I expect most of the UK team for the LFS WS qualifiers will also drive in MoE
.Yes, we're aware of that. The LFS WS event doesn't start until around 2 hours after the end of the MoE race so hopefully things people can race in both, should they wish to.
Sorry, I thought what Paul said had made things clear.
If Slovakia has it's own forum which you want to use for discussion amongst the Slovakian team, then your signed-up drivers needn't register on lfshosting.net. However, the team manager(s) should register at lfshosting.net regardless. You should do this now and not wait until the qualification event is over.
If Slovakia has it's own forum which you want to use for discussion amongst the Slovakian team, then your signed-up drivers needn't register on lfshosting.net. However, the team manager(s) should register at lfshosting.net regardless. You should do this now and not wait until the qualification event is over.
Sorry Ondrejko... completely forgot to reply concerning the forum registration issue; looks like Paul has cleared that up now anyway.
Going by what you said previously, surely once the retired car is lapped by the cars ahead, the gap would automatically appear in laps instead of time?
If this is coded how I'd think it would be, it would not matter if a car retired; the existing code would work as expected.
Yes, that would be perfect.
I look forward to seeing it finished
.Please compare drivers at the last mutual sector. The MoE tracker doesn't do this and, as such, gaps between cars can be very inaccurate.
For example:
Team X is on lap 100.0
Team Y is on lap 99.2
The MoE tracker would say that the gap is 1 lap. What it should do is compare the total times at the last common sector. So, Team Y's total time at 99.2 laps minus Team X's time at 99.2 laps. This way the gap would be the last known gap, and not an inaccurate guess for the majority of the lap.
This would still not be perfect, as you would be computing gaps using different lap numbers for each gap as you go down the field, however it would be a much better way of doing it than the MoE tracker imo.
Let me know if this is unclear.
For example:
Team X is on lap 100.0
Team Y is on lap 99.2
The MoE tracker would say that the gap is 1 lap. What it should do is compare the total times at the last common sector. So, Team Y's total time at 99.2 laps minus Team X's time at 99.2 laps. This way the gap would be the last known gap, and not an inaccurate guess for the majority of the lap.
This would still not be perfect, as you would be computing gaps using different lap numbers for each gap as you go down the field, however it would be a much better way of doing it than the MoE tracker imo.
Let me know if this is unclear.
Team Name: spdoRacing
Car Number: 19
Drivers:
T.Hirvonen [Misan] FIN
J.Mattila [.deFINe.] FIN
J.Di Fabio [joshdifabio] GBR
Car Number: 19
Drivers:
T.Hirvonen [Misan] FIN
J.Mattila [.deFINe.] FIN
J.Di Fabio [joshdifabio] GBR
Those non-eu teams are all already qualified, what's the point in them having a qualifying round? We want representitives from all around the world in the competition proper, not only Europe, that is why these nations don't need to qualify.
Once again, LOOK at the number of sign-ups from European nations. How on Earth do you expect there to be three European qualifying groups from that?! We don't even expect to fill one!
We basically only have European sign-ups, so there wouldn't really be any point in holding a Pacific qualification with just Australia, and maybe New Zealand, who don't have a single sign-up at this point. Take a look at the number of posts in each country-s sub-forum to see what I mean. There simply have not been enough interested nations to warrant qualification events for lots of regions.
If, for example, Hungary and one other country, Country X, were vying for the last place in the qualification event, and Hungary had 6 sign-ups to the 7 of Country X, but Hungary's sign-ups included Norbi, Csimpok, revenger, mot3c, csurdongulos etc. we would probably use common sense and decide to include Hungary. However, we don't think it's too likely that we'll have more than 16 European nations wanting to compete in the qualification event.
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Yes, this is partly to ensure that no nations cheat with "account sharing" during the qualification races.
