lol there is also this to consider

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Alto

(evil grin)

had 2 of these on different holidays, my mum calls them little fart boxes lol

edit2:now this really is an option, but i suggest you get down the gym and do a bit of weight lifting, no pas you see, a real mans car
http://search.autotrader.co.uk ... _pr=1000&max_mileage=

Last edited by james12s, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 10:23.

actually dan that is again a good one, older, not really modded by people etc

edit:just had a thought, something like a dahwoo nexia

lol my attitude would be it may be a skoda but atleast i can afford to buy something other than insurance lol, im probably gona have either a land rover or a mini as my first car,

tbh people may mock a skoda but because its not a common young driver car the insurance will be alot cheaper

atm a diesel is not really worth it fuel cost wise, i dunno bout insurance but diesels will be in excess of 1.6litre to be anywere near effective tbh, anything smaller is stupid, i would also stay away from the cars that are often done up cos they cost more to insure even if not modded, i know someone who paid less to insure him, at 17, on a 3.5litre v8 range rover than a 1 litre nova, if you do get a cheap car try it on a policy with a fixed value etc, may effect it may not depends ont he insurer.

edit: have a look at a mini, can tremember how tall you are but im nearly 6ft and have driven a mini(private land) was a little uncomfortable but its not hard work to mount the seats further back, i think you v=cna get kits to do it

i just got to say ive never loled so hard about a thread before, i can just imagine the conversation with the idiots in argos, well thats what there like at me local argos

exactly 4 strokes are relible and can take alot of abuse and rebulding them is so easy, i rebuilt them all the time

thats rare, ive never seen 2 stroke hire karts in the uk or abroad

Quote from Jakg :

Although he's right (I usually only ever need brakes twice or so on the track) do NOT try it. I used to race on the same track twice a month for about 2 years and only once I really knew the track (i.e. 3-6 months) did I try the "lets not brake for this corner idea". Once I tried this, I ended up doing the entire race trying either not braking (and throwing the kart into the bend with the tyres screeching to hell, which was suprisingly fast) or to slam the brakes on at the last second and to use the locked wheels to cure all understeer. Not ideal techniques, I admit, but when you've got somone on your tail, catching them out with a little bit of sideways action after braking late tends to cause them to lose time. I actually perfected a technique of not braking throughout the entire track (which I needed the next race as the brakes were f00ked).

EDIT - In short - Don't try it unless you know the track well :P

EDIT 2 - The kart with the brakes that were fooked was a totally different kart to the last one, and had been in storage for a while - our team got the "short straw" in taking it, and we did surprisingly well in it. I've never broken a kart (that wasn't already flaming a little or had a slipping clutch when I got in)!

i do this all the time at my uncles track, the only place i every use the brakes is coming of a long straight or maybe just a dab coming into the very tight, chicane/hairpin mix

ah ok, does she race lfs as well then ??

lol fair enough, how about if you put a slightly cheaper one in hers

Quote from jaws99 :

Be very smooth, don't slide at all. I imagine you'll be using slow 4-strokes so keeping your momentum and the engine revs high is crucial

Also, I would adivse you to wear a thick jumper as it bloody hurts if you get hit and you don't ahve the luxury of a rib protector, the amount of times i've had massive bruises on my back is ridiculous.

yh the biggest rule especcially in hire karts is keep the revs up, it keeps the centrefugal clutch engaged or at least near it

Quote from Dajmin :

nVidia here. Currently a 7900GS Extreme.
I want to upgrade to 8-series but they're still a little out of our price range

you can get an 8600gts from novatech for 46 quid

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.jsp?NOV-86GTS

gotta be clapton for me

yh if you think that it will be just like lfs, you will fail but if you take more of a driving style and racecraft from lfs then it will work or should

Quote from gacek1 :

Nvidia 8600 GTS 256mb

same here, the inno 3d ichill one

dan12s is gettnig the same soon, im fitting it for him

well i would say if you think about it correctly it will help slightly, my uncle runs a kart track and ramming etc gets you off the track, instantly, so it shouldnt be tolerated, as for the track, never been indoor but have driven an indoor sized outdoor track, you need to possition the kart right and get a rythm, and datona karting are good as well so should be enjoyable

i agree with jack on this of your using the pc only for lfs, a bit pointless imho but hey, then the e8400 will be great but for me i do multiple things on my pc, some video making, pic editing, transcoding movies to dvd format, and alot of stuff were spreading the load works really well,so like jack i have a q6600, i depends on what you want to do, multi tasking, 4 cores are good but if you are only playing lfs a high power dual core is better

edit:and another thing to really remember especcially with all pc stuff is that just because its the most expencive dont mean its the best or the best for your needs

ide say quite a while if ever because from what has been said before it would need alot of changes to the base programming.

lol ajp, im a btcc fan but i get what you mean, the grid place out a hat idea is a bit silly, unless your one of the jordans/john guest(who is my favorite team), both father and son do well out of the reverse sytem

Quote from Victor :

now see, finally some constructive critisism. I've moved the tags and bookmarks further down.

i must admit that is much better

Quote from Jakg :

You like the Tags feature? I've never seen it used constuctively...

PLEASE make the "bookmarks" and "tags" feature an option...

im with you on that one

ok maybe a tad dramatic but im stillnot a fan, i think for most people its not liking change

yes it existed but not in that way and it is they way it does it now that is the problem

no there was a freind system and i used it so people i would like to see if they were online had a + next to there name making them easier to spot but the new system is horrible