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KeiichiRX7
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Duke, James,

Out of curiosity how many endurance races have you been in so far? I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but you cant claim that popularity had anything to do with team selection. If it did my team wouldnt be there. I don't think anyone outside of Fragmaster community have heard of Zwarte Wind Racing.

With no real reputation to wave around it obviously wasn't our reputation of fielding strong racers, which we do most of the time. We don't claim to be an entire team of fast drivers, maybe a little above par but we arent a team of world record holders (just one or two of us). So it can't have been based on speed.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Nutty, I think for once I agree with you. There's not much more than can be said on the subject.
KeiichiRX7
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1) The Aston endurance (May 21 2006) race ZWR raced in was 4 hours not 2
2) ZWR Raced in the Kyoto 24Hour earlier this year as well. 20th out of 22 GTR class entries isnt bad when you account for the MANY mishaps. (damn curb error)
3) We have experience in other leagues as well.
4) Every team is a new team at some point. We were lucky enough to get a chance to prove ourselves the first time around. Before our application was even accepted we were making preparation for both the series AND the support races. WHY? Because we KNOW the level of competition in this league. We were COMMITTED to racing in a Masters of Endurance series, be it the feature series or the Support series.
KeiichiRX7
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Beggars and Choosers mates, Beggars and Choosers
KeiichiRX7
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Quote from duke_toaster :No, FWD GTR is a separate class totally. And that isn't a good idea for MoE at all.

Why the bloody hell not? Like I mentioned before "2 classes" kinda like real endurance racing. Lets take a look at the Rolex Sports Car Series. Daytona Prototypes and Grand Touring cars run at the same time, every race. Le Mans does the same thing with more classes. the Grand Am series has Grand Am and Grand Sport on the track at the same time. Its not like this is unprecedented.

Just like in the Kyoto 24 Hour earlier this year there were 5 (if i remember correctly) classes. On the server i was on it was GTR's C-GTR's and GTi's. The GTR's passed GTi's like they were standing still, but in most cases we still had plenty of time to avoid them. Shame that some of the GTR class drivers showed so little respect to the GTi Drivers. They worked just as hard to get there as everyone else.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
There people go assuming again. I asked once,end of story.
KeiichiRX7
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Again we have an assumption. We did not record the stream for distribution. Someone else recorded the stream and then put it on the forum.

Quote :OK. So why didn't you wait for a response for confirmation to do simFIA.

Uh, because I didn't do anything further regarding this until I had confirmation of coverage. Oh, wait, I think I know what that's called...... It's just escaping me.... Oh, I'll just keep writing and see if it comes to me.

and heres the complete chat log from Skype regarding this.

Quote :
Quote :2006-08-29
Owen Atkin: 17:22:32Come Listen to ZWR Radio
Go to http://www.tuning-base.nl
We will be online until 11pm GMT
Mark Tomlin: 17:22:44Oh joy!
Owen Atkin: 17:23:03actually we are planning on doing race reports and the like
Mark Tomlin: 17:23:13Oh Joy!
Owen Atkin: 17:23:33and the rest of the time its just music fun for listening to, but yeah SimFIA might get some exposure ala radio
Owen Atkin: 17:25:14by the way, how long before the DTM race?
Mark Tomlin: 17:25:27About 3:30 minutes
Owen Atkin: 17:25:48hmm not soon enough, i was gonna ask if we could do a test broadcast of a live race
Owen Atkin: 18:21:17at this moment I'd like to ask for the exclusive coverage of SimFIA events
2006-09-01
Mark Tomlin: 22:00:40No
Mark Tomlin: 22:06:12This is what I'm about to post.
Mark Tomlin: 22:06:13
Quote from KeiichiRX7 :I suggest you check your skype then my friend, because I asked directly nto only for coverage but the exclusive on the live coverage.

I definitely would not give exclusivity. Yes I do remember the chat, but have no record of agreeing to anything. (While I typed this I looked back to the skype chat window to see the message from time index 8/29/2006 6:20:49 PM appeare.) Ok I see what's going on now. You sent me a message on skype but I was not on line for it. As I got onto skype just now it sent it to me. Argo there was no confirmation from myself.

Quote :[8/29/2006 5:22:17 PM] Owen Atkin says: Come Listen to ZWR Radio
Go to http://www.tuning-base.nl
We will be online until 11pm GMT
[8/29/2006 5:22:29 PM] Mark Tomlin says: Oh joy!
[8/29/2006 5:22:48 PM] Owen Atkin says: actually we are planning on doing race reports and the like
[8/29/2006 5:22:59 PM] Mark Tomlin says: Oh Joy!
[8/29/2006 5:23:18 PM] Owen Atkin says: and the rest of the time its just music fun for listening to, but yeah SimFIA might get some exposure ala radio
[8/29/2006 5:24:59 PM] Owen Atkin says: by the way, how long before the DTM race?
[8/29/2006 5:25:13 PM] Mark Tomlin says: About 3:30 minutes
[8/29/2006 5:25:33 PM] Owen Atkin says: hmm not soon enough, i was gonna ask if we could do a test broadcast of a live race
[8/29/2006 6:20:49 PM] Owen Atkin says: at this moment I'd like to ask for the exclusive coverage of SimFIA events
[9/01/2006 10:00:12 PM] Mark Tomlin says: No

Clear that up?
Mark Tomlin: 22:06:22Got it?
Owen Atkin: 22:06:43i was waiting for a response
Mark Tomlin: 22:06:50[8/29/2006 6:20:49 PM] Owen Atkin says: at this moment I'd like to ask for the exclusive coverage of SimFIA events
[9/01/2006 10:00:12 PM] Mark Tomlin says: No

