I won't drive this round if possible.
It's ... hard with keyboard+mouse, I would be a road block there.
If you're able to keep the turbo spinning you'll fly on SO, FXR damn easy there, XRR to **** hard for me.

Quote from Deutschland2007 :

Finally a decent track again

If you like Monaco and walls.

Last edited by JackCY, Thu 20 Jan 2011, 20:42.

Quote from boothy :

Well I would say next time you see a yellow flag as you come over a crest and then a car spun ahead, take avoiding action more quickly.

And with the 3 wide incident, you obviously didn't know APR were there, however, you either should've looked left or worked out that since they were no longer in your mirror that it had gone 3 wide - watch it from T1 and you can see you move across towards Cargame more than they move towards you...

As for fuel at pitstops - you can adjust the fuel whilst it's changing tyres

yep, will be more carefull.
damn I forgot about that one again, thx

Quote from reason0809 :

New Dimension Racing Events // GTAL 2011 (Season 2) - Round 4

Well said

Last edited by JackCY, Thu 20 Jan 2011, 10:36.

I don't like AS in general, regardless of having a lot of work to do, I decided that I'm gonna make a set for AS6R as we had to start without Bavorak who's usually getting the setup somewhere and I'm just fine-tuning etc. if needed.

So I spent some real time in making the setup, maybe we took a little worse one than the previous version was for the race but still a good fast set.
Was hoping to enjoy the race and do some nice times with that super-grip setup

I have to apologize to M. Runas from Deadline Racing, yes I could have lift off and try to slow down, but I didn't expect that the FZ would have grip problems with it's wide tires so I was flat-out (keyboard gas/brake) and at the end of corner you slowed down so much that I hit you & it turned you around. Sorry.

Crash #1: Terzic I think was laggy, FZ was tailgating him, ready to overtake, Terzic lagged, FZ began to overtake, FZ was doing fine, BOOM, FZ was sideways as it would have hit Terzic, FZ doing spins on track, hitting left wall, coming back on track, spins, and slowly drives at the end to the left wall again. There comes my car over the horizon, I just see some car on the right in a spin or something, so I take left side of road ie stay in racing line, some cars pass IMHO, and now I have better view and I'm much much closer, FZ starts to go to left NOT braking which would be NICE if you crash BRAKE! so the car moves to my line, I hit full brakes and go more to the left almost on grass, no way I can go around, It does a full front collision, FZ flying out of bounds my car stopped on the spot! Other cars pass me on track in 230kph, little damage on front suspension, the rest was body damage, car probably wasn't touching ground in corners but wasn't as fast as it could be. (In real world = dead, 230kph->0kph).
Please if you do spin, crash, use FULL BRAKES

Then I try to recover to the track,when cars are passing me at top speed ~230kph. Recovered to the back of field.

Crash #2: 19 Cargame + 29 APR, 19 Cargame drafts me on s/f straight after I overtook it in the last corner, 29 APR drafts 19 Cargame, 19 is not that fast to safely overtake on straight, 19 fails to block 29, so we approach 3 side by side into T1, 19 and 25 makes contact because there is not enough room (racing incident :/, IMHO 19 drives too much right pushing me too much inside, but could be coz of the contact maybe), full brakes, pushed way inside on grass, got back on track at the apex, I'm trying to stabilize the car so I can set a direction, but it just goes from side to side, flying out of track to the sand + wall, hit the wall and jump over the sand trap back on track to the racing line, so I floor the gas to get away as cars are flying into T1 behind me. Car heavily damaged from the impact with wall. Had to do a one whole lap to get to pits to repair the car, changed tires but forgot that LFS doesn't set fuel as final amount of fuel in tank but rather as how much to add to tank, so I end-up with ~90% of fuel in tank Ain't that easy to set F11, F12 on keyboard+mouse, gotta solve that somehow. + My F11 mouse macro died when the race started, so I couldn't adjust a thing without letting of the steering wheel (mouse).

Repaired, tank full of gas, thought I'm gonna do full stint but SC wasn't coming at all, switched as we planed Lala got the wheel, no fuel added, still +15% over needed fuel. After some time Lala got disconnected, he rejoined back, but more time was lost, server restart, Lala drives the last hour.

