Nice list. Maybe Frex should be there too.

Polyracer, your post (with the huge quote) is much worse than what you criticise. I'm one of those who like to know what's available and to make up my own mind, so I find those information useful. I don't see a good reason to react that way for some additional information added by a cockpit producer who also has a fresh S2 license.

This is the one I love most (apologies if it has been linked before, but it's still relevant).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPRpA_I7mw

Quote from The Moose :

Well yes, but its even more stupid asking the question in the first place.
Anyone who knows anything about sim racing knows that consoles just don't do sims.

That's why I spoke, but I didn't vote in this poll

I don't see anything particularly bad in the video. The moves seem pretty legitimate to me, and the slight contact seems to be the outcome of a defensive move in the heat of a battle for position. I really can't see anyone who's at fault.

I suppose that the best answer would be based on two factors, the first one being the different nature of arcades and simulations. Simulations require more CPU power because the behaviour of the simulator must be as close as possible to a specific ideal model, and the ideal model is - in this case - reality. This is a very complex task, and more accuracy requires more CPU power.

So, how does the PS3 compare to, for instance, a Pentium 4 2.6 GHz in terms of raw CPU power?
Take, for instance, this benchmark, Playstation 3 vs PIV. The PIV outperforms the PS3, and as of now is quite an old CPU.

Of course benchmarks have a limited meaning for a number of different reasons, and their results can be always disputed. But from what I'd see, since raw power is needed for sims, an old PIV is the winner in this case.

The debate on performance could go on for ages since it can be quite complex and prone to error, so any correction (and additional comparisons) would be welcome.

The second factor is the market, which influences different philosophies. For the PS3 is mostly plug in, switch on, play. For the PC it's quite varied since PC users are much more prone to using their computers for a lot of things, including gaming (and sims, of course). You have a much different user base, and this influences the production of differently aimed products. Therefore for PC users it may be much easier to cope with the hassles of a sim, since they already cope with the hassle of a PC because of the additional advantages on a console.

So the answer to the poll is - at least for me - is the PC, without a doubt.

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Quote from Technique :

So I'm guessing "riding the clutch" for several minutes does nowhere near the same amount of damage as one ~5000rpm clutch dump?

AFAIK there's no clutch damage, just clutch temperature, and this could explain this behaviour.

I gladly welcome the start of the deBotwanaisation of the LFS World

I imagine an occasional visitor stumbling on this forum and saying, "hey, so many people from Botswana, what's this all about?", and he starts reading until he figures out the nonsense

(Just consider this post of mine a keepalive , candadints must survive. Hand me my ticket to Hell, please :nod

Precisely. That's why we don't talk about Botswana.

Edit: well, maybe a bit, lately

I sincerely have big troubles in understanding the points you'd like to make so I'll avoid chopping up the understandable bits to answer. Forgive me, but the language barrier doesn't help.

Edit: I just hope this thread doesn't transform in a reportage on the influence of Botswana in this forum. I see the danger.

Quote from ColeusRattus :

True, but for me they tend to get dusty quite quickly, so I simply jammed a cardboard box between my pedals and the wall.

In my case they tend to slide a lot more than Momo pedals, since pedals are stiff (and I like it that way) and require much more force. Hence, they slide more.

I currently use a little carpet; the legs of the chairs block the carpet and subsequently the G25 (setup for carpet). It's a bit elastic so you have to stretch, but for me it's better than slowly and then suddenly sliding pedals.

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Yep... keep in mind that the moronic uranium documents from Niger were fabricated here... but we were quick to dismiss them and pass them to the Americans

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

I know it's fun to say this stuff, but on a day to day basis, for rational Americans, life in the US is probably much like life in the UK or any other developed nation.

Agreed.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

We just have funnier/more ridiculous headlines.

Disagreed. How dare you compare to us Italians...

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

I've not heard a word from Renault about their own spy case, or complaints from Mclaren that Renault were not punished, or complaints from them about how harsh their punishment was. Instead they have left it behind in 2007, where it belongs.

It belongs also to 2008, but maybe you're unaware. At McLaren, they're aware. Just read their press releases.

About complaints, McLaren was forced to issue corrections about the information they gave to the press about Renault, exaggerating the extent of the spying by Renault. Talk about media manipulations.

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Quote from 5haz :

Lets not forget that the 'scandal' also involved a Ferrari employee, but strangely, Ferrari are not punished at all??

To be honest I find both alarming and amusing so many people are completely unaware of intellectual property laws and issues, so they come to the conclusion that theft is acceptable and that robbed people are guilty too.

Putting the burden of guilt on the damaged part won't help making things look better for McLaren.

Just a hint, though: if you'll ever be damaged by a person you trusted don't come here complaining, some people have good long term memory.

