Could you give me source on that rule because as for now it seems to me you made something up to prove me wrong when in reality there is no such a rule.
Analogically when in restaurant i eat soup which is a bit too salty do you want to tell me i cant tell chief about it?
Anyway I wonder are devs really dont care what users think about their work?
Well according to you they dont i guess you have your sources and stuff.
Ok guys we can back off devs dont care about you anymore nor your opinion cuz this guy said so and he know for sure.
They cared about you and your opinions in the beginning but obviously its not the case now.
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Remainings from one of the most epic threads on 4chan.
Who remember it will probably find it funny who dont probably shrug.
If you get offended easily by language then this is not the link you looking for:color:
If you are under 15 or get offended by blood and sh
t or suffer from some other fary then dont click here>Implying moaning and constructive criticism are the same.
I bet he went to police just after that to report being robbed by armed vendor, one way or another money in your cash register will be mine
He probably meant lfs is dying for users, devs can play Frankenstein as long as they want
For me lfs neither dead nor alive I might get some interest in it depending on the decision of devs or i might not.
For me 20 cars and 6 tracks is not enough, i cant imagine how are you people can play this for so much years i dont remember any game with so little content i played for this long its just beyond being monotonous.
Even if there will be 3 new tracks and 5 new cars (2015 probably
)i still wont be able to play it for years.
The only thing I am still waiting are mods if there wont be mods soon then I am still wont be disappointed much.
I dont even play lfs anymore because if you want to amount anything in any online game you have to spend a lot of time unless you want to be mediocre player who never gets on top of the stats.
And i dont want to waste my time on game which get boring long time ago and have no future in my eyes as it is now.
Also word to those guys who are blessing devs at every post (btw i never seen so much vaseline never b4) you can bless devs as much as you want but you are the cancer that killing lfs
Because you are the ones who send message to devs that they can do nothing and still this is "the best game eva" but not only you encourage the devs to do nothing or nothing more than they absolutely have to or want to. You even silence anyone who dares to think otherwise, or just send them to play other games like lfs its for you only and others have no rights or voice here.
You halt lfs development most among all the users of this forum especially those users who joined in 2010 and yet they want to fit in this most noisy part of the community so they dare to whine that lfs doesnt need updates when they didnt even have time to get bored by it.
Also the argument that "devs didnt promise any updates" or that "its their project so they dont have to give you anything", its like saying thats devs did that game for themselves and or making money only and dont care for their users not a little bit.
Anyway why make game for someone who you dont even care about, only to make cash i guess.
Maybe at the beginning lfs was a hobby when devs listened to users and made this game with passion but now its doesnt look like this...
For me lfs neither dead nor alive I might get some interest in it depending on the decision of devs or i might not.
For me 20 cars and 6 tracks is not enough, i cant imagine how are you people can play this for so much years i dont remember any game with so little content i played for this long its just beyond being monotonous.
Even if there will be 3 new tracks and 5 new cars (2015 probably
)i still wont be able to play it for years.The only thing I am still waiting are mods if there wont be mods soon then I am still wont be disappointed much.
I dont even play lfs anymore because if you want to amount anything in any online game you have to spend a lot of time unless you want to be mediocre player who never gets on top of the stats.
And i dont want to waste my time on game which get boring long time ago and have no future in my eyes as it is now.
Also word to those guys who are blessing devs at every post (btw i never seen so much vaseline never b4) you can bless devs as much as you want but you are the cancer that killing lfs
Because you are the ones who send message to devs that they can do nothing and still this is "the best game eva" but not only you encourage the devs to do nothing or nothing more than they absolutely have to or want to. You even silence anyone who dares to think otherwise, or just send them to play other games like lfs its for you only and others have no rights or voice here.
You halt lfs development most among all the users of this forum especially those users who joined in 2010 and yet they want to fit in this most noisy part of the community so they dare to whine that lfs doesnt need updates when they didnt even have time to get bored by it.
Also the argument that "devs didnt promise any updates" or that "its their project so they dont have to give you anything", its like saying thats devs did that game for themselves and or making money only and dont care for their users not a little bit.
Anyway why make game for someone who you dont even care about, only to make cash i guess.
Maybe at the beginning lfs was a hobby when devs listened to users and made this game with passion but now its doesnt look like this...