Mark Tomlin: 22:06:52NO
Owen Atkin: 22:07:15onyl needed to say it once, I'm ambitious not stupid
Mark Tomlin: 22:07:35I've said it three time's and you did not get it the first or the second.
Owen Atkin: 22:08:03actually i got it all 3 times in this very chat just now
Owen Atkin: 22:08:10you need only have replied once
Mark Tomlin: 22:08:33[10:06:15 PM] Owen Atkin says: i was waiting for a response

Then what was the point of that line?
Owen Atkin: 22:08:59I suggest you check your skype then my friend, because I asked directly nto only for coverage but the exclusive on the live coverage
Mark Tomlin: 22:09:09What is nto?
Owen Atkin: 22:09:15that line was an indication of where i asked, and i was awaiting a rerply
Owen Atkin: 22:09:33listen mark, dont **** with me tonight
Owen Atkin: 22:09:50you replied, thank you for your reply
Mark Tomlin: 22:10:03Right, you can give do covrage, just you can't do it exclusivly.
Owen Atkin: 22:10:04now do you have anything else to add?
Owen Atkin: 22:10:11thank you
Mark Tomlin: 22:10:13Night
Owen Atkin: 22:10:17night

I might add, that he's not neccisarily the most perceptive person in the world. I asked once, and he felt the need to reply 3 times, quite acting like an ass. The first "No" settled the issue of exclusivity. The issue I had been (heres that word) WAITING on.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
No, youre an idiot because you assume that I made an assumption in the first place. Instead of doing what any civilised person does and wait for a response.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
OK, I have very few hot buttons. You just pushed the assumption button. This is the one where you claim to be clairvoyant, to know my thoughts and what I was thinking. You know, the one that pisses me off because it is generally used to lump me in with the dishonest and stupid of this world. I'm not sure if you realize it, but its incredibly rude to assume upon someone, much the same as if i were to publicly speculate on the size of your endowment. That said, I will not.

I told him to check Skype so he would receive the offline messages at the end, which were sent before I realized he logged out. The messages i was waiting for a response to.

I swear this guy is living proof that even an idiot can operate a copy of LFS. Good job on the user-friendly end Scawen.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
I wish i had more to say, was never much of a mourner. It's always sad to lose someone, even if they were someone you never really knew.

Kinda reminds me of highschool. In one of my classes something similar happened. It was a CAD class with the high drafting tables, large classroom, and PC's. If you were'nt the social type it was easy to be there and know almost nobody around you. A couple months into the school year news started spreading about a student dying in a car accident. I later came to find out he was in my class, much to my suprise. I hadn't even noticed that he was gone because I never knew he was there. Still a saddening loss to lose a brother like that. For the life of me I can only remember his first name. So I'll take this moment to say RIP, both Trey and Dave.

If anyone has a jpg of Dave's spray logo from CS, maybe could i get it. I'd kinda like to put it on the team skin for a while, memorial y'know.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Quote from Jakg :how about your facts, seeing as you say you have exclusivity when you never bother to check!

do you ever read time stamps? The conversation quoted took place on skype, and Dygear didnt log in for another 2 days after I asked.

I asked 2 days before he responded. And I made no announcement here (or anywhere that i can think of) of having the exclusivity agreement. What you've done is called "making an assumption".

If you're going to try to flame, do it properly.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Ok, id just like to point out that there are 5 GTR class cars.

FZR FXR and XRR being the larger mroe common cars, and XFR and UFR being the less common smaller cars.

excluding the FZR because of the balance issue, we end up with 2 classes, GTR and C-GTR (compact). I havent heard anyone crying foul about UFR or XFR being unbalanced, so thats the C-GTR's balanced. and there seems to be a general sentiment that the FXR and XRR are balanced with eachother.

Hoellsen, 2 classes, balanced. Doesn't need to be a thing of the future, it could happen now.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
actualy we did, but not exclusivity. Get your facts straight
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
SimFIA's a different time. Besides, we WANT the competition of having you around. It pushes both parties to excell.

And if you have server issues at any time let us know. We may not be able to fit you into a LIVE time slot but we can air your coverage without a problem, even leave all your credits in place.
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KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Guess ZWR Radio will have to step in and cover it. Still a couple days, so maybe we can let you guys broadcast via our server?
KeiichiRX7
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1) I know Fischfix personally, he's a part of the same community as I am
2) When did anyone have a go at ajp?
KeiichiRX7
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Um, Fischfix, love you to death man, but... You're not Dygear.

If you'd like to see Coverage of the 360 series on our station thought just say so
KeiichiRX7
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its sad, i saw that pouting smiley in Becky's post and almost started bawling out of sympathy
KeiichiRX7
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www.tuning-base.nl take a gander in the right hand side bar

this was posted in the other thread
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Becky, just read your website.

If you catch ZWR's server up with the oval, feel free to join us. We actually encourage dogfights
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
I suggest you check your skype then my friend, because I asked directly nto only for coverage but the exclusive on the live coverage.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Sadly less than 6 hours into our maiden round the clock broadcast, the server went down for maintainance. The provider is gettnig the bollocking of thier life.

And yeah, we will be doing interviews, music and coverage. Not just for LFS either. As my team branches out and discovers the more prominent series in other sims we will begin covering those as well
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
i fail to see the controversy, there are many radiostation playing teh same content all over the world

We plan on doing event coverage and reports as well as music thats just fun to drive with. Think of us as Sim Racing contered news radio, With a kicker.
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
Plans on an announcement of the first round course?
KeiichiRX7
S2 licensed
+1
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