Quote from pine-fin :

I would love to comment on u.s. politics on that matter

Oh, you don't have to. You just have to ask yourself if you'd be comfortable - in your Country - with the legal definition of person being based on nationality.

Electrik Kar, that's true to some extent, but we should distinguish what's happening on a mass scale and what happens on an individual basis, and a global view suggests that Orwell is still right because people are lazy on subjects they aren't interested in, even when those subjects have a much deeper influence on their life than they can comprehend.

Orwell wrote his books to bring particular issues under the spotlight; on some of those issues he succeeded. Yet, when Huxley claimed that his Brave New World was a more accurate hypothesis he was right: it's easier to convince and dumb down people than to force their brain into oblivion. In this respect 1984 is a less accurate black Utopia than the Brave New World. Let's remind that both books are however intended not as a depiction of truth, but as harsh warnings.

Jumping back to the real world, the Internet has had an impact on availability of information, but there are still huge visibility issues caused by the lazyness I talked about.

The l33t King's opinional video linked by Gabkicks is interesting since that guy has a strong opinion about YouTube manipulating the videos to give better visibility to some and hide others. Confusing availability and visibility these days is easy, and no matter what we may think about the availability of news on the Internet, I can also see an unacceptable degree of manipulation, and there are a lot of people who are so lazy they think that a vote is just a way to delegate powers.

I don't think so. I think that a vote is also an assumption of responsibility in backing someone, or at least I'd feel that way if I backed - for instance - Bush. I prefer to be an independent thinker, with all my limits, and so I always look for something different than what's usually proposed by media and popular taste since they are no indication of quality. That's, incidentally, the way I've come to know LFS when I became more interested in simulators.

Edit: Hankstar, your rethorical question was however meaningful since there can be a certain amount of self-complacency in one's predictions. On Mission Accomplished day I wrote in my blog that the war wasn't over, it yet had to start. Okay, it was easy, but I have been proven right along with a lot of people who had much less information about Iraq at hand than the US Government did. Being right doesn't make me happy, though. It's simply a matter of fact, just as the ugliness of truth was a matter of fact for Orwell. In this case I would have preferred to be right and happy, just as Orwell, and he acted to achieve that result.

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Anyway here's another pearl of wisdom:

"Because the plaintiffs are aliens and were located outside sovereign United States territory at the time their alleged RFRA claim arose, they do not fall with the definition of 'person,'"

Time to drop common sense in favour of good sense.

I don't know... it could be Cheney for me

Edit: I think that Orwell would be disgusted, he was a man that backed up his words and his political thought with strong actions. Even the most questionable actions of his are consistent with the development of his philosophy and he didn't have a 'me first' attitude, so overall he'd have preferred a different evolution.

Re-edit: I watched the l33t King's vid. The expression is rather simplistic (not that I would do better in spoken language anyway), but the content is correct.

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I'm a monomaniac. George Orwell. And I'd guess you'd probably liked to meet him in real life, if it could have been possible. I would have liked it.

Geez, the guy in the background has sniffed too much coke.
(I'll listen to it lately however.)

Incidentally, we now know it snows in Hell.

Quote from Hankstar :

And we're back to nasty politics
As if there's another kind anyway.

Ahhh...

In our age there is no such thing as "keeping out of politics." All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred, and schizophrenia.

Guess (or google) who?

I think that Cue-Ball is on a losing side from a practical point of view: although I live in no heaven my town is extremely peaceful and the number of murders related to gun violence - a single episode last year - is more or less the same than in Kirkland with roughly the same population, even more, except for the fact that we don't need citizens to carry weapons to achieve that result. To that I'll add the ability to carry a gun isn't a measure of what I perceive as freedom since I'm living in an environment which is almost free from weapons, except for the American nukes in the nearby Aviano base (nobody wants 'em, take them back!) and for guns entering from ex-Yugoslavia (edit: add to that Italian production too, but it's far more controlled).

It would be a long debate (it already is) and for various reasons I'm only occasionally interested to speak my mind: suffice to say that I'm more interested in the topic than in the off-topic, that our Republic is way younger than the US one and was born from disgust and tiredness for certain methods.

Yet I have to say that Gunn's feelings are quite clear to me: paraphrasizing Fugazi, although regrettable if observed under the light of political correctness his words are spiritually direct. As for their usefulness I cannot judge, but Gunn's always been outspoken about what he thinks, no matter the subject and personal costs, and I'll always prefer his straight and open talk to the hypocrisy of the cowards who can't accept criticism.

Quote from wien :

OHNOES! The democrat mafia got him. Run! Save yourselves! :eek:

That must have been the revenge of his god for a missing capital letter. You know, statistically gods have been very picky about prayers.

All this ballet of numbers without sources is giving me a bit of headache.

Anyway I can talk only about my experience and all things considered I can say that I don't feel insecure when I don't have my gun by my side. Oh, and of course I don't have a gun.