The limit should be increased on those circuits where in real life the track licence would allow it. For example, Le Mans, Sebring and Petit Le Mans have 56 cars, Spa had 62 for the 24 hour race, you can see the formula for working it out in the FIA regs (for international events).

Quote from Kristi :

Will there be download link, or youtube?

Nope, none of the broadcasts anyone has done in the history of LFS have ever had download or youtube links so why would this one be any different?

The issue with MySQL 4.1+ authentication is that PHP 4 doesn't support it, therefore you can't run the local tracker. I did try the local tracker with PHP 5, however there were a few errors so I'd need to try and fix them - but I don't really know the differences well enough between the versions to do it quickly

Quote from Kova. :

Well so, if all drivers are like that on all races, all championships confused, so i'll be like that on futures races.

If you have issues with specific pieces of driving and it is worthy of a protest then please do, otherwise you are simply saying that you have no problem with it.

Sorry Yann I already have someone for the race directing, perhaps you can do the French catering to help tempt these manufacturers back?

Quote from Mustafur :

one had credibility and was watched internationally the other is pretty much ametuer and lucky to find any people outside uk watching it.

mid 90s was the era i was aiming at though.

No good having credibility and international viewers if you are down to 3 manufacturers in 2000 who clearly would eventually stop supporting the costs of running 3 cars each to Super Touring regs.

And surely it was the fact that there were international drivers brought international viewers, who were there because manufacturers wanted the best drivers? Therefore with fewer manufacturers bringing less international drivers, of course less people outside the UK are going to watch. But outside of the UK isn't the core market for BTCC sponsors so although it's nice to be shown around the world, it's not that important.

Quote from E.Reiljans :

Even worse T1's? Nothx.

Spectators can affect T1?

Quote from Mustafur :

S2000 whilst cheap has pretty much killed the european touring car scene.

Its not even 1/10th of how good Super Touring was.

Give me a full grid of S2000/NGTC cars over 11 Super Tourers any day. Compare BTCC 2000 to 2011 - TV coverage, entrants, battles, cost of running a team and there's only one winner.

Quote from Hahmo :

What on earth were those TV cam angles..

Ones made by the Kingsburys I'm sure, there's proper ones in the TVD thread if they want it.

Are you saying that there were previously people in TRR who you didn't really want in the team, who were slow and didn't know how to behave? Not sure how having the same people in charge would change any of that...

Magnus not driving, wow, few would have predicted that...

Quote from ajp71 :

Rolling starts are becoming more common in European motorsport, bizarrely this move has come from historic racing classes where the move has been made because it is considered safer, mainly because it reduces the risk of start line transmission failures in old cars. I know a number of UK club series have made the move to rolling starts next year on the grounds of safety, personally I think it'll be unmitigated disaster. Most UK racers are inexperienced with rolling starts and when it does go wrong on a rolling start it hurts a lot more, there was the serious start accident at the 2008 Britcar 24 hours and a similar accident with less serious consequences in a Britcar race in 2009.

Only time I've seen rolling starts at Knockhill off the top of my head is with Legends and British GT, Classics have run there for years with standing starts. Andy Neate's crash was because he hit the outisde wall at the s/f and bounced back onto the track obviously a rolling start didn't help but he'd be fine at the new Silverstone.

Quote from ajp71 :

This is probably the biggest difference, in the UK the only officially sanctioned motorsport body is the MSA, the national affiliate body of the FIA. All FIA affiliate clubs use the same basic FIA rules for all levels of competition, but do have some leeway for local variation in the rules. Licensing and appeals and tribunals all happen at a national or international level.

That is true, I didn't realise until I read the ALMS rules with the IMSA code that basically every big series in the US has its own sanctioning body like the MSA over here. In the UK it's just one sanctioning body, but a good few organising clubs which run series, under MSA rules.

Well given some servers are still running, you will either get one from the person who you have the current one from or I'm sure Franky will be able to set one up for you on the working IP.

Not sure what climatic conditions have to do with LFS servers though

Hopefully it's right (didn't know whether to do 2011/2012 or just 2012), I copied the MoE 09/10 schedule format from the second post

Last edited by boothy, Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:17.

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Well we will surely do it for LFSF peeps in week 13, if not before.

You've done 59 miles online in LFS - you haven't even touched the amazing bit of the game which is online multiplayer racing, you don't need shitty looking low quality BMWs and Nissans to have great racing.

