THX mate, the relations we have in the cooperation have nothing to do with team work, we are like a family with 3 principles, Friendly, Fair and Fun.
it is online, try ﾉﾏedline LXperience
Hehe sounds more like it! some sweet combo's in there!
I think you forgot to mention how long will the rotations be?
Good luck guys!
I think you forgot to mention how long will the rotations be?
Good luck guys!
Been having lots of problems with spam bots, so you have probably missed the question asking what is the real name of WE1? the answer is ''Westhill international''...hope this help!
Here we go: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=67680
Sign up for Sim Club: http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... wtopic.php?f=67&t=674
Sign up for Sim Club: http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... wtopic.php?f=67&t=674
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Dailycious Series Part3! (no registration!)
Dailycious Series Part3!
After a great racing year in 2009 we had a well deserved winter break (nothing worse than tired admins to manage a server), during that time we’ve seen LFS take the arcade road, the much awaited patch is creating a strange ambiance which is making the community lose its sim racers. So before everyone leaves we are going to try to make a small contribution to sim racing, so the idea is to restart dailycious for 10 weeks before the summer. This time it will be a little different, we have spent the winter creating a close cooperation between Ready2Roll & AirAttack & Rasta4Racing & Eteam (more on this later…), so 4 servers will run daylicious, & AA demo Racing, & R4R TBO/GTI, & R2R GEN Racing and a 4th server which we will call & R2R GEN PRO for now. The idea here is to have one team dedicated to each server running dailycious. The series will be open for everyone as always, the racing will be organized with sim racing spirit and with different levels of difficulty, races will have different length and many cars will be used… We will use the safety handicap (GTi/TBO, GEN) for driver under the 70% (!safe), meaning that 5kg extra mass will added for each 5% under the 70% to unsafe drivers, new drivers on our servers will be attributed a safety index of 70% when they join the first time, so it will be up to them to maintain it to avoid handicap. All servers stats will be reset, everyone will have equal chances at the start and you will be able to drive all cars with no licenses restrictions to drive them…
The & R2R GEN PRO server will be a bit different, we have been talking to many racers like us about using realistic settings and respecting wheel turn, inside view, H-shifter and manual clutch. But many say that they don’t use those settings because almost no one use them and it would mean being slower and that is not acceptable for most of us, so we want to start an experiment and use this server to do that. It means that the server will be restricted for those settings, interested racers will have to register and agree to a short contract to enter our Sim Club, only then they will be able to race on this server, others will be allowed to spectate. The server will have its own stats to allow us to compare them with others who use the same settings… Note that this server will be closely watched and replays will be saved, so in case of cheating, exclusion from this server will be definitive, no second chances or appeal will be possible. So if you think you are hardcore enough and want to try something different, follow this link (first week will stay public to give time to everyone to try it): http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... wtopic.php?f=67&t=674
Servers descriptions:
& AA Demo Racing: Managed by Air Attack team. Here we want to enter the demo scene and offer its racers some more serious racing on weekly basis. It will run the 3 allowed cars on BL1 and BL1R with 2 Dailycious races of 20min + 1lap every Monday's with reversed grid for the second. The last week of dailycious all 3 cars will be used, one per race. Events will be every Sunday's and a minimum of coper license will be necessary to enter the race.
Sunday's
Qualifications: 18:30 UTC (25min)
Race1: 19 :00 UTC (20min+1lap)
Race2: 19:30 UTC (20min+1lap)
& R2R GEN Racing: Managed by Ready2Roll team. Here we will run 5 categories of cars GTL/GT2/GT1/FBM/FOX, Each category will run twice during the 10 weeks. One category per week and 1 tracks per week and we’ll have 2x20min + 1lap (No pit and with reverse grid for the second race) dailycious race every Monday's.
