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STCC Sim Touring Car Cup
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Attached is the second version of the commentary application.

Setup
To use the commentator acting as the 'server' (or Murray in this instance) must setup port 5000 on their firewall/router. Please ask if you need tips on this. The 'client' (or in this case, Brundle) needs to know the WAN IP# address of Murray.

Connecting
First off Brundle needs to connect to the server. By default the application starts in server mode, Brundle should click on the "Waiting for Connection" button and then type the IP address of Murray, then press enter. The button should now change to say "Connected" on both machines.

You should also fire up Skype/MSN Messenger so that you can directly hear each other talking.

Recording
When you are ready to start recording Murray should press ENTER on the keyboard, this will start both machines recording.

Push To Talk
Pressing the SPACE key at any time initiates a request to the other commentator that you wish to talk, your image will highlight and a short audible tone will play (headphones are recommended anyway so that your LFS sounds are not overplayed on the commentary).

Saving the Commentary
When you are finished Murray should press ESCAPE to stop recording and save. Both machines should then return to saying "recording" and a .wav file will appear in the application directory. Unlike the first application the .wav files are numbered so they do not overwrite.
Attached files
commentary2.zip - 821.5 KB - 180 views
Quote from Becky Rose :
Lap 1, The Junction, 35
Car 35 braked helplessly late and contacted other cars. Upon rejoining he tapped the rear of car 6 such that it caused car 6 to spin and loose a considerable number of places. Car 35 PENALTY - referred to panel.

Ehh sorry but I already told the guys I had some bad lag
Anyway I don't agree that it was my fault that car 6 spun. When you look at it you can see that after the corner he tries to rejoin the racing line, but it wasn't possible cause my car was already there.

Anyway there's still not much I can say; everything is kinda odd with only 10/15 fps
I'll give it a try Becky, thanks. But I must warn you that my sound system is very awkward - I use a USB headset, and I'm not sure if your program will work with that (but I might be wrong).

I'll give it a try, but if not I can fall back on MSN with voice chat as well (and type that I want to speak)
Your object is noted Thommm, the stewards are investigating the incident.

Tristan - ok, I think it should work still. Basically it wont replace MSN for hearing each other but duplexes with it and saves out a local copy of your speach at fully quality.

Tip: Afterwards you can load the sound file into Sound Recorder, select Save As, goto the options and you can change the codec to mp3 which reduces the filesize considerably.

(I dont know how to make that bit automatic atm).
The closing date to report incidents is Wednesday midnight UTC. Some new incidents have been reported, and the resulting viewing of the replays again has also resulted in further incidents being investigated.

Steward Inquiries - Additional
The closing date for protests on these inquiries is Sunday midnight UTC.

Round 1 Heat A, Lap 5, The Junction, 8+6
Car 8 did not leave sufficient room for car 6 dispite him having achieved significant overlap. Car 8 WARNED.

Round 2, Lap 6, Start/Finish Straight, 8+6
8 nerfed 6, although the nerfing was persistent it resulted in no position change or further incident and is deemed acceptable.

Round 2, Lap 6, Flyover, 8+6
Car 8 used excessive weaving to defend his position, contravening Sporting Regulation S2.0. Driver 8 CAUTIONED.

Round 2, Lap 8, Steakhouse Corner, 8+6 UNDER APPEAL
Car 8 overtook by use of excessive contact. Driver 8 CAUTIONED.
What's the difference between warned and cautioned please?
A warning is not too serious and is just a ticking off, if one particular driver is warned too many times then additional action may be taken. The driver does not score a 'clean race' (for race, read 'heat'). Drivers who achieve a poor quota of clean races may have their STCC race license revoked or not renewed, although this isn't likely to occur.

A caution is more serious, like a warning it does not count as a clean race. A single caution is treated just like a warning, but if two cautions are received in the same event a penalty will be applied to the result of the feature race.

Penalties are at the stewards discretion, but most likely a 1 position drop. The stewards may also dock championship points or laps if it is considered more appropriate.
Quote from Becky Rose :The closing date to report incidents is Wednesday midnight UTC. Some new incidents have been reported, and the resulting viewing of the replays again has also resulted in further incidents being investigated.