I thought this is the /b/ of lfs
Must be a dog thing
Dat timing 
Naw dude I dont know from where you get those memory cards but put them where they were initially, I doubt they would help, gotta be placebo or sumffin
And In case you meant RAM then yeah that could help.
Also since problem is in multiplayer it could be two things either your connection or you graphic card/processor cant handle it when you enter the server with 25-40 ppl.
Since we dont know what do you have inside of your PC case In b4 laptop
I suggest you post your system spec like:
OS.
Graphic card.
Processor.
Ram.
Motherboard.
DO YOU HAVE NEWEST DRIVERS INSTALLED etc.
Because as for now it could be as well your PC and we wouldn't know it.
Also if you did system reinstall or changed anything.
What can I say, starting tonight you will dine in hell
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Do you find some kind of perverted pleasure in quoting images when you know its annoy everyone who use display image feature.
I am just wondering are you trying to troll or just too stupid or retarded to edit your post and delete the image tag or replace it with brief description of a picture.
>Implying a good driver wouldn't drift a GTR car
Also the fact you can drift in LFS speaks in favour of LFS very much (Those who tried to drift in rFactor know what I am talking about)
Also the fact you can drift in LFS speaks in favour of LFS very much (Those who tried to drift in rFactor know what I am talking about)
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Well they are not bad but I would like more elevation changes during turns, more bumpy road etc also a lot of corners are very simple i would like to see more long corners tightens in the end etc. (You know make it harder to drive)
Anyway they were pretty fun to drive for the first hundred times
No one is gonna force you to download and play a shitty track but to me a new track is a new layout and new challenge, while playing rfactor and GTL i tried a lot of tracks and i have to say that the weakest point of any track was rarely layout.
Usually it was bad textures, not enough models around the track which makes whole thing look deserted etc.
So in short words its hard to screw a layout (You need real talent do that)
And if its a visual side then most of the mods will still beat LFS hands down because as for now tracks in LFS (Except south city and fern bay) are deserted, empty and generally boring visually. in b4 I dont have time to admire surroundings while driving
You might want to look for a work of Virtua-Lm modding group (They are making mods for rFactor and GTL ) to see how a well done mod looks like.
I mean yes there will be bad mods so what, you dont have to play them and you still get tons of top quality stuff.
You cant really say its not worth it.
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I am pretty sure that "Eric is working on more S3 content" its not really the best answer because its only Eric
He is not releasing stuff very often, only 6 tracks till now (Without the test area) So he might work on the new content but it doesnt mean LFS will swarm with new tracks or cars, in fact this probably means we will get one new track with scirocco and two tracks later (Since S1/2 have 3 tracks each i think this would be the case in S3 also)
So the only way you can get more content is either trough modding or hiring more devs, and neither of them look like a possible occurrence by now.
Yes there will be more content but one new car/track every two years doesnt really look like all that much content.
Edit: Unless modding will be allowed in S3 as Scaven mentioned once (Which is actually make sense because why S1 or S2 users would buy S3 when they can just mod S1 to beat S3 in therms of content.
On the side note I wonder how much this tyre physics change car behaviour I mean its only a tyre and LFS was pretty realistic already so I wouldnt expect anything radical here.
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Well you quoted Scaven who said that AI will make better use of available grip and car capabilities while the main issue here is the fact that Ai just doesnt want to acknowledge you and the only thing Scaven said about this issue is.
So even if there will be new AI I am afraid it will be only faster not smarter.
So even if there will be new AI I am afraid it will be only faster not smarter.
While I agree with your reasoning there is a few things to consider.
First there is only three devs.
And as far as I know Victor is responsible for sound, Eric for textures, cars, tracks, cockpit models etc. (visual stuff) and Scaven who is responsible for physics and basically everything else that moves LFS.
So that mean there is only one person to work on it and that person actually busy with physics and after physics there is long list of stuff that should be done (Here is the list)
And a lot of stuff on this list have much higher priority than AI in game which advertises as "Online racing simulator"
So it wont happen any time soon.
Which is kinda disappointing because personally I prefer racing ofline but with current AI you need to race with sphygmomanometer attached so you can turn off the game when your blood pressure raises to a dangerous level.
If your tires getting destroyed quickly you might turn too aggressively or break/accelerate too hard.
