Alright, I know this is getting out of hand, and I should really put this on Improvement Suggestions really.

But could driver/passenger modeler be included for movable objects? I think this is rather in distant future... but all of sudden I was thinking something about movable ballast for sidecar racing. Even another player moving passenger in sidecar action.

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Wed 13 Dec 2023, 05:15.

Does moving subobjects take in effect on downforce and air resistance?

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Yes, I think popup headlights should not be drawn in forces mode.

I second this. Definitely.

I think this topic is far too much about discussed in here, although so are several others.

Abortion is of course a murder, but reasons why abortions are still being done are extremely thin layer between black, grey and white areas. One perspective about this doesn't justify whether things should do like this or so. Humans have feelings... We feel bad when someone's life is taken away before it even started... yet we still happen to take out each others during wars, because we want so.

And then there is about innocence... religion... status... human race even... all of these reasons about this topic.

I am not the correct person about discussing this, but whatever is the reason, it should not be taken lightly about this.

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Bitrate: 1411 kbit/s
Length: 4:37
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Well done!

I thank you for this update. I can now update my Maximum Yard and Hyper Circle layouts. Will do this once I am ready to go for it.

It is wayyy too hard to implement like that, as there is required to code of how AI uses data from player use. Also, player can think, AI can not.

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And thats the whole point of sharing music. It doesnt matter which platform its been uploaded to. The whole point is promoting yourself. I couldnt care less if its 256 or 320 kbps while listening as long as its not overdriven or distorted. If I find a cool track from other artists on either YT, Soundclouod, Spotify or wherever, and I actually want to buy it, I still can go to a record store around the corner and get the vinyl, or buy the original lossless files from bandcamp or other online record stores. I never went like "oh its been uploaded to Soundcloud, therefor the artists and his whole music sucks in general"

Word!

As a YouTube consumer, I just use YT platform. There you can find various gems according to music. ( In a same manner as from SoundCloud for example, just different platform... and format )

I do use other platforms too though.

Excellent work.

I support both realistic and conceptual things, as all of them are based on simulation and not a real thing.

Yeah, I did use a custom setup, for AI users ( AS4 ). It is like they are on throttle too long and attempting for perfect limit, which they fail on certain instances.

Hmmh... Of course, removing whole pit speed limit completely would not cause issues, or removing penalties ( which you can do ), but that is completely different story.


I am certain I will find a proper proof ( not soon I believe ), as what I believe is purely settings oriented, where AI seems not to handle certain settings enough sufficiently.


EDIT: Just in case IF this MAY be true, I added a setup here, it is happening exactly on this setup. ( Dont mind the name, I have so many stuff and setups that I had to rename it like this ) ( And yes, same car, Formula US 93, on Combo of KY3R )

It may happen on different courses as well, as well as FE4 IIRC

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I have been a bit off, but yes, .spr incoming ( currently processing the race )

EDIT: Got it! It is not that much dramatic as AI is near the end of the pitlane, but there it happens. Depending on the car condition and where the pit box is, it varies. You also notice how they skip a pitbox.

Formula US 93

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Thu 2 Nov 2023, 16:43.

Automatic = On when ignition is on / vehicle is on. Off when opposite.
Automatic 2 = Depending how dark area is sensoring, adjusting by %.
On = Always on when switched.
Off = Always off when switched.


Also, there are adjustments of how bright/dim dashboard is, excluding emergency switch, which is in some vehicles, always bright.


EDIT: About what self-lit should be.

EDIT2: I just noticed I misunderstood this thread a bit, my bad. Although not completely off.

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Fri 3 Nov 2023, 12:10.

I wonder if that can be implemented with while pressing clutch, because that's what you need to press first in most H-shifter patterns. Ofc, does not work with autoclutch.

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Is it possible to add an on/off switch to the "miscellaneous" tab for the motorcycle's steering system? I believe that if there is a way to walk with the stabilizers turned off, it is possible to maneuver, so that the stabilizer does not interfere, thinking that we would fall

Exactly what I suggested.

TSX750, look that drifting! Could not focus anymore


EDIT: WIth R2, you can make even longer drifting. Made a lap with this combo, R1 definitely suits for being faster drastically, but only for 1-2 laps as tires are getting hotter.


Riding bikes are indeed improved, there is no more doubt of it.

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Sat 28 Oct 2023, 13:18.

"A new high speed model is used for speeds above 72 km/h
A special low speed model is used for speeds below 36 km/h
Models are interpolated between 36 and 72 km/h"


I would like to see an option to trigger this off/on for certain circumstances, such as driving fast track, which contains rather slow corners. Otherwise it is greatly improved.

EDIT: Yes I know, it is suggestion really... but it is so much integrated for this I could not see to report anywhere else, as driving itself is vastly improved.

We need someone else to translate this issue

Gear Debounce is like having a "clutch bomb". It's like when releasing clutch on bike at full throttle from absolute on to absolute off in fraction of a second, bike will lift up it's nose like a stallion. ( If there is enough power and being enough lightweight, that is. )

It seems to be more effective the more rpm you have. Very deadly on cornering. It is deadly on real life too, but it is quite exaggerated in LFS. ( Depending on the bike of course )

Bug Report: AI in KY3R can't find pitstop properly in certain pitboxes, they seem to attempt stop between boxes. Also some of the vehicles still manages to get pitspeed penalty due accelerating too much., such as Formula US 93


EDIT: As Confirmed, AI does exactly same on BL2 and SO6R ( Although SO6R seems to be happening a bit less often. )

EDIT2: AI on FE4, that is chaos. I suggest to check it out, lots of crashes literally every braking point. ( Also pitbox issue )

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Fri 20 Oct 2023, 11:44.

Quote from Scawen :

Right, I did see the crash once. I need a way to reliably reproduce the crash.

EDIT:

Trying a lot, I never saw it again. In my case it was an actual crash, but not in LFS.exe and I didn't have LFS in the debugger, so no info yet. I clicked to enter game from the entry screen and got a crash, but only once.

UnknownMaster21: You called what you saw a "softlock" but what do you actually mean by that?

Alright! INGUL Sidecar. This causes AI not able to drive. It tries to generate path for AS4, nothing happens.

LFS is not responding.

EDIT: Yeah, no setting can generate path in this combo. on BL1, this vehicle AI can use this vehicle, but driving it is completely... nuts.

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No, but we are not going to discuss this thing here, it goes out of topic guaranteed.

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I have so far tested 562 different vehicles for AI in AS4. Depending on the mod and several situations, it is clear why tire physics must be finished. AI does not take any information about if vehicle is about to flip itself. I wonder, if that is the case in bikes which AI could go much faster if flipping is taken in practice?

EDIT: Now 598 vehicles. So far 3 vehicles can't make full proper lap in AS4, no matter what are the settings. But this is more like a mod issue itself and not LFS itself. 14 vehicles has several difficulties to make proper lap, but can still do decently.

( I am talking AI driving these with Level 5, PRO level only ) ( Furthermore, I am only using vehicles which SHOULD, supposedly do a lap by AI in this combo, as fast as possible )

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Mon 16 Oct 2023, 09:44.

CVT speed could also do the trick.

Here is me + 5 AI's driving 1 lap in AS4, Bike is BX400.

Notice difference between human and AI on corners. Path is in certain corners completely different.

Driving the bike is now much better and more predictable.