Guys, would you behave. This thread (and LFSForum in general) isn't your personal playground, but a thread to report and fix issues in the finnish translation.

If you want to shoot breeze and test the limits of the mods and all the sane people here, do it in the offtopic.

Quote from Not Sure :

Works fine here (Win XP SP3)

Finnish text needs some final touches.

Please elaborate.

Quote from Starbert :

I don't know how big the userbase of LFS is, but they all got it right and working. No need for a setup-package.

I don't know but, Vic and one lovely brunette whose name escapes me could answer how much problems users have installing LFS, I'd guess only 10% or so of those having problems even manage to find LFSForum.

Quote from Starbert :

Question: does the installer now also put entries in the registry of windows? If not then you could still easily copy your install.

It will if you keep the settings default. Also, entries in the registry is one thing, program function is another. As LFS was made without any thought for registry (Yay!) all this newfanglesetups is only extra for those who don't know better. Yes, there's also "cruft" for your registry but you disable those settings if you care don't you?

This new installer won't affect anyway the old behavior (99% sure, haven't noticed any changes in LFS.exe behaviour) so you can copy LFS dir all you want if you can keep track of the shortcuts and locations etc.

Quote from J.B. :

I'm glad I'm not the only one who still hasn't understood the concept of program files, registry, users, app data etc.

What is it for and how is supposed to be used (serious question)?

My opinion:
Program Files: Program files, duh
Registry: where a program resides, where you can find the settings file for X
Users: Personal files (recipes etc), personal programdata (not what the user needs, but the programs user uses)
appdata: local personal tmp files


Reality:
mess



Things were much easier in the DOS age... Today you need 9 kinds of IT degrees to copy a program and its data from one PC to another PC, if it's even possible.

Quote from Starbert :

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You can reproduce the old behaviour if you have 7zip/WinRAR etc and right click on the setup exe and click extract to whatever directory name it suggests. ed. whoops, it's not so easy, it also needs some manual fiddling...

Also it's not totally unnecessary, there's lots of ppl who don't know what a zip is or what to do when a dialog prompts to replace an existing older version of the same file. Or how they can start LFS if they manage to extract it.

Last edited by Krane, Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:47.

Quote from Shadowww :

Well 90% of LFS is userdata (I bet nobody here has all stock dds files etc).

The 9% are vob's and unmodificable files.

The 1% is LFS.exe.

What usually is considered userdata is only the .ply file (LFS handles the multiuser there), .sets, .cols/personal helmet/car skins (not skins_x), and the .con etc.

If one has custom DDS files and other customizations, those don't count as userdata in the traditional sense.

You also need to take into account that some of the appdata directories will be roamed to servers and each PCs the user logs on to in corporate environments, so choose the directory carefully.

Last edited by Krane, Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:03.

Win7 x64

dbl click installer exe (using an administrator account)
LFS install default settings (desktop&menu icons + associations)
Installed to d:\games\live for speed
(Clicked computer->d:\ it chose d:\live for speed, changed the string to d:\games\live for speed)

Notes, installer did not install LFS icon to the games section in Win7. Nor can it be seen in control panel-uninstall program.


First start, no probs, setup wheel drove abit, saved a replay.
Exit (with exit buttons etc)
Browse to d:\games\live for speed\data\spr dbl click the replay file-> windows can't open file. To open this file, Windows needs to know blabla
Regedit says HKCR\.spr is not set
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.spr is set, but it's empty, probably it's set because I just clicked a .spr file.

Looking at the Process Monitor log which I had running at the time of the install, I see that each file association related registry operation and

uninstall info is result:ACCESS DENIED (see attachment)
I guess if one keeps the set file association check-boxes checked, you need to elevate the installer privileges in the installer script.

Redo;
manually empty LFS dir.

