Probably due to the transmission use. I noticed the same thing in the GT-R, it will crawl with no throttle

Quote from sinbad :

I noticed that, but it still doesn't explain the apparently limitless traction at the hairpins of Monaco and frankly ridiculous looking corner speeds in the replays. F1 cars are supposed to look a bit clumsy at very low speeds because the aero has little or no effect.

This has only confirmed my decision to use Sports Softs as my racing-soft tyre. If it can get a 60s RM Camaro round the Nordschleife in well under 7 minutes, it has enough grip.

Racing hards are fine IMO, Racing soft yeah too grippy. I think PD added em in for the casuals. In all the GT Academy trials, only hard racing tyres are used.

On Indy road course you can loose it quite easily on the sharp turns there with hard racing tyres.


Chrisuu01 - I'm not much of a setup expert
Do you have the GT1 shared? I don't have one.
Maybe increasing the ride height and soften it up a bit

Quote from sinbad :

Cheers for the loaners Col, had some laps at Monza and Monaco in the F2010. Couldn't bring myself to use Racing tyres for long, though, they're ridiculously grippy and make low speed corners at monaco look as though someone has pressed fast forward.

Couldn't buy tyres for the cars, so had to use Racing Wets at a dry Le Mans in the old-timer Ferrari whose name escapes me. I was actually quite impressed by how they felt, I expected them to be far to grippy but they were pretty good and offered believable levels of grip for that car.

I had downforce set to max on the F1 cars

Sorry I should have loaded up on tyres for all of em!
I'll do that now, as I need to spend some money so my cash laden B-Spec drivers from remote races can empty their pockets

Probably the hang is due to your net connection or the GT servers,
GT5 tries to connect for the news

You missed out, all those special events around Christmas could get you to level 28 very quickly

Quote from Madman_CZ :

I second that, often I find myself thinking, what on earth are those people talking about afraid of being made a noob for not knowing and asking ....

Edit:

Have a technical question, has your GT5 ever hang going from the GT5 main screen to GT MODE? Mine just hangs with the GT5 loading screen and I cannot get to the GT MODE section?

Can't say that has happened with me even once. Check your harddrive maybe time for a new one

Quote from sinbad :

Would someone set their F2010 to "online" please? Would quite like to try one, and I think that's how it works. Not tried a single seater yet, and I have very few credits at the moment (was hoping for some big-buck seasonal events )

Done

Also F1 2007 and other expensive race cars is shared as well

Last edited by CoolColJ, Sun 20 Feb 2011, 13:55.

It's begun
Talk about peripheral vision!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_A69Ix96JE

Quote from Andrew McP :

・Multi Monitor
From [Options] - [Hardware] - [Multi Monitor], you can now set multi-monitor display settings using multiple PS3™ systems.
You can now enjoy Gran Turismo 5 in an incredibly wide display environment combining multiple PS3™ systems and TV's/monitors.
For details please see the support section on gran-turismo.com.

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! Since I got badly bitten by the GT5 Nordschleife bug I've been saying the only thing I miss from my PC simming is three screens.

Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I can feel the urge to find a couple of cheap reconditioned PS3s beginning to itch at the back of my brain.

Mmm... of course you'd probably need 3 copies of GT5 too.

Must ignore this news. I really, really must. :->

Andrew McP

There you go

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Quote from TGR_Kefran :

Finally GT5 goes multi-screen;
I confirm it works in all game modes including online :bowdown:

I don't have the space but it's something to look out for in the future with cheap 2nd hand GT5 and PS3
You can use either 3 or 5 screens

GT5, a few PSN like Super StarDust HD and defense games like Savage Moon and Comet crash plus all their DLC

Those are the ones I've spent all my time on

Custom tracks for online is good, with time of day change and weather to boot. But the Efiel theme keeps spitting out blind downhill corners, not so good
It's like a Laguna Seca corkscrew and Bathurst downhill section on every track

The banking setting addtion is nice, makes the tracks more organic now

If only we had control of the topography, generate our own custom ones, then it would be way better

I tested one of my old online replays, and yes you can switch between cars instantly now, and change views, from any car! But no cockpit view for the other cars

Cizeta V16T test drive, stock, sports hards, no aids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S5EywCawoI

Definitely one of the hardest cars to drive on hard sports tyres in GT5! The engine has a lot of torque and will send you off track in a hurry
If you think the Mclaren F1 is tricky, try this one out!

