The graphic is just on unbelievable level. From these videos it looks like it will be pretty nice also on physics level. And on first place there are many devs working on it pretty much so maybe it will come to high level fast.

Okay but the second guy was arguing about the overtaking of a tight curved straight where I chose the inside and wasnt changing it. He was just driving his line and got me there on grass. It wasnt really needed to take it at the limit. Who fault would be that? Is it like he should have make me a space if he knew that I am going to overtake him?

It doesnt give so much sense because that would mean that they can race like they want and only we should brake and fight for positions between them. The same I dont think is fair to me to pass them everywhere. IMO there should be some compromise if it really isnt necessary for him to take it wide. I was just behind him and he could make me space instead of taking the wide line.

@derohk I had some race accidents and fails. Sorry for that.

@TehPawns3D. Wtf you just said??? Only you 2 guys were scrapped not damaged and was arguing for nothing all the time making my racing sux. You are the man who took the revenge on me and got warned by admins.

Meanwhile I have found this: http://www.cargame.nl/forum/post39722.html They arent talking the same as you Notanillusion.

Hello guys,

I was racing today at cargame.nl with fzr And had two arguments with a guys on slower class.

1. At AS3 I was like 4. and at T1 there was a slower class racer in front. I got to him just before apex and I decided to take him from outside. He was driving it on the limit and wide so when I was at his rear wheel I slightly pushed him and he then got it to sand at middle of corner. IMO 50% is his failure as the push was slight. After race he was arguing with me that I crashed him and so on...

2. At special layout I was leading and coming out from corner and I was getting to 2 cars at the little curved straight. As at the time I was deciding there was space for 2 cars I chose to take inside line. The guy was racing it on the limit and got inside of that slight curved straight. So I overtook him on a grass within scrapping his side of car but nothing else happened. After race he was arguing that he can race his line and I am the one who is responsible.

In my opinion blue flag overtaking is work of the two. There was enough space for it and it wasnt really necessary to block my way as the speed difference was like 80km/h and really I cant disappear or change my decision few meters behind them. Why I should lose seconds at the little curved straight for that someone wanted to gain 0.01 and got it to the limit with a blue flag on his head.

What you guys think. Should we brake and let them drive at the limit and lose positions behind them? Is blue flag here just to let them know that there is faster car and they can race the line they want? Or blue flag means for them to be predictable and let us pass without blocking or so on?

Thank you for opinions.

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IMO theres no way to help you. It comes out of experience. You just need to look alot of different replays, download setups that you think suit you. It will come with time.

Really nice. I would like to see some of those races. Hope you ll get it to the point you want. It can be really challanging especially if TC is banned like in real f1.

I think you need to be an expert bike driver to say you dont need ABS. You can know the braking limits but if you get to abnormal situation with a oil/sand on ground you can press front brake a little more than its traction limit and you are a death man. Instead in a car you will just feel the locked tyre / understeer. I also thought how easy it is as I know the limits but little sand in turn and I was lying on the ground.

Anyway. Im pretty sure that in some today cars is ABS shortening the braking lenght. Some can 15 times a second mechanically open valves. Braking the every single wheel with different torque at the traction limit.

I have just tested the most common type of crashes and its great Scawen! But still in some occasion barrier bounce you. My first experience with thin part of barrier send me to fly in speed of maybe 60kmh. And still there was an interaction with concrete barrier in kyoto that bounced me. Keep it going

Thanks for this update.

It looks like this is the end of funny flying times

Yeah I think thats not good if the game would go to many parts like S3 or S4... Maybe S2 and S1 are enough and just everyone except demo would pay something to download a new patch?

If im racing on some event I listen to music. It helps me to be calm. But on the other hand im losing concentration. Also depends on what type of music Im listening but mostly its funky or some alternative.

Nice to see that. But I hope it wont take so much as s2 is getting death. Only like 5 racing servers are really active. I want to ask if you are working some more on aerodynamics and crash model? In my opinion the lfs way of laggs and crash model is the worst part of lfs racing.
Im a laggy racer and had many problems of wheel by wheel racing or car behind a car where 1 racer fly away and the 2 havent even touched him.

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Im concerned against it everywhere. I think everyone have the same conditions. I want to be fast and to go forward I dont want to go backward. And the best is to go forward with others and have some great racing.

It will just annoy. Maybe some worse players would be happy but if they come with better skills on day they wont participate as the server would add them handicaps and the race result would be know before even start. And the result would be maybe the same like before so the challange is nowhere.

I think that community will decrease after this. Thats Communism what I dont like.

Last edited by L@gger, Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:47.

Me too. Those racers who would like this idea are still too slow to win with 30kg hced opponents. But I dont think so that it will take there people I think it will just an opposite effect as it wont be about skill anymore. And a very active racers in this event will be just frustrated. I would probably quit if it go this way as I want to have some serious racing against my skill category. Anyway whats with fast people from 2 months ago events?

In my opinion and others share the same its useless. Last race many racers said that they dont care if mugen win in a row but they want a fair fight with him. Race isnt about changing grid its about skills. We can change grid by getting more experience. This is something like computer win lottery.

BTW: I felt worse when I won last saturday than when I had a great race the saturday before and didnt even completed.

Funny is that mugen still could get in 2 or 3 position but server gave him another 15kg hc to kill him next race. Anyway i was slow, i crashed and still won by 18 seconds. Mugen best time was 1:13.4 I mean and mine 1:12.8 he was like 0.6-0.8 seconds slower!

I think static and dynamic restrictions arent really needed. The only case where I can imagine use of restriction is a race with more car types. Example XRG/XFG. If you really feel that XRG is faster add some intake restriction to it maybe 5%. Dynamic restriction is really bad as you always need to set it and as some racers are disadvantaged.

I dont think so that weight transfer is positive if CG is below surface. Centrifugal force should be aplied at that point so there should be a moment transfering more force on inside wheels if im right.

You are right. So if I want negative weight transfer CG should be below surface. That makes sense. I thought the momentum is from the wheel axis but now got that. Thanks
From extreme example: if you have wheels with high diameter with low wheelbase and CG somewhere in mid of wheel radius down it should be really positive weight transfer. Something you cant earn so easily - the way of thinking. Thanks

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The reason why im asking is because im RC racer and onroad cars have CG somewhere near wheel axis. I think that weight transfer have to do something with roll center and center of gravity. In my opinion there still should be weight transfer if you get CG somewhere under wheel axis but what happens if you get CG alot down (maybe practicaly not possible)?

Sure. But im speaking about CG. Im sure that it cant be below surface but anyway in total extreme way of imagination.

But in totaly extreme situation that cant happen when weight center is long below car, maybe in asphalt? Im trying to look on things from two extremes.

Hello .If im right weight transfer is changing by change of weight center up/down. But what happens if you get weight center below wheel axis. This isnt probably posible with most cars, but will be the effect of weight transfer negative? I mean when you are in corner outside wheels are pulled with less force and inside with bigger force?

Thanks for your answers

So you move your videos to educational category and say audio name sin titles?