Might be best to learn how to post topics in the relevant sections first.

After racing the RB4 over longer races in the stock cup I found it's very easy to get the up shift wrong, if it's a little off you hear the engine note rise as the clutch slips a little (that rrrrrrRRRRR sound) if you get it right there is just the solid, no slip, sound as you power on (just the RRRRRRRR). Don't really know how to explain it right, sorry And obviously blip on the downshift but that’s much easier.

On shorter tracks with lots of gear changes and with everything going on, changing up is hard to get right every time, that’s where you need to really lift, engage the gear then power. Simple I know but you just have to do it slower to make sure you get it right.

The way I found best is to actually click the gear up button/paddle on my DFP, then lift off the power and back on again. I think it works better.

Last edited by garph, Fri 18 Apr 2008, 10:57.

Quote from Imprez :

IMHO it also seems a bit harsh not even allowing them to watch other people drive licensed cars.

Demo users have never been able to do that, not even watch full S2 replays, so nothing has changed.

Quote from Imprez :

About not allowing non-demo cars I´m not quite sure I understand the logic behind this. Demo racers still can not select them and drive them, right?

So why wouldn´t they be able to join and play using the cars they ARE allowed to use?

Because they can't join a server with anything non-demo available.

Quote from Bean0 :

Will they get booted though ?

If it's just the allowed cars that change, then anyone still driving the cars that were previously allowed normally gets to continue driving them until they pit.

But they had that car unlocked in the game, S1 user don't have certain cars unlocked.

I vote for them just being booted.

Quote from Shotglass :

That´s what I thought, but surely there must be something in place to soften the "what the hell just happened" effect of being disconnected.

Like a picture of a thumbs up and some text saying, Buy S2, just before they get booted?

Last edited by garph, Thu 17 Apr 2008, 12:02.

Quote from Yisc[NL] :

See, that's what I meant with a constructive discussion. I haven't thought about that and now see you have a valid point with number one. This could be solved with an extra dedi-server only to download by licensed people, but then you still have to option of hacking (which will always be a problem unfortunately). Anyway, maybe Scawen can think the whole idea over and find a solution for it. On the other hand, if he decides to leave it the way it's now, he has every right to do so. I tried and respect what ever the outcome is.

Seems like a lot of extra work just to give more free stuff to people who already get alot of free stuff AND who just got another free bonus.

I don't think it will ever happen I'm afraid.

Quote from Shotglass :

hm so what happens if a server changes the track or maybe just the available cars to s2 content while s1 users are connected?

They'd probably just get disconneted. Seems the obvious thing to happen/thing to do, they'd have to disconnect anyway.

Quote from Yisc[NL] :

I know you meant that sarcastic but I think we have a valid point. Demo means just 2 tracks and 3 cars. So what's the problem in having them on an S2-server with max. 32 people. I don't want to enable 32 users for a demo-server, but if the admin or team is able to run an S2-server, why not let those people in? The admin or team paid their S2-license and if the server-settings match the demo-criteria let them join and experience the feeling of a bigger grid. This way they learn what it is to race in bigger field and encourage them to buy a license and have that same feeling with other cars and/or tracks. So to be clear, I don't want demo-servers to have an option of 32 drivers. I only want them to join an S2-server, which has the requirements for demo-users.

I think they get enough as it is, they need and incentive to buy S2 and I don't think giving them more would work.

Besides I paid for my S2 licence and as harsh as it is I don't want a free demo user getting the same benefits as me, i.e. the full S2 server’s usage. Plus most people won’t want demo users in a grid that size, demo users can still wreck without the same consequences as S2 users.

I know allowing something like that would not go down well with most S2 users.

Quote from jonny__27 :

errr...what do you call someone with the purchase in mind, but not the money in pocket?

Poor.

Quote from Blas89 :

How does the skins thingie work? I figure that if I create a server (XFG @ BL1, 15 users) and a demo comes in, he/she will be able to download the skin I'm using?

Quote from Victor :

demo accounts cannot upload skins to lfsworld - they can only download them from ingame. Low as well as High Resolution (HR only after a payment as usual). Since they can meet licensed racers now, there is actually something to download.

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Quote from JO53PHS :

I'm kinda starting to imagine an Anti demoer movement, where everyone places a cone in their server to stop demoers coming in

I don't think so, there would be no need as a server setup for S2 would mean demo users wouldn't be able to join.

It would be need to be set up as a demo server (number of cars, track, etc) in the first place for demo users and S2 users to mix.

Quote from JO53PHS :

Let me get this straight... Can demoers now go on Licensed servers that are set to Demo combos?

I'm cofuzzled

Yes. (The server would need to match demo restrictions)

Last edited by garph, Wed 16 Apr 2008, 21:57. Reason : more clear?

Quote from Noccy :

Think some people like fe. Phlos will happily spend hours each week making new accounts just to be able to grief some S1/S2 licensed players, not to mention griefer communities like TKC or *mylord*.