Monday's
Qualifications: 18 :30 UTC (25min)
Race1: 19 :00 UTC (20min+1lap)
Race2: 19:30 UTC (20min+1lap)
& R2R GEN PRO (Sim Club): Managed by the cooperation. So here we want to start a little experiment to see if we could get a group to like some more realistic ways of racing, by that we mean H-shifter, Manual clutch, original wheel turn and inside view. I know some will say that not everyone has a G25 and this was true a 2 or 3 years ago, but by now most ppls have one or similar. The server will be able to control things like the H-shifter, Manual clutch and inside view. Here we will use 10 of the 12 cars with H shifter, UF1, XFG, XRG, LX4, RB4, FXO, XRT, FZ5, UFR, FZR, with one car and one track per week. The server will be ''private'', but it will remain open for everyone to try during the first week of training (with easy UF1), we’ll do 8 laps sprint races with pit during the week and 40min + 1lap + pit Dailycious race every Wednesday's… Here there will be no safety handicap or minimum license to enter the events because registered racers will be considered as respectable sim racers…
Wednesday's
Qualifications: 18:30 UTC (25min)
Race: 19 :00 UTC (40min+1lap+pit)
& R4R GTI/TBO: Managed by Rasta4Racing. Like we’ve seen in many occasion TBO has ups and downs, so we will add the XFG and XRG which will give them 5 cars, Each car will run twice during the 10 weeks series. Here we will use only one car at the time and one track per week ending with 40min + 1lap + pit Dailycious race every Thursday's.
Thursday's
Qualifications: 18:30 UTC (25min)
Race: 19 :00 UTC (40min+1lap+pit)
All races are automatically managed by Airio, so schedule will be respected and you will be able to join the second multi race events if you missed the first.
We are a big organisation and many of us will be racing most events, we hope you'll join the fun!
Program:http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... .php?id=777&mode=view
Official topic: http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... mp;t=675&p=4952#p4952
SPDO event database: http://www.spdoracing.com/eventdb/competition/476
Have fun Racers!
After a great racing year in 2009 we had a well deserved winter break (nothing worse than tired admins to manage a server), during that time we’ve seen LFS take the arcade road, the much awaited patch is creating a strange ambiance which is making the community lose its sim racers. So before everyone leaves we are going to try to make a small contribution to sim racing, so the idea is to restart dailycious for 10 weeks before the summer. This time it will be a little different, we have spent the winter creating a close cooperation between Ready2Roll & AirAttack & Rasta4Racing & Eteam (more on this later…), so 4 servers will run daylicious, & AA demo Racing, & R4R TBO/GTI, & R2R GEN Racing and a 4th server which we will call & R2R GEN PRO for now. The idea here is to have one team dedicated to each server running dailycious. The series will be open for everyone as always, the racing will be organized with sim racing spirit and with different levels of difficulty, races will have different length and many cars will be used… We will use the safety handicap (GTi/TBO, GEN) for driver under the 70% (!safe), meaning that 5kg extra mass will added for each 5% under the 70% to unsafe drivers, new drivers on our servers will be attributed a safety index of 70% when they join the first time, so it will be up to them to maintain it to avoid handicap. All servers stats will be reset, everyone will have equal chances at the start and you will be able to drive all cars with no licenses restrictions to drive them…
The & R2R GEN PRO server will be a bit different, we have been talking to many racers like us about using realistic settings and respecting wheel turn, inside view, H-shifter and manual clutch. But many say that they don’t use those settings because almost no one use them and it would mean being slower and that is not acceptable for most of us, so we want to start an experiment and use this server to do that. It means that the server will be restricted for those settings, interested racers will have to register and agree to a short contract to enter our Sim Club, only then they will be able to race on this server, others will be allowed to spectate. The server will have its own stats to allow us to compare them with others who use the same settings… Note that this server will be closely watched and replays will be saved, so in case of cheating, exclusion from this server will be definitive, no second chances or appeal will be possible. So if you think you are hardcore enough and want to try something different, follow this link (first week will stay public to give time to everyone to try it): http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... wtopic.php?f=67&t=674
Servers descriptions:
& AA Demo Racing: Managed by Air Attack team. Here we want to enter the demo scene and offer its racers some more serious racing on weekly basis. It will run the 3 allowed cars on BL1 and BL1R with 2 Dailycious races of 20min + 1lap every Monday's with reversed grid for the second. The last week of dailycious all 3 cars will be used, one per race. Events will be every Sunday's and a minimum of coper license will be necessary to enter the race.
