Sadly, this had to be done:

I think it could be a fine time for the winner to come from Africa.

I bet Togo. (Just because the "I told you!" factor is considerably high with Togo )

Gotta say one thing. Finnish people don't do smalltalk. At all. The minimalism of gestures but maximalism of their meaning in silent communication is an artform in here.

The words are pronounced as they're written, but the letters are still pronounced differently than in English (for example). That's why it's hard for foreigners to pronounce Finnish properly (or for the Finnish politicians to pronouce English...)

I love this new patch, great work!

The MRT was fun previously, since it required so precise and consistent handling. Getting several clean laps in South City was very rewarding. The MRT is even more fun now, whole new level. While not so punishing anymore, it gives more freedom and with freedom comes speed.
I always loved the LX's and now they're perfect.

Used the "patch Q era" setups in UFR-SOSprint1 combo and while the setups were clearly "wrong" I managed to beat my best time by over a second. This new patch brings a nice addition: setups has to be built again. Me likes

Also few things I don't like about. It seems that wheelanimation has to be enabled in open wheelers (not mrt) to see gear-rpm-speed info. I have kind of a "mid-to-low end" computer, so I liked to race without wheel animation and add few fps's. Still, I think I like it better this way in perspective of simulation. This is no biggie. Another thing is that I miss the "clutch on while holding gear shift button down". Now I can't rev excessively without reaching the keyboard

Quote from Gentlefoot :

Thick skin is compulsory for anyone wishing to enjoy LFS.

You mean like *really* dark colors or just many many layers of stickers?

Then came the droids...

1) Male
2) 26
3) greenish
4) Other: me, myself and I (I'm the god of my life, although mom and dad are my creators)
5) 10 (has to be, 100% behind myself)
6) MSc
7) No.
8) Well, not fully, since every theory is just an approximation. But more yes than no.
9) No.
10) No.
11) Yes.
12) Strongly agree
13) Disagree
14) Disagree
15) There's no such thing as intelligence or order. Only chaos and stupidity.
16) Makes sense. Works for me.

Quote from Bob Smith :

With realtime acceleration, which from standstill at a constant 10g takes just over 35 days.

Not if the cars are fitted with the Infinite Improbability Drive or one using bistromathics.

Quote from AndroidXP :

Well, I don't. But atleast I'm prepared that there might be an obstacle on the track, activating my subconscious escape-route-search routine.

Heh, nothing personal (or dead serious for that matter ), but isn't this "I'm completely aware of the situation and can still drive as fast as possible" attitude the main cause of most real life crashes?

Quote from SkyNet :

It's only a game, get a life guys.

(Totally stealing this thread, or atleast trying )

Now how was it...

Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family, Choose a funky big television, Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players, and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed-interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose a three piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing sprit-crushing game shows, stuffing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing you last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, f***ed-up brats you have spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life.

Using teamskins without team-membership is just not worth it. It just have to be looked at this way: how many could wear the Hell'sAngels colors, participate in a bikerally and not get some (seriously) bad karma?

Another issue is the thing about copyrights. It actually is an issue with our world-wide society and the perspect of individuals. Everyone has to get somekind of "reward" from the stuff they've created, or at least no-one else should gain from the works that I've done, without me getting "whats rightly mine". I don't deny those things. I admit that it bothers me a lot, if someone "uses my ideas or creations" and takes all the credit. That just sucks. I'm a lot less negative, if the (ab)user atleast give me credits for my original work (don't care that much about money ).

What I'm trying to say, is that skins can be modifed or "sampled", if the credits for original creation(s) is given. Ofcourse if someone says "don't" then don't. Not a biggie, not the end of the world.

Kind of like in sample-based music... Besides, everything has already been invented and created

Heh, had to check this one out...


666 MB :evil:

Quote from Forbin :

...was pretty decent with it once I learned how to make a setup that would compensate for the binary throttle and brake.

Hmm.. now, where was that pc-adapter for good ol' TAC-2... ;D

It's all about learning. I use MS Sidewinder non-ff stick and I find it rather smooth. The fact that I get smoked a lot comes from the fact that I don't have enough experience. Wheel might or might not improve my times, but driving and training will surely do. Only problems with 'stick are that longer races with relatively few turns and braking points tend to tire my hand (I use y-axis as gas/brakes).

Hmm.. maybe those settings need a bit more work... Didn't crash though

I just wonder why doesn't people complain that they don't receive chassis, seat, seatbelts, driving suit and helmet with LFS although they have paid for simulator. (Or do they come with S3? )

It actually doesn't matter if the "physics" of the game are flawed when comparing to real life, when the talk is about the game. It's the game we play, so from that point of view the bugs are actually features and they have to be learned in order to be competitive. If the features seem dull, well then maybe should consider playing something else. Besides it's easy to blame "bugs" or "flaws" if one just doesn't have the patience to learn the game. "Stupid game 'cause the rules are too complex for me."

I'm definitely not saying that the "features" shouldn't be "fixed" or that LFS shouldn't be developed to be "better". But when a patch that changes e.g. physics comes, things has to be relearned to be competitive again (or at least, such as in my case, to be able to drive without utter frustration). That's the name of the game. Adopt, adapt and improve. Complaining won't help.