See you at KY3B The last good round of GTAL, can't drive SO, and 12h of BL sucks, dunno who voted for that, damn short, damn boring and goddamn long 12h on a supershort track, what a fail :thumbsdow

I have to say it, server is damn bad, lags etc. you name it it has it all every round.
Cars are jumping on the track sometimes, like 1 meter or so, which means you can't drive close at all nor overtake.

Disastrous round as the previous was.

Where is the server? 500servers or where is it? Which country. To UK I have like so my connection is quite OK

Quote from reason0809 :

i already hate everything about this round 4

stupid slow track for fxr, being 4 seconds slower than usual when pushing the car to its limit and further, peace of shit turn 1, ****ing slow sector 2, disgusting slow part in beginning of sector 3, crappy going wide into grass at turn 19

dear aston, lick my arse

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

The track is fast, FX9 shouldn't be that slow it has the most power, if tuned properly you will have very good corner exit due to 4 wheels putting the power down. I'm not sure how different is the weight distribution from XR9 but if it's too much to the front it won't be good. You have to choose do you won't a crappy FWD or make the FX9 more of a RWD to save the front tires. It's about setup & driver FX9, ain't that big piece of scrap metal. Look at TDRT. Not every track is suited best for XR9 or FX9 nor FZ9. This probably ain't a FX9 track.

I'll attend test race, did stint today no wind probably on server now, tires all over 90% wear at the end, will see how they hold up in race with wind.
Sadly there can't be high wind, I love wind

It depends on setup & driver if you can jump through T1, it's though and with wrong set nearly impossible, my problem is I lock the tires on brakes sometimes :/ shitte keyboard, I wan't ABS
Still was able to do 2 nice laps in qualification, my first in GTAL and hopefully the last I would have to drive 30min race pace and than start the qualification so the tires are in better shape and I know the track better.
This jump in and push hard ain't for me as the tires goes to hell.

Yeah this way you can beat some team 6/7 races, but if the other team get lucky and beat you in last race with position better than you ever did in previous 6 races, end up with same total points at the end, they get the better position in final because of that good last race position, even though the first team got them 6 times in previous races they lose.
I know about this rule, but wasn't sure you use it, as it sometimes gets this ugly. But definitely easy to sort and probably a common rule

Little question, how do you order teams with the same total points?

Last edited by JackCY, Thu 23 Dec 2010, 10:12.

Quote from dekojester :

:doh: I had to forget something surely

Did you remove the pole-position +2 points awards from Round 1 and 2, by accident?
I'm did my own provisional table yesterday, had to correct it today after penalties. And I noticed that those points are missing IMHO.
It is correct on Round 1 and 2 results, but disappeared on Round 3 results.

http://newdimensionracing.com/ ... AL/2011/Round2_Points.png
http://newdimensionracing.com/ ... AL/2011/Round3_Points.png

Here's mine result table, I got the poles highlighted:
GTAL_Results.htm

Or we have to beat 00 Adenoids Racing to get the +2 points for pole?
That's how it looks like now

Last edited by JackCY, Thu 23 Dec 2010, 20:18.

Quote from theodinho29 :

We are very lucky sometimes.. Little pictures

Nice, I think it could be an 1 hour movie from the stunts made in Round 3

Koa128: well this race we had complete team on TS and checking positions blue flags reporting to the driver with who are we competing with ,who's lap behind, who's coming up through the field, etc.

suzuki94: I didn't know anybody did that in race I must say I've never seen a more clear one probably, what a show. What time is it in replay?

Quote from MonkeyHead :

I also want to apogolize for mpwr team #25 because I made you spin in end of race. I maybe surprised a little about your braking style there but yes it was my fault and I didin't mean to ruin your race.

Yeah I was a very small bit slower than I would be in a fast lap, I just wanted to be safe, which turned upside down. I'm using mouse+keyb so it ain't that easy to slowdown/accelerate. But my brakes are usually weaker than on setups for pedals.

hyntty (PM doesn't work):
Sorry for the stupid comments, I just couldn't help myself after seeing the stint again.
Thx for closing it.
I can't remove the comments to leave just the pics or some of the pics.
You can do so if you like, coz I can't while it's closed.
Or feel free to delete the thread

I'm sorry if this upset people or gave you more work that was not intentional.

Jack

Quote from boothy :

That's better, it's just that it takes a long time to scroll and the filesizes are big

Yeah made it smaller now it's only 3MB progressive JPG now, I do understand that loading the pictures might take some time, I'm 100mb/s connected to the server with pictures theoretically so I asked on IRC

Quote from boothy :

For god sake don't post massive pictures in this thread!!!

