Sorry, but there's no reason to answer such a question, and there's no good justifications to tell the reasons to all the forum. So, after a careful evalutaion I decided I won't answer to you anymore until under extreme need.
I think that the people who can understand already guessed why I consider this to be the best choice, and informing you of my motivations would be a waste of time.
Consider this a victory, if you want to score a point. I'm not here for this reason.
No, it won't last long. He's equating 'suffering a defeat' to 'advocate a destruction'. Just as saying that suffering the defeat of Vietnam the US were destroyed. We all know it isn't so. Such a moronic equation is self-defeating, and lizardfolk demonstrates once again the quality of his reasoning, which amounts to slander, in this case.
Truly disgusting. That's all.
Edit: (Archivist mode on) Xaotik, we have another palooka here! (Archivist mode off)
You have quoted, exactly, nothing. Please provide a reliable source where such advocation of destruction of Israel can be attributed to Finklestein, since in that lousy commentary I saw none. Not even the sentence you quote. You obviously have problems with English.
Where, exactly? And mind, you, I'm not asking because I've no understanding of what Finkelstein says or means: I do, and I agree. I just need you to exactly document a sentence of yours.
Please provide exact link with exact quotes, please.
You're missing many, many points. I can agree that the creation of Israel was a mistake, but if you seem to believe that I consider the destruction of Israel as a solution you're utterly wrong.
To follow your moronically hypothetical path, the only thing I have to demonstrate is that if all people - including Arabs and Israelis - thought what I think, there would be no war, and no violently dead people. Sounds idiotic? It is. An idiotic answer sometimes is the correct one, especially if the question is idiotic.
If saying that you're behaving like a disturbing simpleton is insulting, I accept my insult to you as a matter of fact.
Your last questions is purely hypothetical since it refers to facts that didn't happen. If things went that way... they didn't. Any consideration about that would be an excercise of style with no practical meaning. Just as your question.
I think your question is stupid, rethorical and offensive. As such it deserves only an improper answer.
I know what I want: I'd like that people like you, who have a penchant for simplifying, wouldn't attribute their simplifications to people who have demonstrated to you - even harshly - they have spent much more time and brains than you did or you'll ever do on some issues.
Age and education matter. Call it experience, if you like. Don't insult it, and don't insult the intelligence of people who are talking to you, next time.
I guess there's no translation in English, maybe whateverism, the feeling that things never change, don't have any emotional content and no meaning. Whatever it is, it is, and if it's different, it's the same.
It's an apparently light form of cynicism, extremely diffused. To tell the whole truth I don't think Racer Y is just as his words sometimes are, I don't know him so well to say something so personal.
I'll just consider his dismissive tone a useless way to say that, no matter the facts presented, he'll stick to his own opinion. Once again, no wonder. I don't expect people to change opinion. At least, not suddenly.
Fact is, a lot of people have lost (or never had) their individuality to favour some sort of collective identity where consensus counts more than personality, to the point that facts no longer form opinions: opinions form facts. It's a vicious epic to which I'll always prefer the fragmentation of modernity.
All I can say about that is that Hacohen's piece addresses the suicide bombers' tactics and reasons effectively, for me. There's no sense in quoting it since the whole piece is about this kind of tactics.
There's no way, however, to turn subfactions one against each other since the real problem stems from an occupation. The only way for something like that to happen would be to give complete satisfaction to the internal factions. In other words such a deadlock can't be easily solved, or flattened to a single, partial and one-sided point of view. It's a complex situation that demands complex answers, and a lot of pain to come.
...and you have to take into account that those maps only show the land. Resources such as water are not shown, and water is extremely important there. A map containing the appropriation of resources would be pretty damning for Israel too.
Israel, however, did build a separation wall from Palestine to stop suicide bombers, and it has been partially effective. They didn't build it exactly on the 1967 Green Line, though: they managed to take some more land.
Racer Y, considerations about gangsters aside you have just described (almost) perfectly one of the most despisable aspects of Israeli tactics on the field. But, just as the US in Iraq, the IDF must stick to terrorist tactics since a cleaner approach to the enemy would lead to much heavier losses on their side, and this would lead to the end of the occupation. And this tells you how vicious occupations are since they add a sense of corruption that can't be easily shaken away. Military wise, there's no honour in such methods.
I agree with your analysis, and I thought such a thing could never happen in this forum.
Edit: about this issue there's a piece of Ran HaCohen which I deem particularly interesting: Israel - A Suicide Bomber?
Emergency, same usual trolling and same devious attacks from the same usual persons in this forum. And they think they have a good sense of humour too... Standards are really going downhill.
Yes, I take some issues seriously. Trolling is one of them.
Edit: and quality of humour is a serious issue too! You simply don't make me laugh, TC.
This wasn't a quick thing, for me. Just take into account in how many different ways someone managed to be disruptive in only two threads and you'll see that my conclusion about him is only due to both repeated and diversified questionable actions, along with only partial admissions without a single hint of awareness, or respect. Too many justifications but absolutely no apologies.
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Reason : correcting my own English mistakes as much as I'm able to.
Although far from being important since you already lost all my respect for your questionable tactics before your lovable friends joined in the fray, there are some people who have two licenses here and they don't do it for trolling.
Bringing in your friends wasn't a smart idea, but I've got used to not so smart ideas.
I maintain this post of yours was some sort of 'revenge posting' (similar to that of Racer X, but deceiving) to demonstrate something. Unfortunately you hid too many information and now you have no credibility whatsoever to my eyes.
Edit: to be clear, I don't know if your friends are imaginary or not, but I can keep that curiosity for myself since it doesn't matter anymore to me.
Santayana wrote that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. You find that inscription when you enter the concentration camp in Auschwitz.
For me it doesn't count who you are or where you come from, assuming nationality is part of one's identity. What you remember, and how you apply it to yourself and others, is much more important.
You're just trolling with your confusion, and putting an additional burden on others. Be precise next time with your lousy titles, since your previous behaviour grants interpretations such as mine. Oh, and change your avatar. Use a clown.
Edit: I think you were doing some sort of experiment with your lack of clarity, willfully searching for erroneous interpretations of your quote. If it's so, shame on you.
Re-edit: next time, if you use titles like that, please post a link to the radio debate since you say the title isn't yours (read this as: you infer the title was made up by you interpretating a radio debate you didn't document). Otherwise you're hiding an important element for your own convenience. If you don't have such link, shame on you again, since you have no proof to back your own words. And STOP TRYING TO PLAY WITH PEOPLE, I'm not your toy.