Quote from chanoman315 :

Is there a LFSers iRacing league or something? I really hate that I have to wait a lot for sessions and stuff

What series are you running? If it's just rookie then you have 3 cars you can be racing/qualifying/practicing to keep you busy...

And in fact this week you can do the Grand Touring Cup at Summit Point.

So the program says someone overtook under SC. Why would drivers do that? Do they think that they can get away with it? That says more about the admins, penalties applies for overtaking under SC and other drivers if they don't protest it.

But would you be entirely confident of the program's accuracy? I wouldn't and would probably feel the need to double check it before giving someone a race ruining penalty.

Generally with competent admins, hefty penalties and drivers that report passing under SC or who fall into line in close calls, there's no real need for this.

No problem, for anyone else that has the same issues:

1. it should be $mainLogoSrc and $mainLogoLink in config.php
   
2. if you have not defined any classes in config.php or teams.yaml/.csv, then you need to change line 149 of stats.php to
   
<?php 
        if ($XMLRACE['numClasses'] > 1) {
?>


3. change max_execution_time to
   
<?php 
ini_set('max_execution_time', 90);
?>


   - i.e. with quotation marks
   

These will be included in the main zip when I next update the tracker with more stuff.

That's the OTM you twat

Quote from 5haz :

(In the UK this is signified by stationary yellow flags and a board with 'SC' on it displayed at each marshals post

You mean waved yellow flags + SC boards.

Generally the difference between SCs/FCCs are what they are brought out for, and their length. If you had watched Petit Le Mans for instance, you'd know they are brought out in America when generally in the rest of the world they'd be covered by waved yellows and a snatch vehicle. And they last a lot longer, when you've got the danger cleared away within a lap or two, the pits are still closed and the pass by is being conducted, then the pits open for LMP/GT on separate laps, then you have the wave by, and finally back to green after what seems like ages.

Just do some searching on youtube for various international series "le mans 2011 crash" etc will get you plenty of stuff to watch and see the differences.

Actually just remembered that the Britcar 24 hour race at Silverstone was red flagged a couple of years ago in the late night/morning due to fog - basically if you can't see the next marshals' post you know there's a visibility problem!

You also have things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?f ... e&v=KzbxytdHnQE#t=40s where the last cars on a 1:16 lap collide and the car is out of the way before the leaders come back round!

Last edited by boothy, Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:55.

Quote from tinvek :

ITV actually stated that they did not want F1, and there's no way C4, C5 etc would be able to come up with the budget, channel 4 just made £40 million profit in total in 2010 and channel 5's former owners lost that much financing it in the first 6 months of 2010. given that BBC had to cut their costs and given that bernie has shown before now that he's quite prepared to not make a deal rather than cut the cost of it, the sky solution is probably the best outcome that was going to happen.

You forgot about http://www.graphicalhouse.co.uk/projects/channel-4 and the fact that even if Channel 4 went to Bernie with shitloads of £, he couldn't do anything because the BBC had the contract:

Quote from Bernie :

“I spoke with ITV too, and came up with the same problem as Channel 4 had. We had a contract with the BBC which didn’t run out until 2014.”

Asked if the BBC “held all the cards” when it came to selecting a co-broadcaster, Ecclestone insisted: “Yes, absolutely.

“If they (Channel 4) had said they wanted to sign a contract today to start broadcasting for 45 million pounds a year, then we would have probably done it.

“But that’s the problem. We couldn’t deal with them, even if they had wanted to.”

Hmm that's a strange thing with the main image and empty position - any chance you could zip up your tracker folder and database, then PM/email them to me? Thanks

I had thought about that feature request, the problem is though the tracker doesn't really know when a new session has started. I could however make a page in the admin section which would delete/move the html files, I'll have a look into that.

I'm not sure if Jack Basford or Paul Chapman could even sustain this argument, so well done on that front. Though I am half expecting Jack to come into this thread at some point saying we're victimising My3id...

The penalty was given to you for a reason, if you have a problem with the penalty then please put forward your reasoning as to why you were harshly penalised, I'd love to hear them, and I'm sure all of your fellow competitors would as well.

You should also explain to the other teams out there, a) why you think that ruining other teams races is ok and shouldn't be punished and b) why you think that you should get out of the grid penalty by changing your team name.

Quote from loud_rocker :

I'm new and am not sure by what you mean by "you need to be in AU1 to see those layouts"

Go to single player, select Autocross and the layouts beginning with AU1_ should appear on the list.

To access those that sinanju mentioned, you need to press ctrl and an X and Y should appear beside the list of tracks - click on X to access, for example, FE1X_ layouts.