Taking corner with a little slide etc
The key is smoothness and keeping grip when turning as well as braking.
I had this problem until I downloaded this skid sounds those skids sounds are a lot better and louder than standard and I can hear when my tyres starting to lose grip much earlier than with standard sounds.
As a side effect i developed more or less skidless and clean driving style you definitely should check them.
Also you should give more details what are you using as a controller (I assumed you use the mentioned above controller if yes then, do you use analog input for steering, braking and throttle or digital) what kind of tyres etc.
But if you doing everything properly and still have tyres overheating problem its very possible its your driving style to blame.
Taking corner with a little slide etc
The key is smoothness and keeping grip when turning as well as braking.
I had this problem until I downloaded this skid sounds those skids sounds are a lot better and louder than standard and I can hear when my tyres starting to lose grip much earlier than with standard sounds.
As a side effect i developed more or less skidless and clean driving style you definitely should check them.
Also you should give more details what are you using as a controller (I assumed you use the mentioned above controller if yes then, do you use analog input for steering, braking and throttle or digital) what kind of tyres etc.
But if you doing everything properly and still have tyres overheating problem its very possible its your driving style to blame.
This is the worse part.
As one of the many people who play lfs I can say that i dont play LFS regularly.
I play lock on regularly, I played Red Orchestra for 3 years almost every day regularly, I play COH regularly.
I play LFS once in a month or even less.
Every time i start FLS i am in awe of how great the cars feels (FZ5 and LX6 are my personal fav).
But after some time i get bored because even if the game feels great I dont really find pleasure in racing online and for me its only good in time attack mode since AI is horrible.
So I am checking on the LFS site current wr for some combo and try to beat it.
But in longer therm there is not enough tracks and the one existing are getting so repetitive after a while that i cant look at it anymore after a hour and I just close LFS.
And its really lame that even tho the physics is great the game lack content so dramatically and the worse of it, one person just cant provide a lot of stuff its impossible for scaven to do more than just improve physics (Which is a good thing) but instead of allowing at least fan made tracks he chooses (Selfishly IMO)to keep the game to himself instead of allowing players get even more fun from it.
In the end All I am waiting for are mods because as I mentioned above the devs wont be able to provide much content.
PS. Whos waiting for new cockpits, I understand that physics need more work b4 releasing but what holding new cockpits?
At first I thought that new cockpits will be released with physics patch to make it look more significant but since physic patch being delayed for 2 years i think they would release those cockpits earlier if they had it.
And definitely making a new cockpit doesn't require years and years of work.
You can make a pretty decent looking cockpit in a few months well in case you actually working on it.
So from the look of it scaven work on physics and the rest of the devs?
Poor gingerbread's wearing red shirts
Hope they were tasty...
Well in that case I guess it would be easier just an additional folder for skins with reflection and exception to how LFS renders skins from that folder.
But the problem is who will be doing it as for now all i know is that Scaven the only one who can do it but i doubt he would spend time on that.
I dont quite remember how LFS handle this but somehow i think its download jpg then convert it to tga or dds so if lfs gonna treat dds differently it still messes the game up because the file you downloading is jpg without alpha channel and its being converted to dds or tga which support alpha channel. in the end it will treat skin which was created without alpha as skin with alpha even if there is no reflection layer.
I think i remember this solution from rFactor, if I am right it often resulted in chrome cars and big skin size but if made properly it looked really nice.
But the problem is who will be doing it
as for now all i know is that Scaven the only one who can do it but i doubt he would spend time on that.I dont quite remember how LFS handle this but somehow i think its download jpg then convert it to tga or dds so if lfs gonna treat dds differently it still messes the game up because the file you downloading is jpg without alpha channel and its being converted to dds or tga which support alpha channel. in the end it will treat skin which was created without alpha as skin with alpha even if there is no reflection layer.
I think i remember this solution from rFactor, if I am right it often resulted in chrome cars and big skin size but if made properly it looked really nice.
Actually that sound like a pretty good idea since transparency is not used anyway (Except sun roofs, hood holes etc)
I wonder how it would be during online game since skins of the other players would be converted from, jpg to dds (or tga, cant remember) does it mean the whole stake would be either too dull or too shiny.
To work correctly online it would required change of the skins format, allowed image size, etc.