Looks pretty good for a standard car.

I thought it used the same sounds as the Mclaren F1 in GT5, but the real thing sounds quite similar in the upper revs, but low revs are pretty bad in GT5 though. Low revs should sound like 2 American style V8s stuck together.
All they did in GT5 was pitch shift it down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5NgGQr2u4I

Last edited by CoolColJ, Sat 15 Jan 2011, 22:41.

Quote from speed1230 :

Here's a pic of my 458:
http://img222.imageshack.us/im ... 1/9xreeggp8aaoifuuxy0.jpg
Edit: Ouch, quality has been hurt a lot since I simply got it from My Home on the GT website

Get a flash drive and transfer the original to your PC

Well I don't even use the cockpit view so it's moot point for me, but that's why Kaz added it in, to impart the feelings he had while racing. I guess that's why Shift also does it, because the dev is also a real life racer.

Quote from Matrixi :

Sorry, but that is just.. no. :nol2:

Your vision doesn't get blurred of shaking at 100 km/h in a stock road car. The effect in GT5 is just plain ridiculous, I don't find the cockpit shake to help me in any way at all. Better tire noises and force feedback are for that purpose.

Well it tells you your driving on a bumpy road

If your wheel is shaking, and the tyres and squealing yet the cockpit is rock solid, I dunno, that too me feels really odd...

RFactor and The GTR series have even more weird looking cockpit wobble, like your on a jello ball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIc-EGxMDTo

Last edited by CoolColJ, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 22:32.

Quote from Matrixi :

This. I keep trying to use the incar camera but the shake just drives me mad. The bumper view shakes a bit too, but not nearly as much as the incar view. The original unpatched Prologue didn't have any shaking, but after some patch, they added it and seems like it has sneaked in to GT5 too. It just renders the beautiful cockpits pretty much useless, well done PD.

See 11:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g85795KdjQo

Kaz is just trying to replicate his experiences racing at the 24 hour Nurburgring, you get shaken to bits in a race car.

I found Prologue sterile as hell, due to the too stable cockpits. There are a lot of things we don't feel in a game, so the visual imformation helps

Quote from sinbad :

Pfft, not worth the Co2

I'm becoming more and more put off online at the moment. I just can't find rooms worth connecting to.

If you're not in to Racing Soft Tyres and 750bhp race cars, or Nascar, or Drifting, then you'll be lucky to find a race. I keep having to host with spec "recommended" cars, but a fair chunk of the small number of people ask you to allow other cars/other tyres/etc (why join), and lots more just want to drift whichever rwd car you were foolish enough to choose. I think when they see "comfort" they read "drift".

For Super GT racing, check here - gives out a room number whenever a host is up
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=154869

Or just keep an eye here
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=238

I usually seek out and join Japanese rooms. They usually have good combos going, and most can drive properly
My last few online races against them - admittedly they were on soft racing tyres
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB6BU1-WUus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSfURgejQgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x55_uzVKd84

Or do Karts - lots of fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5u2OEO39mQ
Especially on London

I haven't been online in a while though.

Once PD sponsored events finally come up, like in Prologue, that will make things better.
And bringing back the PP system will help - this way you can have lighter less powerful cars going against heavier, more powerful cars, which can make for some interesting matchups

Last edited by CoolColJ, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:12.

Quote from logitekg25 :

ok every time i race my b spec driver, it is easy for almost every lap, until the end. it always ends up a photo finish

whats the best method with b-spec?

jamming the button on overtake every 10 seconds? overtaking til in first, then going faster til im on my limit? drive just a little ahead to maintain ability to drive good?