It's perfectly acceptable (from game's point of view) to use features, such as high-nosed thingees or locked diff's (ofcourse smaller community can set "gentlemen's rules" that forbid those). When those things change with further patches, I'm quite sure that many people will complain that their knowledge of the game physics has to be relearned. Tough.

Those who complain just don't have the skills for the game or just are too short-sighted to know better. The secret (or so it seems to be) is that instead of complaining, making suggestions - that hasn't been already made for dozens of times - might bring more positive response.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I think there's been a general shortage of letter "E"s since the advent of the world wide web. What with email, ecommerce, e-banking, e-government and so on, there just aren't enough letter "E"s left over for the words that traditionally employed them.

It won't actually stop there. Most uses of letter 'e' in making busines look better (e-PR) actually say nothing to most people. Those confused people also use lots of 'e' letters.. "Eeee... what?"
Nothing wrong with 'Xclusive' if it's pronounced correctly (that is, actually without the 'e')

Quote from Vendetta :

Well, you shouldnt be driving in the grass anyway!

What, you mean I should drive on tarmac?

Now where's the sport in that?

May this be a warning to every boy and girl out there driving Aston Cadet with MRT.

Only way out was tele-pitting. With space I got resetted back to being stucked.

I listen netradios while at work.

Radio Helsinki at mornings, Kohina at afternoons.

If I really need to concentrate into my work, then I choose Bluemars or Cryosleep (both ambient). Sometimes Chromanova (psy-goatrance).

Crappy rock can be heard from old-school radios all the time and good one isn't broadcasted.

Quote from Blowtus :

if 'acceptance of the game laws' was all that was needed for a good game, you wouldn't see all of these games having patches produced at sizeable cost to the companies developing them lfs is enjoyable for many because of the relation it bears to 'real life' racing.

Well yes of course. What I meant was that the relation to 'real life' racing is one of the reasons why someone would accept the gamelaws in the first place Another reason could be the knowledge that further patches are coming and the game improves in it's relation to 'rl racing'. No-one is forced (at least I hope so) to accept the current set of laws the game has to offer. I mean that players can only accept or not accept the laws, as well as suggest improvements instead of demanding them. Of course the discussion should be open to all points of view, but it should be noted that the community can't control the coders unless they want them to. And in that case I'm pretty sure they tell so themselves

I know this could go a way off-topic but still..

I see the "physics" like this: LFS is a (or "the" ) game and games tend to have their own "physics", set of laws that govern the borders where the game can be played. Game's laws are kind of global set, where each individual player carves subsets to suit their "needs". If grip is low at low speeds, then it is: it's player's concern to take that into notice if she/he wants to be competitive within the game's global laws.

Simulation can't be the reality, because then it wouldn't be simulation anymore. Mainly it's in player's head and the outlines of the game aren't actually that important. At least I've (nearly) fallen of my chair when crashing in Pit Stop 2 and also when I've been deep into fighting positions in LFS-race and crashing suddenly. I know this can provoke, but at least I'm hooked if any game offers that "magic" that gets me into the Zone and can't be described.

LFS is an ongoing project. I accept that. LFS isn't my project. I accept that too. I accept everything that belongs to LFS (and not just the concrete things, but abstracts as well). If I wouldn't accept a single thing, I wouldn't be playing it. That doesn't mean I like everything, but I have to accept the global set of "LFS-laws" so that I can find my own subset from it. When further patches come, I'll just adjust my subset according to the changed global set. Adopt, adapt and improve. I'm not a god of this game. I accept that fully. I'm just a pawn that has come to play at the pantheons playgrounds. I don't have shackles, but it's their ground, their laws, their rules.

As a codeslave I hate when someone who doesn't understand the environment I'm coding (or don't understand the actual coding itself) comes with only demands and who won't help the coding in any other way. I also hate when in mid-project someone is "forced" into codeteam without consulting us, the original coders. I admire the trio behind LFS for doing what they want. Wish I could too. At least I can give my supports to them.

Wish I made some sense. I tend easily tend to slip, drift and rant unclearly

I was driving Aston Historic with FOX and failed to handle the first chicane, so I spinned into right wall and went thru' it.

Here's a replay, the incident happens during hotlapping and at first go at that chicane. Replay ends when I automatically returned to track (I believe that is a feature: you get autoreturn to track if diving too deep into off-track textures, right?).

Oh, and same thing happened when I had saved the attached replay and went for another hotlap. That also wasn't intentional.

Quote from Huru-aito :

And, of course, one Finnish track: Ahvenisto. Both tracks, tarmac and rallycross.

Aah, Ahvenisto... Considering the political athmosphere that has ruled Hämeenlinna for decades, it's a little miracle that Ahvenisto still exists... Never raced it, but had my "dark hours driving session" in driving school there.

Ok, maybe bit off topic, but just had to rant about it for..

From the moment I unlocked S2, the LX4 and LX6 have been the Ones. I'm so much in love with them, that I still haven't driven but few laps with them. I want to raise my level of driving skill before I hop into them. I really don't want to wreck them. They're... everything.

They're kind of my garages jewels. Just polishing and mending, 'till I'm fully prepared.

Kind of mental illepall