Sunday's
Qualifications: 18:30 UTC (25min)
Race1: 19 :00 UTC (20min+1lap)
Race2: 19:30 UTC (20min+1lap)
& R2R GEN Racing: Managed by Ready2Roll team. Here we will run 5 categories of cars GTL/GT2/GT1/FBM/FOX, Each category will run twice during the 10 weeks. One category per week and 1 tracks per week and we’ll have 2x20min + 1lap (No pit and with reverse grid for the second race) dailycious race every Monday's.
Monday's
Qualifications: 18 :30 UTC (25min)
Race1: 19 :00 UTC (20min+1lap)
Race2: 19:30 UTC (20min+1lap)
& R2R GEN PRO (Sim Club): Managed by the cooperation. So here we want to start a little experiment to see if we could get a group to like some more realistic ways of racing, by that we mean H-shifter, Manual clutch, original wheel turn and inside view. I know some will say that not everyone has a G25 and this was true a 2 or 3 years ago, but by now most ppls have one or similar. The server will be able to control things like the H-shifter, Manual clutch and inside view. Here we will use 10 of the 12 cars with H shifter, UF1, XFG, XRG, LX4, RB4, FXO, XRT, FZ5, UFR, FZR, with one car and one track per week. The server will be ''private'', but it will remain open for everyone to try during the first week of training (with easy UF1), we’ll do 8 laps sprint races with pit during the week and 40min + 1lap + pit Dailycious race every Wednesday's… Here there will be no safety handicap or minimum license to enter the events because registered racers will be considered as respectable sim racers…
Wednesday's
Qualifications: 18:30 UTC (25min)
Race: 19 :00 UTC (40min+1lap+pit)
& R4R GTI/TBO: Managed by Rasta4Racing. Like we’ve seen in many occasion TBO has ups and downs, so we will add the XFG and XRG which will give them 5 cars, Each car will run twice during the 10 weeks series. Here we will use only one car at the time and one track per week ending with 40min + 1lap + pit Dailycious race every Thursday's.
Thursday's
Qualifications: 18:30 UTC (25min)
Race: 19 :00 UTC (40min+1lap+pit)
All races are automatically managed by Airio, so schedule will be respected and you will be able to join the second multi race events if you missed the first.
We are a big organisation and many of us will be racing most events, we hope you'll join the fun!
Program:http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... .php?id=777&mode=view
Official topic: http://www.ready2rollteam.com/ ... mp;t=675&p=4952#p4952
SPDO event database: http://www.spdoracing.com/eventdb/competition/476
Have fun Racers!
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Little note: for the preparation of the series, I have renamed the server to ''& R2R GEN PRO'', I'll explain later today why and what will happen...to be continued...
All public for now (24/7), but registration to the sim club will be necessary when the series start ( soon), meaning only the club member will be able to race there.
No worry it is here to stay!
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Loud and clear mate, it is controller ability vs linearity, long debate hehe...
I guess that's why logitech made the centring spring...
What I like so much from using those settings is that it reintroduce the human factor even for the best of us, everyone will miss a gear once in while, down shifting while braking has to be very precise and passing a car under braking has to be done so carefully, no dive bomb possible or you'll end up in an uncontrolled mess...even on the strait you notice that no one shift exactly the same which result in small difference in speed...
On a personal note, I suck terribly with H shifter and lost 2 sec everywhere, I guess it will take me months to get up to sequential level (if ever), but I love every minutes driving like this...
It is not do what you like, it is like what you do...small difference but it means the world to me!
THX for the great comments! it is music to our hears!
Yes you're right I think, reduce the original wheel turn by half and you double the speed of your reflexes...
No insim info is reported by lfs about the wheel, that said if you watch someone driving you can see if he uses small wheel turn...
It is a long time I want to do something like this, but because we couldn't restrict the servers I've waited, but now I feel we can do enough to make it interesting and if someone is stupid enough to chose our GEN PRO server to use the only arcade setting we can't control...so be it... nothing more to say than ''sad for him''...
THX for the your enthusiastic answers guys!