Steward Inquiries - Additional
The closing date for protests on these inquiries is Sunday midnight UTC.

Round 1 Heat A, Lap 5, The Junction, 8+6
Car 8 did not leave sufficient room for car 6 dispite him having achieved significant overlap. Car 8 WARNED.

Round 2, Lap 6, Start/Finish Straight, 8+6
8 nerfed 6, although the nerfing was persistent it resulted in no position change or further incident and is deemed acceptable.

Round 2, Lap 6, Flyover, 8+6
Car 8 used excessive weaving to defend his position, contravening Sporting Regulation S2.0. Driver 8 CAUTIONED.

Round 2, Lap 8, Steakhouse Corner, 8+6
Car 8 overtook by use of excessive contact. Driver 8 CAUTIONED.

gulp, well i think i might re-check the replays, seeing as im sure that i cant be at fault that much

PS - what is "nerfing"?
nerfing is light rubbing. I must say I did feel a bit guilty posting that update and it was all about you, but I just had to watch your end of the heats in more detail so...
Race Statistics
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Quote from Becky Rose :Round 1 Heat A, Lap 5, The Junction, 8+6
Car 8 did not leave sufficient room for car 6 dispite him having achieved significant overlap. Car 8 WARNED.

its a fiar cop, i didnt see him, i didnt look
Quote from Becky Rose :Round 2, Lap 6, Start/Finish Straight, 8+6
8 nerfed 6, although the nerfing was persistent it resulted in no position change or further incident and is deemed acceptable.

yeap, i got in his draft and it gave me more of a speed boost than i realised and i had nowhere to go, so i ended up slightly tapping him
Quote from Becky Rose :Round 2, Lap 6, Flyover, 8+6
Car 8 used excessive weaving to defend his position, contravening Sporting Regulation S2.0. Driver 8 CAUTIONED.

by my count thats 3 weaves, first one was a bit of running wide and just moving a little more to stop him, the next was purely to stop him and the next was a bit of FFB kickback, but i do understand i probably deserve some warning for it, it was just i forgot the weaving rule, and i knew i had accidently added less braking power, so if we were level he would take me, so i just tried to keep infront, which in the end failed, as i pulled over to the right (not a weave, im just more comfortable taking my usual line)
Quote from Becky Rose :Round 2, Lap 8, Steakhouse Corner, 8+6
Car 8 overtook by use of excessive contact. Driver 8 CAUTIONED.

ok, when i went hotlapping my braking point was about 4 feet before the red bus lane started, watch the replays and youll see thats what i always do, i know i can make it from there, and when i saw S Baker (Bean0) brake quite early and off line, i thought "hey, i could probably make it, or at least get a damn good run on him", then he pulled over onto the red bit and i realised what was about to happen, so i jammed the brakes, even hit the wall trying to avoid him but he had braked earlier and i could not stop, but after i saw that big gap my brain just said "go" and i went, but i had forgotten about the small bump on the exit that sends it skidding, thus i just slid right into him, and from the outside it looks like i did it intentionally

EDIT - Most of my laps of SO2 were hotlaps, so as a result i know the exact limits of car and track, but throw another driver in there and i make n00bish mistakes
Firstly, it isn't important wether you did something intentional or not. The question isn't "Did you try to leave room?" but "Did you leave room?"
Secondly, there's no need to comment on every caution. Such things happen in the heat of action. Remember Round 1 Heat C (RB4), that was carnage, but nothing deliberate. So there's no need to justify your actions.
Just learn your lesson from it and head yourself forwards.
[Edit]
Oh, and I'm going practicing Fe6 now. Anyone with me?

Vain
It's ok Jak, nobodies pointing finger (well technically I am) or taking notes (er, no you're right I am again)... OK let me rephrase that, nobody is making mental notes and judging you - there's a HELL of a lot of steward inquiries from the 9 sessions - I count 34, that's because you've joined one of, if not the most, strictest sim racing leagues around, and isn't a reflection on your driving .