I wonder how it would be during online game since skins of the other players would be converted from, jpg to dds (or tga, cant remember) does it mean the whole stake would be either too dull or too shiny.
To work correctly online it would required change of the skins format, allowed image size, etc.
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Well LFS was in development for so many years that i was expecting more content and faster development (Faster development definitely)
On polish site couple of years ago I saw an advertisement of LFS (Which basically was one of the reasons i bought LFS) saying stuff like
- LFS is in constant development.
- LFS developers are such a great guys, unlike most developers they actually listen to what users say and use their comments to determine the direction of development.
- Constantly growing fan base, etc)
Constant development mean its...erm..uumm, well this topic is great when it comes to explain how this constant development looks like.
I dont mind having better physics but concentrating only on physics is kinda disappointing especially that making at least a few track shouldn't be a challenge.
This great contact with customers and listening to them looks like "its done when its done".
And when it comes to this great fanbase well... A lot of threads posted here made me wonder whether OP is a fanboy, troll, disappointed customer or just a retard.
Cant apply it to everyone but often it looks like a den of trolls and you dont know who is trolling who
I am waiting but it doesnt mean i cant write a few posts about stuff i dont like
And what I am waiting the most are mods, because its mean devs can work on physics and i can race new tracks,
Everyone is content
Thats a nice protective umbrella we have here, lets say its in alpha so no one can compare it to anything else or criticize.
If you insist
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Why cant I?
You are not very fast are you?
Why dont you read it again.
Protip being a sim have nothing to do with number of cars etc, and general consensus was "if LFS is a sim then even rolllcage can be a sim.
I even gave you the arguments why LFS is not really a sim at least not bigger than GT, DIRT or WRC championship.
Accidentally quoted wrong, happens, get over it
I prefer driving offline what wrong with that, do you want to tell me how am I suppose to enjoy my game?
Multiplayer its not the only mode in lfs.
Why so geriatric?
Not old enough to click on my profile and check my age?
Not sure what you said there but after waiting 5 years of this "Damn overused stuff" i guess its hard to take a word of criticism...
All you know for sure is that S3 will have Rockingham and scirocco, of course all you can have is a feeling...
Bye Watson of the ... erm nvm just Watson
Accuse him of causing accident.
Start voting immediately after crash, make sure you are first to start voting.
After you vote start insulting him.
Dont do this ^
It happens all the time especially on demo servers.
If he bans you, if he insulted you or crashed you intentionally, you should go to forum of a server and make complain, show them replay and make sure to save it because after you exit LFS you cant save replay of a last race.
Start voting immediately after crash, make sure you are first to start voting.
After you vote start insulting him.
Dont do this ^
It happens all the time especially on demo servers.
If he bans you, if he insulted you or crashed you intentionally, you should go to forum of a server and make complain, show them replay and make sure to save it because after you exit LFS you cant save replay of a last race.
No its your mistake assuming i cant.
I am only a customer an end user i dont care about number of people doing games, their budget, time they had etc all I care is final product, nothing else matters for me.
Sim an overused word, lets look at it, Simulator nomen omen simulates something, so what does LFS simulate?
A flexible tyre, work of suspension it doesnt really simulate anything that exist in real life because it simulates components of a car but not a particular car, yes cars in LFS are based on existed cars but even so cars in LFS doesnt act as a real live cars.
An aliens is a good example no real car could drive with those setups not to mention wining races.
And in LFS those unrealistic settings give you the best result so even if LFS simulates something you can clearly see it not really realistic, i can take rollcage and say its a sim because its simulates something that is no existent.
Cars in LFS are like an object with suspension, engine, tyres, cage, frame, etc and its behaves more or less like such an object would but its not really an existent car, neither its behave like real car with the same characteristics should.
It is you who think you understand LFS but you dont.
Oh luk at me I am so hardkorez racer i could play LFS in excel...
Saying stuff like you dont have time to look at scenery its an overused excuse and even kid can see how retarded that is.
Unless you really want to say that while driving you see only asphalt.
Did it ever flew trough you scull that there are people who are more observant than you are, who pay more attention to details, who are more demanding and there is no reason why your preferences in games are better than mine, or why should LFS be developed to suit your taste and not mine.
You are not the bellybutton of the universe get used to it.
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