"Blow me", thats my no. plate.

Aussie Aussie Aussie....oy oy oy!!!

I guess not all gamers have G25 or a wheel with H shifter and a clutch pedal......I am lucky enough to have one, but some cant afford it, being poor maybe, and some just not competant enough to race well with a REAL manual setup, being too young and inexperienced enough maybe.

I would say it is a great idea to have "Forced Manual Shift" option in LFS. Just like "Forced Cockpit View" feature. Therefore only shifter users can enter and race, which makes it much more fair.

Just soften ur springs. V8 super cars do that to kerb hop. Just need to adjust other settings to suit.

Nurburgring is 32km long....ummmm somehow i dont think that will fit in the carpark area... also, even if u just jam a small section of it in the carpark, it wont feel the same, no up or down hills, no trees and track side objects etc like in GT4.

Just stick with GT4 or GTR evolution then... they r both good and have ur track.

yeah mate, I have triple checked that the fonts r installed. They are in the FONTS folder, and i have installed them the 3rd time now....

I also have the shortcut for lfs, as i always do with all my games, and the /insim=29999 command was added already.

So, what else to do mate?

I am not fussed about this insim command, i can always press the G5 button with a Macro, not fussed. Just the font is all stuffed up man, cropped, too bold, things not showing, time is all wrong etc. ta.

I just installed it, but the display is all stuffed. Numbers getting cut off, times are all wrong and speedo wont display anything over 100 kays. (135kays reads 35kays...) and all the little fonts r bulky as!

I have installed the fonts to relative directory, using Control Panel/Fonts/Install new fonts. So, wot am i doing wrong?

also, this mod wont work unless i type /insim 29999 in game. I have edited the txt as instructed tho...

Someone enlighten me plz. and James, i have PMed u.

Quote from nisskid :

FZ5 is like American drift, bigger power, bigger smoke, faster speeds, but clumsy agility, and sloppy transitions.

XRT is like Japanese drift, less power, less smoke, but easier to throw around, sharp transitions, and generally more precise.

people forget that drift is not powersliding, a strong drifting technique will allow u to drift a car with less than 100hp, watch a FZ5 drifter try and drift a XRG. drift is about weight transference and balance, not just putting ur foot down and power-oversteering. an XRT has superior balance and agility, therefore its a superior car for drift. and by drift i mean proper drift, not the americanised shit.

Yes, i completely agree there.

Most ppl use XRT because they are:

1. Lighter, better weight distribution, hence better balanced, like S14, s15 in real life, so when u doing switch backs, hairpins and donuts/polka, u wont lose it as easily as Fz5.

2. Once u have a good XRT drift set, u can do all the drift maneouvers with ease and u wont lose the angle and smoothness, while still create as much smoke as FZ5.

3. The looks maybe too, many of us have Silvia or FC or Skyline skins for XRT, the iconic looks for drift machines. U cant do that with a FZ5 which looks like a Ferrari.


Fz5 on the other hand:

1. Powerful and torquy, easy to do power overs, aka. power slides, BUT, drifting is not just power slides, because that's just the EXIT part, there's also the ENTRY part too. A drift is not a good one, if u grip upon entry and only power over upon exit....

2. Very heavy on the rear end, that will cause a lot of over steer from the start without trying. For u, it is good, only when tyres r fresh. But since it's rear end heavy, rear tyres will be gone in no time and soon u will spin out.

3. Being rear end heavy also means lack of balanced weight, that means when doing a switch back, u cant swing as aggressively, otherwise u will easily risk a spin out.

4. Longer wheel base, good for fast sweepers, combined with higher power, it is a really good machine at WE rev. BUT, again, it is a hindrance when it comes to tighter corners, especially linked corners, eg. FE green rev.

5. FZ5 Sounds mad tho. I tuned my sound and it sounds like a MEAN V8! thats about it all. hehe.

If u wanna drift in a XRT as well as FZ5, i suggest tune ur XRT set, put in more over steer, but dont sacrifice too much for stability.

If u like, u can download this version i made a while ago. thanx.