@mc: like I said, even if we manage to control the wheel turn with a filter based on insim info, ppls will still have the possibility to set the game at says 720 (the info which will be reported) and set the driver setting in windows to 320 or 360...so sadly not much we can do there.
That said, taking corners with one hand with a small wheel turn is a lot harder than with two hands...
@mc: like I said, even if we manage to control the wheel turn with a filter based on insim info, ppls will still have the possibility to set the game at says 720 (the info which will be reported) and set the driver setting in windows to 320 or 360...so sadly not much we can do there.
That said, taking corners with one hand with a small wheel turn is a lot harder than with two hands
...Ready2Roll GEN PRO?
Update: Due to some confusion about the server settings, the server has been renamed to & R2R GEN H BOX
Little post to tell you that we are testing a new server dedicated to the H shifting cars, the server will be restricted to Manual axe clutch, H shifter and incar view and no button clutch, no shift macro and no auto gears will be possible… because not everyone has a G25 or similar those servers never have much success, but we think times have changed and many of us have one of those wheels by now, and there is no reason why sim racers shouldn’t have a place dedicated and restricted to those settings. Most importantly, you will be able to race and compare yourself to other racers with equal tools…
Only one thing, and I hope dev read this, the wheel turn can’t be restricted, it would be great if lfs could report some info on this (insim info)… and even then it would never be reliable because ppls would always have the driver settings to play with… We hope sim lover will have the fair play to respect this part of the settings, we can’t control or restrict it.
We are planning to build a ‘’sim club’’ around this server with a little series, so registration will be necessary, but in the mid time the server is public for everyone to play with…So I thought lets warn everyone J. At the moment we are trying the 12 cars (H shifter) we have, so expect combo’s to change often in the coming days.
THX to EQ Worry and Airio for giving us the tools to do this!
PS: To all racers without that kind of wheels, I know this is not friendly to you guys, but understand there are no reason for us to be punished, braking with H shifter in a pack of sequential is just mad… and believe me I am racing on lfs for a while and since two weeks that I have changed settings, I have the feeling I am rediscovering it all over again, this will get me by before S3 arrives and Hope others will share that with me!
More soon….Have fun!
Edit: The server has been renamed to ''& R2R GEN PRO''
Little post to tell you that we are testing a new server dedicated to the H shifting cars, the server will be restricted to Manual axe clutch, H shifter and incar view and no button clutch, no shift macro and no auto gears will be possible… because not everyone has a G25 or similar those servers never have much success, but we think times have changed and many of us have one of those wheels by now, and there is no reason why sim racers shouldn’t have a place dedicated and restricted to those settings. Most importantly, you will be able to race and compare yourself to other racers with equal tools…
Only one thing, and I hope dev read this
, the wheel turn can’t be restricted, it would be great if lfs could report some info on this (insim info)… and even then it would never be reliable because ppls would always have the driver settings to play with… We hope sim lover will have the fair play to respect this part of the settings, we can’t control or restrict it.We are planning to build a ‘’sim club’’ around this server with a little series, so registration will be necessary, but in the mid time the server is public for everyone to play with…So I thought lets warn everyone J. At the moment we are trying the 12 cars (H shifter) we have, so expect combo’s to change often in the coming days.
THX to EQ Worry and Airio for giving us the tools to do this!
PS: To all racers without that kind of wheels, I know this is not friendly to you guys, but understand there are no reason for us to be punished, braking with H shifter in a pack of sequential is just mad… and believe me I am racing on lfs for a while and since two weeks that I have changed settings, I have the feeling I am rediscovering it all over again, this will get me by before S3 arrives and Hope others will share that with me!
More soon….Have fun!
Edit: The server has been renamed to ''& R2R GEN PRO''
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Reason : added new server name!
Just download the realtek HD driver: http://www.realtek.com.tw/down ... ypeID=3&GetDown=false
Ho and make sure sound is enabled in the bios....
Ho and make sure sound is enabled in the bios....
Don't tell my wife, looks like I wasted some money again!