Pretty much the same as above, but I start the installer with right click run as administrator

No LFS in W7 games, but it's in control panel-uninstall

dbl click spr-> lfs starts, music starts playing as in the 1st start demo replay even though I disabled all music (sorry vic, put feel the silence in

there and I'll keep it on) WTH? mouseclickspabecarmouseclicspabecar where's the replay? Close LFS, again dbl click spr, LFS starts, music starts blaring

and I wait.... instead of the demo spr, my spr starts, d'oh.

disabled load track at startup, dbl clicking spr starts a proper replay playback

I placed my priceless heirlooms to d:\games\live for speed and uninstalled LFS with control panel-uninstall.. it deleted my heirlooms because I had

delete Live for speed directory check-box checked... my fault


I moved d:\games\Live for speed to d:\Live for speed, started d:\live for speed\lfs.exe played abit, quit. Browsed to d:\live for speed\data\spr dbl

click spr, choose the program you want to use blablabla LFS not in the list.
If spr/set/lyt association is set, and upon starting lfs it's not in the same place it used to be, it should update those associations in the registry

to current location. How about: TODO (reallylow) ?


Tried the hose C:\ uninstall bug, it won't install to any root drive



Sorry about the unreadability, those are notes on the run, not a well thought out report, which I'm not in a state to do ATM...

Last edited by Krane, Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:30.

They don't flex much, they're sort of "quenched"* plastic, see previous page what will happen if you try to bend them too much.

*ie, hard, not bendy, breaks if bent enough.

Last edited by Krane, Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:24.

I measured mine (the faulty one) and I'd say you could fit it to a less than 52mm width table, but I don't have a calliper handy, just a random swagruler. Note that not all wheels will fit to the same table, one can and another won't, depends on manufacturing tolerances.

There's another down there, but it's quite long... so I didn't attach it

Quote from MijnWraak :

Try to get an RMA if you can.

"If you can..." It isn't going very well, looks they are giving me the runaround. And here was me reading people's posts and getting the impression that they are painless to deal with regarding RMAs.

ed. too fast jump to conclusions, they've told a new wheel is on its way

Last edited by Krane, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:23.

Quote from mookie427 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBb4cjjj1gI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-SZXIVvuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYW6C44zo24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9kkfxgB5SA :bunny3:

Well I finally bit the bullet, and got the G25.

But it looks like I have defective wheel... after few minutes of playing the wheel becomes off-centered and a soft-stop appears at the right lock about 15 degrees before the hard-stop. Pull the usb-plug and re-attach, and it's fixed...

This happens on two computers, one XP x32 and one W7 x64. WTH, the wheel's firmware is hosed or what could be causing this? The clrcalib from wingmanteam's site doesn't help, it just says no calibration data.. if I don't tweak the problem away with dxtweak.

Quote from JJ72 :

yeah, for real.

http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=113797

1880 Hong Kong dollars = 164.334747 € Is that w/o or with VAT?


http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/340429 cheapest you can find it in Finland, ~350€


JJ, how that 1880HK$ relates to a say below-middle-class worker's monthly nett salary?

Last edited by Krane, Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:08.

Sadventures

Quote from PioneerLv :

Done that, but look at the result, look at that ping! :eye-poppi

Check your firewall/network, you apparently have a problem with UDP traffic (no reply 82 servers)

Quote from Gegry1992 :

lol he cant play
he pressing middle pedal with left foot and right pedal with right foot... ^^
or dirt dont have clutch and H-Shifter support?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEqOGejlrw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obQcNoOSD5s

Quote from CLRS530 :

...

Is Z18 the current official patch or the latest test patch?

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Quote from BOSCHO :

i think is a bug
one friend give me a hotlap replay (he uses z18) but it gives me an error on z20
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5296/15471352.png

You shouldn't report any problems with old test patches as they're water under the bridge and nobody who cares wants to know nothing of any problems one has with them. It only matters if the problem exists in current official patch* or latest test patch (Z20). IMNSHO anyway.

* but those reports don't belong into the test patch threads

Last edited by Krane, Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:38.

Re: Window size saving

Win XP SP3 x32
Geforce 7900GS driver 191.07 (single 1680x1050 monitor, single display performance mode enabled, also all quality options on high performance)

Win7 x64
Geforce 8500GT driver 190.38 and 191.07 (single 1680x1050 monitor, single display performance mode enabled, also all quality options on high performance)

Exit button, little X or alt+F4, no problems.

Kill process from taskman, window size not saved. Duh.


Ed. bah it was pebkac-bug, not LFS :P

Last edited by Krane, Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:28.