Depends on the track, car and skills of the driver, but -
heat up on the straights and over take, cool down on the tricky bits to keep the car under control. Keep him udner 3/4 of the heat bar to save the tyres. Pressure the guy in front, so he heats up and chews his tyres. Then when his low on tyres, and physical, overtake for the win

The other cars will speed up and slow down as well. I like to overtake and get into first place ASAP if possible, and then try and build up a big as lead as possible, and then cruise to keep mistakes low

Quote from Matrixi :

I want to painfully murder my granny driving brake obsessed b-spec Bob. He's so utterly useless at ovals even if I give him a way better car than the opposition has, he's still braking in every "corner" at level 23.

You have a bad driver, I had a level 12 driver dominate all the Nascar events. He pulled a big lead on the ovals, and so the other cars couldn't draft him

They're all different, try another one. A high aggression, accuracy and corner rating helps


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T500RS GT5 rally video, seems responsive on the countersteer stuff. When I do that on a DFGT, I tend to over correct and fishtail out, wheel is too slow! From CES I think. Fry in the US are selling them already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUMAbsNZB4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ1PxATC_4g

Drifting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igN3gbmoz24

Quote :

play with a Beamer and with Stereosound over amplifyer and speakers.
Difficult to say. they both make a sound. I would say the G27 is harder in sound because of the gears, and the t500rs is more damped because of the belts. The t500 has a fan, too. You can hear this, but for me it is no problem.
Anyway, the T500rs has no play! The g27 has little play, like "tic tic tic" when you stear left right left.

The powersupply is double size of that g27 and the motor is getting warm after 10-20 min. ( I play with strong feedback )
It seems that the wheel is adjusting for every different car. There are big differences if you drive an elise or an charger, in force and sensitivity.
Actualy the plastic wheel is in the grip almost like leather. ( it smells even like leather )
Seems to be very special material, feels like original car wheel. No problems with this.
I payed les than 500 € for it. ( will not give it away anymore )


Regards,

Laserpat

PS: I like the pedals too. I installed the extra mod on it. aprox 14Kg to push. I like the pedals ( Brake ). Sensitive and strong built quality. I play the F1 style, because I can not see any advantages to put the heavy side vertical.
There are also more screwholes in the F1 mode. The cable is a little short! You will need extension cable, if you are not sitting 80cm berfore your screen.

I have one concern with the wheel! When you crash in a race, and you are not patiently enought to to put the wheels staright, and you abort the race with "st" button, than the wheel is rotating very very fast in Zero position!! This can break a finger or a hand of a child! be carefull!

Last edited by CoolColJ, Fri 7 Jan 2011, 23:08.

Quote from mr_x :

I'd rather get a Fanatec wheel for that price! :o

Except the Fanatecs don't feel like Frex/ECCI, and aren't officially supported by GT5

It'll be about $799 retail in Austraila or so they say on the Face book page

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/tra ... rungsbericht&lp=de_en

Quote from Gigantoad :

Well let me translate that a little better. Here's a rough outline:

Comparing T500 and G25 side by side reveals that the G25 now looks like a toy, both in terms of wheel and pedals.

The guy has tested G25 and Fanatec wheels, then went back to G25 which he preferred.

Button on T500 are all "micro switches" that allow for very nice and precise clicking. No jerkiness or such.

Shifter paddles needs getting used to since they don't move with the wheel. Compared to the G25 they feel massive and robust, clean precise shifting. Compared to this the shifting on the G25 feels wobbly and has no real pressure point.

About the FFB. Incredible. With the G25 you feel when you drive over a curb that the wheel tries to go into some random direction. The T500, on the other hand, just does it and in an extreme way. Great feeling.

When the car stands still, the T500 is confortably soft, but when the car exceeds 20km/h the resistance increases dramatically and you have to really hold on to it to turn. If the car starts drifiting at high speed this is unmistakenly felt by the driver. Trying to hold the wheel with one hand is futile, grab it or let go, otherwise it'll hurt (lol).

Pedals work clean, soft, precise without any sounds of drag/grind. The G25 seem to grind more, have some clearance and aren't as precise.

Connectors are on the back left and you don't need to detach the whole wheel to disconnect stuff.

Then he goes on how he was convinced about the G25 but he now prefers the T500 by a long shot and yadada. He mentions he played sims for 15 years. He's very happy.

