i thought overclocks failed (and generaly, cpus at the 4-5GHz mark) either because the heat generated on the actual die can't be transfered quickly enough to the heatspreader (outer shell) or because clock signals can't be propagated properly and in coordination with the gates in the chip. if electron migration was an issue at 4GHz then that finn couldn't have gone at 6GHz. what am i missing?
it certainly is nice to have some leg room with the psu... but your system won't draw more than... 300 watts? i would be surprised if it used more than that, what with the 8500 sucking less than 50W at full tilt and the 4870 certainly less than 200W. dunno... seems a bit too much. (i see in benchies, here, for instance, that a system with quadcore extreme and 4870 uses less than 300W under load)
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well, looking at some quick game benchmarks at tomshardware, i see that for games, similarly priced X2s are performing better than C2D. i looked at X2 5200+ vs e2160
besides, if a cpu can give more than 60-70fps, you can stop there and give more money to a better gpu. i mean that if you have 300 to spend, it is better to spend 200 on the gpu and 100 to the cpu instead of 150/150. TRUE that this split is targeted at gaming. for instance, when i got my specs, i gave 50 for the cpu (be2350) and 150 for the gpu (3850 256). it is a good split.
you still continue to confuse fact with subjective opinion. 'fact' here being objectively measured performance of very specific cards in controlled conditions. not 'i had an nvidea card that i think was faster than the ati card'. "fact in my mind" is nonsense, i am sorry. that is an "opinion". "opinions" doesn't measure the performance of a card.
your experiences being something completely subjective, while this guy wants something quite objective... like... numbers from benchmarks. and prices. we can't compare 'personal experiences' especialy when they are not even well defined (you don't even say what cards you compared or nothing else)
the 4870 is cheaper than even the gtx260 and is more or less the same performance league as the much more expensive gtx280.
do keep in mind that 'personal experience' doesn't matter much when comparing things. 'personal experience' amounts to 'anecdotal evidence' or 'original research' at best.
looking at benchmarks, the 4870/4850 (230/160 euros) are significantly cheaper and more or less the same performance (in some cases, better, which is very important since they are cheaper) than the gtx280/260 (400/260 euros) .
the 4850 is (being rather generous here) 200w. the c2d is 50w. the mobo with ram and all is 50. the hard drives and all is another 50. so we are looking at 350W maximum peak. considering you have a small number of devices you won't pull too much from any psu rail so even if all your system goes full tilt (which never will) we are looking at ... about 400w (including losses) from the PSU which is very well within its capabilities.
i would buy a 450W better quality PSU if i were you though. less heat.
since you say that xbox has a x86 cpu we are certainly talking about the original xbox. not the 360. the gpu that the xbox has is a geforce3-related gpu which means that coding a module would not be difficult, if not already done. edit: it's the same thing, but the problem is the tv-output module that is not completely controlled. or something.
it's at 0 right now, as it was for ever. if i increase it, the problem becomes greater.
dunno about other games. looking at dxtweak though i can see that the lag is not due to lfs. at least not all of the lag. must be either a driver issue or a hardware issue.
what? that doesn't make sense. what card do you have and how do you know that it has only 64bit hardware graphics? an other question: why would the card care if the app is 32/64? it has its own instruction set. only the driver is important...
what? the IGP is inside a chip that has a lot of other stuff. that is why they call it integrated... it is integrated with other capabilities, in a single chip. how did you check that the IGP is broken?
maybe the DVI/DSUB connector is faulty?
they didn't install vista on ps3. they emulated it. in that sense, you can run anything on ps3. actually, with a bit of patience, you can "run" (actually emulate) anything on anything