BTW the problem with the shifter seems to replicate by others too, was with a friend who owns one too last night and when i asked him to to activate the shifter, he did from it from options and it was not working, he had to do a succession of shift+G go spec then back in pit before he could join with a working shifter in the car, maybe you could test it to see if you get the same result? (something's fishy, but I don't think this is logitech's problem)
BTW the problem with the shifter seems to replicate by others too, was with a friend who owns one too last night and when i asked him to to activate the shifter, he did from it from options and it was not working, he had to do a succession of shift+G go spec then back in pit before he could join with a working shifter in the car, maybe you could test it to see if you get the same result? (something's fishy, but I don't think this is logitech's problem)
THX mate, this makes sense, it also confirmed my test, tho I am not so sure about linearity (more testing to do), it sounds like bad driver to me, bit like we had when the G25 came out...
THX for sharing Bose, I have 2 G25 in working order, one must have more than 400.000kms and still going strong, I never had that much problems controlling the car with it...so I guess I'll always have the option to go back to it
...I'll wait a driver update and I'll use 105% for the time being, but if the noise increase I will RMA it anyway...
G27 - Weak FFB in the middle!
I'd like to ask a question to G27 users, I have bought one 4 weeks ago and I am having some troubles with it, checked the logitech and LFS forums, but I couldn't get a description of what I am experiencing.
First, FFB settings in driver are 100/0/0, no centring spring, I use win7 64bits, I respect wheel turn for each cars in LFS with FFB between 20 and 40 depending on the car. PC's is my business, so OS and drivers are properly installed and optimized. I have tested it with and without profiler (which I normally don't use)...
I have a very weak (almost non-existent) FFB in the middle of the wheel, about 5cm long, it is making two kinds of noises, a peep like a bird signing in the background when moving slowly in that zone (like when you are on the strait and doing small changes of direction), and does clac clac (knocking noise) every time i switch (fast) from left to right.
Ok noise is bad, specially when you invest for that reason, but I could live with it, the problem is that this weak FFB in the middle is becoming a real problem when you have to control the car with fast wheel motions, the steps between strong/weak/strong prevent me from being consistent and often ends up is a spin....I am not talking about a dead zone, there is no dead zone on it, it is just that the FFB don't seems to take effect on that +/- 5cm zone in the middle....
I have tried many settings to try to reduce this, two things seems to work moderately, 1) setting FFB in driver to 105/0/0 which ends up being non linear and 2) use a bit of centring spring which I hate with passion...
Now I was wondering if some of you are experimenting the same thing before I decide to RMA it. I gave it more than 4 weeks time to get use to it and in most cars I am 1,5 sec slower, I am already getting older I can't loose more speed due to the wheel...
I am also having an other strange problem, but I think it is more LFS related, I am loosing the shifter (in car) if I by mistake or not hit the shift+G keys (auto/sequential/shifter) and set it back to shifter, it keeps working in option/controller but not in the car any more, it seems stuck on the sequential. I can manage to regain it with pressing shift+G couples of times and go to pit and spec in a random way... I have to take he time to test this on a fresh LFS install to see if I can reproduce it...
thx for sharing!
First, FFB settings in driver are 100/0/0, no centring spring, I use win7 64bits, I respect wheel turn for each cars in LFS with FFB between 20 and 40 depending on the car. PC's is my business, so OS and drivers are properly installed and optimized. I have tested it with and without profiler (which I normally don't use)...
I have a very weak (almost non-existent) FFB in the middle of the wheel, about 5cm long, it is making two kinds of noises, a peep like a bird signing in the background when moving slowly in that zone (like when you are on the strait and doing small changes of direction), and does clac clac (knocking noise) every time i switch (fast) from left to right.
Ok noise is bad, specially when you invest for that reason, but I could live with it, the problem is that this weak FFB in the middle is becoming a real problem when you have to control the car with fast wheel motions, the steps between strong/weak/strong prevent me from being consistent and often ends up is a spin....I am not talking about a dead zone, there is no dead zone on it, it is just that the FFB don't seems to take effect on that +/- 5cm zone in the middle....
I have tried many settings to try to reduce this, two things seems to work moderately, 1) setting FFB in driver to 105/0/0 which ends up being non linear and 2) use a bit of centring spring which I hate with passion...