What i'm not sure, is if you are actually appealing the verdicts? Which bear in mind there's so much footage I tend to log things and make a verdict shall we say "quickly", I do rewatch things if needs be, but there's over 90 minutes of racing and over a dozen cars to watch, so I do make mistakes and willingly will recheck any you think are wrong, and deffer to the stewards panel on more serious incidents too.
Quote from Becky Rose :It's ok Jak, nobodies pointing finger (well technically I am) or taking notes (er, no you're right I am again)... OK let me rephrase that, nobody is making mental notes and judging you - there's a HELL of a lot of steward inquiries from the 9 sessions - I count 34, that's because you've joined one of, if not the most, strictest sim racing leagues around, and isn't a reflection on your driving .

What i'm not sure, is if you are actually appealing the verdicts? Which bear in mind there's so much footage I tend to log things and make a verdict shall we say "quickly", I do rewatch things if needs be, but there's over 90 minutes of racing and over a dozen cars to watch, so I do make mistakes and willingly will recheck any you think are wrong, and deffer to the stewards panel on more serious incidents too.

i know, but its a whole post dedicated to my misdemeanors, some i understand, but some i want to appeal, namely the "Round 2, Lap 8, Steakhouse Corner, 8+6
Car 8 overtook by use of excessive contact. Driver 8 CAUTIONED.", as the contact wasnt my choice, also, i wouldnt call my weaving excesive (or for tha matter weaving) BUT it does brake th STCC rules on blocking, so im in the wrong
OK, protest noted those two incidents will be reconsidered in more depth.
Quote from Becky Rose :OK, protest noted those two incidents will be reconsidered in more depth.

two? let me clarify - the contact and subsequent pass was something id like to appeal, but the so called weaving i admit was braking STCC rules
sorry! Got it.

Clerk, Failure to communicate, Page 10
The Clerk did fail to understand a clear and concise post made by a racer concerning an appeal due to low standard of competency. Clerk WARNED.
Quote from Becky Rose :sorry! Got it.

Clerk, Failure to communicate, Page 10
The Clerk did fail to understand a clear and concise post made by a racer concerning an appeal due to low standard of competency. Clerk WARNED.

i demand her STCC license be taken away!
Quote from Jakg :i demand her STCC license be taken away!

I strictly object that. Who's going to admin the league then?

Clerk, Failure to communicate, Page 10 REPEALED
Deemed posting incident. No penalty given.

Vain
Becky.. no wonder I couldn't find the conversation in PMs.. it didn't happen there, it happened here:-
Quote from SamH :Mike Hayward from UKCT would like to switch from RB4 to XRT with you if it's okay with Becky.

Becky, nod or shake?

Quote from Becky Rose :Sure you can swap cars *boggle* not sure it's the strategic thing to do for the Muroc team given the way the points and heat system work, but probably easier for setups.

Send in your skins and i'll update the entry list.

BTW: The series does have it's own forums - not that I mind the exposure here, but if you are not registered you're missing out .

Quote from Viper93 :Thats one big reason why I want to change, because of setups. I don't really care about points so much as having fun swapping paint with my teammates =) I will work out the skin I would be glad to switch SamH =)

I followed up this with the email that I re-sent last night. Please confirm you received the re-send.

Sorry for the dispute, Becky, but you did give the nod

S
Ah yes I vaguley recall it now, Mike swapped car with a Muroc driver didn't he - which explains how him being in an XRT doesn't breach the 8 car per class rule Gotcha.

OK i'm glad that little mystery is solved. Thanks for finding it Sam.
No prob! It had me baffled for a bit too.. I knew I'd never go to the effort of making and sending the UKCT skin for the XRT unless there was a very good reason, so I knew there was a papertrail out there somewhere!
I'm not sure you did send the skin, so ner! ...Well maybe that is my mistake too, so er - :shhh:
Quote from Becky Rose :I'm not sure you did send the skin, so ner! ...Well maybe that is my mistake too, so er - :shhh:

Did too!

Quote :From: Simon Hopkinson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 21 July 2006 00:56
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: UKCT XRT skin (Mikey's)



Mikey's XRT skin



Did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did... times however many times you say.. PLUS one!
Dare I say, Pwned? I think he has you there Becky, with his email, and the "Did, did, did, did,..." speech. Also, shouldn't you people be working? Along with me sleeping?
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STCC Sim Touring Car Cup
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