We don't expect to get more than 16 teams wanting to take part in the qualification event. If we do, however, we'll most likely filter the additional nations based on the number of sign-ups and the quality of their signed-up drivers. Those 11 teams which were previously accepted in to the series would be guaranteed a spot in the qualification event should they choose to take part.
11 European nations have been accepted into the competition so far.
- Czech Republic
- Denmark
- Estonia
- Finland
- Germany
- Great Britain
- Ireland
- Netherlands
- Poland
- Russia
- Serbia
For each one of these nations that agrees to take part in the qualifying event, an invite will be put up for grabs. For example; if 6 of those 11 teams agree to take part, the 6 teams which score the most points in the qualification event will be granted entry to LFS WS!
We agreed that it's not fair to force teams to risk losing their place after we had already announced that they'd been accepted.
Hopefully most, if not all of the European nations will do the right thing and decide to take part in the qualification event!
That's correct, this is only for European nations though. Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Mexico, and USA are all guaranteed a place in the season proper. We are counting Russia as a European nation.
Maybe you should write more clearly in future, because obviously what you have written suggests otherwise; namely that we did not consider the possibility that countries would use certain drivers for the entire season.
There are several of us who've been discussing the rules and format of the competition, and none of us objected to having two drivers per team. Appie suggested that two drivers, generally, will prepare better than one, which I personally think is a good point. It also promotes more of a team or togetherness feel imo, which would seem key to this kind of competition.
Finally, I don't personally see a problem with a format similar to that of BoTT. It has been a successful competition, and, just because this is a competition for nations and not teams, the principal idea is still the same.
As Paul has said; if you check the rules, you will see that we do infact have a rule in place to protect against this.
"Series specific rules
Each driver will only be able to participate in up to 3 races per season."
This means that each nation will have to use a minimum of 6 drivers.
Heh, really good point there, Tweak. Why on Earth would a "World Series" be all about singularity? It's a competition based on finding the best Nation, not the best driver; it's about working in unison with your compatriots, not about winning by yourself, for yourself.
Contrary to what you may believe, we've had a lot of internal discussion about all of the mentioned rules, and you've not exactly presented any concise arguments as to why anything should be changed.
I do sympathise with those teams which haven't made the cut, and maybe Bawbag's idea of 3 drivers per team, split over two servers, is a good one. I think the plan is to keep things managable for the first season though, and then, if it's a success, it can probably be expanded to include more countries in the future.
I just spoke to Benji on MSN about this, but I'll confirm it here.
We won't be able to make the test race tonight as only 1 driver is available. I pretty much just assumed we'd have 2 for tonight but illness, other league races and 21st birthday parties mean we only have 1 driver.
I'm very sorry about this, I hope it doesn't come across as a lack of respect, and I'm quite hopefuly that we'll be more reliable once the season starts!
We won't be able to make the test race tonight as only 1 driver is available. I pretty much just assumed we'd have 2 for tonight but illness, other league races and 21st birthday parties mean we only have 1 driver.
I'm very sorry about this, I hope it doesn't come across as a lack of respect, and I'm quite hopefuly that we'll be more reliable once the season starts!
spdo will be there .
.I don't quite understand how you think they would have taken the data from RSC..? Lots of people had LFS license names which were different to their RSC username, and also the vast majority of RSC users would not have been LFS license holders. Do you think they checked every LFS license name for a corresponding RSC account and copied the date? From a programming perspective I can't believe they would have done that. Obviously they wouldn't have manually copied 68,000 accounts either...
Are you sure? Your RSC account has a different join date to your LFS account.
Well that clears things up then I guess!
Well it seems unlikely that anyone who registered at the beginning of 2003 and, 2.5 years later was still active in LFS (registering on this forum), would not be licensed.
No, the usernames and join dates are for LFS accounts only. These are completely seperate from RSC accounts.
Edit: So, back on topic, vari was the first person to register a LFS account (apart from Victor), but afaik it's impossible to see who bought the first S1 license. S1 wasn't released until July 17th 2003, by which time there were 1000s of accounts already created.
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