I made them smaller now, what's wrong with pictures?

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Quote from bavorak :

...I am not completely against SC but please dont use it 5 times during one stint...

I had 6x SC in the last stint of race, I guess that I've been able to do max 6 proper race laps out of the 20, well proper... it was just fighting for position and moose testing

Quote from bavorak :

Session of Incident: race
Lap of incident: 126
Timecode of incident: 5:29:00 (time elapsed from start of the race)
Our car Number: 25
Other Car(s) Involved: 21
Brief description of incident:
driver of the car 25 (J.Cerny) was braking into turn right after 2nd split (T14) when Falck (who was 1 lap behind us) hit his rear end of the car and caused our car (#25) to spin
We have lost a lot of positions by this incident as it was right after restart of the race.

Lap of incident: 127 for car 25, 126 for car 21)
Timecode of incident: starts at 5:29:00, ends around 5:29:25
There has been collisions of other cars with 21 afterwards.

Driving:
Calm down when on track, I know it looks like 1 lap sprint race even if it's 6 hour race but... be careful, I don't care if you drive aggressively for the best time (pushing the limit/car) but don't drive aggressively against other cars!
This is not a sprint race on a public demo server as it sometimes looked like that yesterday.

You gotta know when you can or can't overtake, I'm sick of having to move away and let you pass in a no pass possible situations just not to get wrecked by your pedal to the metal I'm not gonna move away an inch behavior, we're going 3 wide in to a high speed chicane and play a Russian roulette, the one with most luck will survive and for the other 2 it's race over.
I would like you to imagine the pain or loss it would have been in real life when you do such a stupid move, 33% overtook but got banned for life from racing coz the other 2 got injured/killed, 33% car wrecked + lot of pain + months in hospital, 34% dead coz you hitted a wall in 160km/h (the car might survive that but your internal organs won't).

SC:
I think using so much SCs was not necessary, as when somebody is on the roof and is not on the track, it's race over for him (spectate) as in real life the track personnel would remove the car and there would be only yellow flag in the area.

SC IMHO should be used only when there is more cars involved, wrecks on track, and the section when there is something on track is too dangerous to use only yellow flag.

Also when somebody damages their car so much that it can't steer and get to pits by itself it's IMHO race over for them, why to call SC and push them to pits? The car has so much damage that it's not drivable in real life (LFS also) and has to retire from race, sorry but that's how it goes.

I think it's fine to give a push to a car when it gets stuck in sand etc. as the car is undamaged and can continue without help around track.

If you need help to get around track, then it's race over for you IMHO. (Well you'll loose so much time that you can't get a good position anyway.)

Quote from Grigorov :

Or those who was unable to drive normal from teams like your!? BOW

hey, I'm not going to read this **** talk, go to IRC this is not a chat but forum

Session of Incident: Race
Lap of incident: probably 66 [Turn 9, 9a]
Timecode of incident: LFS Remote: around 2h 54min
Your car Number: 25
Other Car(s) Involved: 09
Brief description of incident:
Car 09 Todorovic fights for position while under blue flag not letting 25 pass, 09 making contact with 25, getting 25 into spin and out of track while 09 is continuing race.

Last edited by JackCY, Sat 18 Dec 2010, 18:24.

Can somebody teach me how to do a proper start? I know it's faster to floor the gas and use brake to slow down to the correct speed, but using clutch shouldn't be so much slower? I just can't start properly, there is this mix of green and yellow flag and it takes time to see the green flag, then I just release clutch but others are already flying away
I never know when to start, the green flag is terribly visible at least for me. Standing starts are much easier, even F1 has them
No boring double file. And it's really nice to see the car in front braking when it's not actually slowing down... just killing the engine power.

It depends, but here he has enough overlap, the problem might be that he's in a blind spot, so you have to hear him where he is, I'm just wondering how he could turn in so easily, you should have fly through that corner, just leave him a bit of space so he has place where to slow down in order to be able to turn.

see csf's image #1

The rules, it's the same Rule as in CRC, so it ain't anything new... just plain old overtaking rule.
Don't be so aggressive this is not a sprint race...
I don't care if somebody faster passes me, at least I won't lose so much time when blocking him which increases the risk of collision & mistakes.

Last edited by boothy, Mon 22 Nov 2010, 18:33.