displayed on screen, so maybe switch to scrollbar above 47 connections and keep old system below that threshold ?
am ok to wait but i believe ppl on server would like it done
great update anyway, wow
edit: I messaged server owner about your proposal, thanks
great update anyway, wow
edit: I messaged server owner about your proposal, thanks
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we are getting some cases of OOS - Car
bavaria sultan special, and bavaria A63 N power will cause OOS out of pit
sultan is v12 and a63 is v10 engine so i guess its related with sound update
It seems other mods are causing OOS too but I have no info wich ATM
bavaria sultan special, and bavaria A63 N power will cause OOS out of pit
sultan is v12 and a63 is v10 engine so i guess its related with sound update
It seems other mods are causing OOS too but I have no info wich ATM
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