Now I was wondering if some of you are experimenting the same thing before I decide to RMA it. I gave it more than 4 weeks time to get use to it and in most cars I am 1,5 sec slower, I am already getting older I can't loose more speed due to the wheel...
I am also having an other strange problem, but I think it is more LFS related, I am loosing the shifter (in car) if I by mistake or not hit the shift+G keys (auto/sequential/shifter) and set it back to shifter, it keeps working in option/controller but not in the car any more, it seems stuck on the sequential. I can manage to regain it with pressing shift+G couples of times and go to pit and spec in a random way... I have to take he time to test this on a fresh LFS install to see if I can reproduce it...
thx for sharing!
Well I don't think it makes much of a difference is you drive only in cities, but for me who drives (cruise) long distances it does!
Yeah sorry I got confused with expended desktop and span mode, The difference is that two spanned half-monitors are treated as one physical monitor which allows full screen for games on video...That said I use expended desktop with lfs in windowed mode and it seems to work quite ok for lfs since multimonitor support...
Since I always tank full and I drive 25.000 to 30.000kms a year I use other means to save some fuel, like having my tires a bit harder dan normal to reduce the contact patch and I use michelin energy tires which makes me save about 10% fuel when driving normally...
Depend on the car, try to tank full and write down how many kms you did with it, then tank 3 times 20L and addition the kms you did with it, should give you the difference....
Logically I would say that a 60L full tank is like the weight of a passenger (woman ) and an heavier car means higher consumption....that said I am lazy and always tank full...
) and an heavier car means higher consumption....that said I am lazy and always tank full...I don't get this?
It is not in the driver settings any more, but I do run dual monitor in span mode without problem in Win7 ultimate 64bit, I just select the span mode where you setup the resolution of the screen...or do you mean something else?
THX Michele, seems to work great for us!
I may have seen you a couples of time on tv here in the Netherlands, nice pictures and great career already!
The new Megane looks great, must be fun to race too?
The new Megane looks great, must be fun to race too?
Well TVE, Ready2roll isn't dead yet, but we had a long period with busy servers where we have experimented a couples of things, so we are resting/hibernating and reflecting on previous experiences.
We are working on some new things and preparing the restart of Dailycious, next month it is one year anniversary for us, so expect to see us back around that time.
What make me sad is that years after years the group of arcade racers is getting bigger while the real sim racers are disappearing slowly.
No offence but it is all about unrealistic settings, exploiting physic's flows, cheats, points, licenses, multiclass, cruising and fast rotations, where are the guys who use to spend time on one track for the sake of improving their driving qualities?
If you organize something, ppls don't even take the time to read the rules properly, always asking questions which can be answered with reading the (f..king) manual or with a simple google search, many don't even know what is a blue flag any more... Is everyone becoming so lazy?
I don't want to give up on sim racing, it is the reason I am here and I will leave LFS before I start becoming an arcade racer.
I think LFS is more than a game, it is a hobby, it takes a long time to improve your driving and learning about the setup of the car, for that you need to love racing and a lot of dedication, so I will keep spending my time here with those guys...even if it means running a less populated servers till they finally returns...
We are working on some new things and preparing the restart of Dailycious, next month it is one year anniversary for us, so expect to see us back around that time.
What make me sad is that years after years the group of arcade racers is getting bigger while the real sim racers are disappearing slowly.
No offence but it is all about unrealistic settings, exploiting physic's flows, cheats, points, licenses, multiclass, cruising and fast rotations, where are the guys who use to spend time on one track for the sake of improving their driving qualities?
If you organize something, ppls don't even take the time to read the rules properly, always asking questions which can be answered with reading the (f..king) manual or with a simple google search, many don't even know what is a blue flag any more... Is everyone becoming so lazy?
I don't want to give up on sim racing, it is the reason I am here and I will leave LFS before I start becoming an arcade racer.
I think LFS is more than a game, it is a hobby, it takes a long time to improve your driving and learning about the setup of the car, for that you need to love racing and a lot of dedication, so I will keep spending my time here with those guys...even if it means running a less populated servers till they finally returns...
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