Last edited by drift_apprentice, Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:46.

If it's still under warrenty, then send it back and tell them the problem. Let them determin and fix wot ever is needed. DO NOT open it if under warrenty! IF they say it's physical damage or user abuse, and rejectes ur claim, THEN do a DIY repair.

Thanks race king, u r the man!!!

thanks race king. Yeah, seperate pics for those 3 skins will be good, and lower viewing angle you know, thats bit too high, almost showing off the roofs. thankx

can some one please do these for me>?? thanks in advance.

ps, to save the effort of flaming me for apparently stealing other ppl's private skins, I just wanna declare that I am in Team D1, so these xrt skins belong to me, the first 2 even has my custom surname on it. The UFR one was a gift from a friend.

Last edited by drift_apprentice, Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:52.

OH yeah, go for it man!

Opened a can of worms! Just like what I expect!

I agree with some of you guys, I was only suggesting, PLEASE, no need to get personal, I was not saying "WE MUST HAVE AN ARCADE MODE!!!!" or similar, wasn't I? After all, this is only the "improvement SUGGESTION" area.

You have an idea, put in on the table, let's all hear it and put in our constructive criticism, NOT personal attacks!! Especially regarding my short hand writing etc.

As I said, everyone has a different taste, so we have different interests. Instead of backing up ur idea with a valid background, some of u guys just jump in and talk like ruthless teenagers. So well educated!! A lot of ppl here try to insult other in every way they can. I'm so sick of it from reading all the threads.

For god's sake, it is not a war zone here....

Hi Devs and all,

May I suggest that we need to increase the "cooling down speed" of the over heated tyres.

I am a drifter and a racer. (I know I have now opened a can of worms!!!) I know lots of u dont like drifting and think it is a load of crap and hate all drifters. But i enjoy the excitement of it, and its challenge for car control and unique techniques.

Every man has a different taste, so let's leave it at that...One thing I found in Patch Y was that tyres heat up so much quicker, within a lap or so. But they dont cool down quick enough.

If i was driving at 140km/h or faster in a straight line, combined with the rotational speed of the tyres at that road speed, the amount of wind chill effect on the tyre surface should be quite a lot and should cool the tyres down far quicker than it is now. Current values seem just way to small and unrealistic.

Also once they r red, overheated, they seem like ice, which gives no consistancy in grip levels and that is so different from real life.

In conclusion, may I say:

1. tyres need to cool down MUCH faster than now (when driving straight)

2. tyres should not feel like they r ice blocks when over heated.

3. grip level should be bit more consistant

Also, can I also suggest an "Arcade Mode" in LFS. It just keeps the tyre grip levels at a constant value (eg. green colour) not matter wot u do, along with other stuff like fuel level (weight/balance) etc. It should be very useful for testing and making a setup.

When u start LFS, an option comes up first, "arcade" or "simulation", then u play the game of ur choice. Same for multi player games, server chooses what game it will run and an option shows up next to the server's name on the server list, "arcade", just like "can reset" etc.

My 5 cents any way.

about bloody time mate!

this mod doesn't work...

Thanx for all ur input guys! very much appriciated! Looks like i will get one very soon then!

hi all,

as my title says, it is worth it? Would i get a "stretched" display? Otherwise it looks crap and i dont wanna get one. Wheels and dials will look oval instead of round...

I just installed .Net 2.0 from MS, now if i click on LFSRelax.exe, a DOS window comes up and says "Error loading ./PB/txt or file does not exist yet! Connecting........"

Whats next? So frustrating!!

i have no idea what u r talking about....

Whats that? maybe not by the sounds of my reply....

Flinty72, i still cant install it.

I followed ur steps exactly, opened the rar file, put the bin folder in the LFS folder, then opened LFS and set insim to 29999 etc, but when I come back to open the LFSRelax.exe, an error message comes up as I use to get :"The application failed to initialize properly (0x0000135). Click ok to terminate"

WTF?? still cant get it going man!

Smoke mod doesnt work with my X10 version, where do u guys get a working version?? thanks