Another slight problem could be demo racers who have no idea of certain rules coming to CTRA or other servers and ruining races..this will be quickly solved by the hosts though by simply putting one cone somewhere. (pitexit,grass,sandtrap,etc)

Overall I think it is a very good change, I just hope there aren't enough immature people to spoil it for the demo crowd.
And i'm almost convinced it will reduce the amount of people acting like fools on demo content, which is great.

Good job and keep it up!

Remember that demo users will only be able to join demo content compatible servers, so if you run an S2 server at Blackwood and with the XFG/XRG/FBM with full users allowed demo people won’t be able to join. It would have to be setup as a demo server for demoers to join.

Quote from scoobyrbac :

Also Scawen, is there anyway you could add something to the demo user's name so we could tell if they are demo user or S2 user? Because im in a demo server now my friend started and everyone that comes in we ask if they are a demo user or not...

I think that misses the point of what he is trying to do. You don't really need to know who is who, the demoers will only be in the demo content servers.

That guy gives away his, dumbassness, when he says that rFactor (think it was) has more tracks and so it's better, kinda shows he really shouldn't be writing reviews for any game. Also not finding the mulitplayer bit is also a worrying sign.

Like someone said in a reply, I have no problem that he doesn't like it but it would help if he got his facts right (there were so many errors) and at least had enough brains to find certain game functions.



All the replying in the world isn't going to change his mind or make any difference, except correcting the errors I guess.

If you look further down the forum you'll see a section for wheels and controllers - http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=15

There are many posts from people looking for the same thing you are, give a few a read and you'll get a better idea, I'd suggest the DFP, but it also depends on where you are and what is available.

There is also a wheel guide - http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Wheels

Take a second to look at the forum as a whole and you'll see all the sections that are there. Then you'll know where to post and even if you need to post at all.

Last edited by garph, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 10:33. Reason : added wheel guide link

Quote from Krammeh :

Every single thing that I suggest or release all I get is shot down.

This community can **** off, for as far as im concerned. It's pointless.

Bad community or not so great/repost suggestions?

I'd go for repost suggestions, I've seen the time limited demo idea a few times and someone has even posted the links.

...and dummy spitting, never, ever gets you anywhere. You're much better off just forgetting about the thread.

Quote from harjun :

40fps Exactly.

And you wonder why you get the reaction you get, LMAO!

All you are doing if confirming what people expect from you. If you stop, let’s say, exaggerating so much then maybe you'd be able to move away from your current reputation.

...or just keep doing what you're doing and you'll get the same reaction every time, funny/annoying for me but very bad for you.

Quote from Stang70Fastback :

A lot of people who post here seem to have the same setup. Then have these ridiculously spec'd computers, but then they have things like 2*74 Gb HDD... wtf?! I would expect people who built their own computer, especially computers with those kinds of parts, to require more than that much space for all that they did on it. It's just ODD.

Those H/D's are the 10000rpm raptors, very, very fast and probably running in RAID. They could be just running the OS on them and other vital stuff, then use a bigger H/D for everything else.

I have a 40gb H/D just for XP and a 250gb H/D where I instal everything else. That way XP stays as fast and as clean as the day it was installed.

Quote from harjun :

Err maybe because im talking about the future tense, if you dont know what that means go on google..

You are really not in a position to say things like that, you could have found all this via google yourself or even better, gone to the royal mail website and if it's really concerning you (because it's money) you could have just called the post office and asked.

Use the handbrake and thats a stupid question to ask about a race sim.

...enjoy your burn outs

Like the other poster said, it will go back to the nearest depot.

They will put a little slip through the letter box saying they missed you and you can either collect it from the depot (after a specified time) arrange for another delivery or arrange for it to delivered to your nearest post office where you can collect it.

I know cause I've missed them twice.

Not got that mobo so not sure where it would be.

Are there any overclocking or advanced things to go into, then you'd be looking for DRAM/Memory Voltages, that kind of thing. If there are any system monitor options it might tell you what they are currently set to.

Mine was at 1.8v but it should have been 2.1v. Check your RAM for the right voltages.

EDIT - (NOTE: On most ASUS P5k motherboards there is no option for adjusting RAM voltages when the motherboard is in its default setup. You have to set Ai Overclocking to MANUAL in the Jumper Free configuration menu, this should then reveal the ram voltage further down the Jumper Free configuration page allowing you to change it to 2.3v)

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk ... /topic.asp?topic_ID=34176

Might also be worth checking what the voltage the RAM is getting.

By default my RAM timings were off and so was the voltage, had to increase the voltage and adjust the timings manually. When the voltage was to low it did the same kind of thing, got to the windows logos then crashed.

Quote from Jakg :

His or mine?

I have an Intel Xeon X3210, which is a (now cancelled) Intel Q6420 with the "prefetchers" optimised for server use (which makes about a 3% performance hit in games). It's 2.13 GHz at stock.

His CPU is an E2180.

.....what CPU did you use @2.8 to get 16 seconds.

I believe you more than Harjun, obviously, so if you used and e2180 at 2.8 to get that time then ok, but if you used a different CPU then it doesn't really mean anything in comparisons to Harjun, does it, i.e. Harjun is still bullshitting.

Last edited by garph, Fri 11 Apr 2008, 17:49.