One negative is when the fan starts up it is louder than the PS3 (not sure if he means just the startup or in general). But the T500 itself is quieter than the G25.

Then he adds, concerning precision, that drifting is child's play, you are flooded with with responses from the wheel, incredible.

Last edited by CoolColJ, Fri 7 Jan 2011, 18:25.

Quote from LSDBlackWolf :

Formula GT races almost fried my G27, specially at Monaco...
is there a way to effectively lower FFB for other wheels rather than the "GT" ones in this game? I set FFB to 1 and it's still hard as hell! ffs, i could almost fry an egg with my wheel lol, and i swear i felt some burning smell coming out of it...had to switch to gamepad for a while before it got on fire! im laughing now but i didn't back then...

i wish logitech would have a built in system like the fanatec one where u can manually set the ffb...

Another -1 point...that bloody car is not sellable...its hard to get 15M

The G27 is nerfed right now, not much you can do to adjust it.


Impressions from Darin on the Thrustmaster T500RS, which is not nerfed

Quote :

On the pedal side, I like the Clubsports better. The wheel.. Is pretty incredible and like I said, drives like an ECCI or Frex wheel. I need more time with it and want to test it on the PC and with other games to give a full assessment.. Although it continues to blow me away every time I drive it.. It honestly shows how good the physics and FFB in GT5 is. I forget Im driving on the console and rally is amazing with this wheel!

Until there is a save allowed after each race I'm not going to even bother....
B-Spec handled it for me nicely

Soft tyres did the trick, as they didn't wear down as fast as they should, while the AI runs on Hard racing tyres, and never switches to rain tyres starting a race if it's raining.... or vice versa, if it's rained the race before, they start on rain tyres, even if it's dry....

PD x Facepalm

Just cracked 10 million credits after doing the the last B-spec championship a few times. 1 Million each time through and easy when you driver is in a Formula PD car....

Think I might try that Ferrari F1 2010

Wheel impressions

Quote :

Just one or two very firsts impressions because it's late here in france and i must go to work in 5 hours...

the pedals looks robusts and well designed. heavy, full metal.

As i said before, can't compare to another excepts the G25's.

the brake's mod is for me really an improvment (i remind you i had a stock
g25 before) at least in terms of feeling.

there is a lot of possibilitys of adjustements on the pedals. so i have set the break pedal to the left, as far as possible from the gaz pedal, in order to have a comfortable left foot brake.
good results for me. even with the central bar of the playseat.

the clutch don't work actually.

To devander, i will try tomorow the brake without the mod and will say to you
my feeling.

the wheel is another world compare to the g25, as expected.
very very strong.
for example, when you spin, it's sometimes (depends of the car) almost impossible to retain the wheel (gt5 ffb set on 10, haven't yet try another value). impressive, but for me a detail.

the most important is that it is very smooth, sensitive.
the strengh of the wheel serves the acurancy and the velocity of the informations that the game (the virtual car) send to you, and that's precisely what i was expecting to.

imo, a great leap forward.
can't wait to try this on Iracing... hope the support will be good.

the rim has no leather... a litlle bit disapointing for me.
good grip and pleasant contact despite all.

there is a fan in the wheel, a bit noisy.

nothing special about the paddles, well designed and sharp contacts.

very good thing the paddles do not turn with the wheel imo.

but it will take a litlle practice not to search them around the wheel after 3 years with a g25.

and that's true with the overall feeling, probably due to the FFB, very different, and the diameter of the wheel.

last remark, at this time, i'm not faster with this wheel.
question of time, i hope .

very happy with this product after aprox. 6 hours of test with differents cars.

Quote from morpha :

Is there some sort of permanent engine degradation? My 787B Stealth used to produce 927 bhp fully built, now it won't do better than 924. Could be mileage related, it's got almost 20.000km on the clock

Have you rebuilt and reoiled? I read that there is some mileage loss over time.

Stealth cars are easy to regain anyway, delete it and redownload from PSN, but you lose all your upgrades.


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Someone on GTPlanet already has that Thrustmaster GT wheel

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57928602@N06/5327543141/