you might be right and that be the explanation but i just tried this:

put a finger up and far and other low and close, pay attention to the far finger and still see close finger double though blurred

this doesnt happen with the stereogram, in fact in my experience a stereogram starts working when you stop seeing double any of its parts

i know the classical explanation of depth perception, your eyes converge farther or closer being able to tell distance by the eyes position but i disagree i think we are missing being able to overimpose far and close objects at the same time, contrary as we do in the stereogram in which we overimpose object 120 and 140 pixels apart at the same time

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yes i can and just like with the fingers any row you dont focus on is percieved twice with 2 letters floating close together
i dont think youve fully understood how depth perception works

have you tried this one?:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi ... /Stereogram_Tut_Width.png

if you do it correctly you dont see double floating images in the row which is not focused on, try it plz and youll see what i mean

my main point is that this stereograms prove that brain can overimpose images that are 120 pixels apart and 140 pixels, AT THE SAME TIME, contrary to the fingers real life example in which your brain aint able to overimpose both different distances fingers at the same time

ive been playing attention to flocks of seagulls at maybe 100 m this while and the only way im able to tell which is closer is size, certainly i dont percieve depth as in the provided stereogram

also tried picking up an object with one eye closed and theres no difference

take a look at this ascii stereogram:

http://www.ixtlan.ru/images/subj_7.gif

simulating a wider eye distance is much more difficult to percieve depth, instead if you look to close by letters far away letters will look double and viceversa just as we normally do in reality

can anybody percive depth in the ascii stereogram? i cant, just been able once but if i increase dificulty(eye distance) continuously in the future my brain will percieve depth instead of seeing double far away objects when looking close and viceversa


ive been thinking all day and cant find the answer maybe somone can help:

why objects 140 pixels apart look farther than the ones at 120 pixels?

Last edited by lerts, Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:49.

i enjoy following a car more than being 1st, if it was a beatiful girl in a bike would be great

im thinking of a experiment with two leds at different distances in a dark room but have to figure out how to do it alone

do you imagine looking at the stars naked eye and be able to tell which are farther?

becky i go to a psichiatrist have my medication and im quiting with all substances like alcohol but before i was interested on getting energy from gravity which lead to my explanation on gravity from ellipses but now im interested in a method of achieving 100% of brain usage or enlightenment i dont think this is crazy just out of the box

whats wrong with starting making exercises with stereograms and slowly increase depth, thats exercise with the brain that instead of harm can only bring benefits

i post this in order to improve my idea, i find it extreamly interesting, i cant be the only one, imagine i was in the way to invent a method of easily achieving enlightenment share it with the best of my intention and it got locked and i banned

ive invented another eye exercise which i posted here as well that got me 3 times for 1 second to see with the periferal view as well as with the central one and as well as to have real 3d perception, i can tell you sight can get to be quite different to what we usually experience, focus at all distances, real depth perception and peripheral view as clear as central

Last edited by lerts, Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:52.

take a look at this stereogram: (close your eyes to the screen to see it double and get far away slowly keeping overlaping byside images)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi ... /Stereogram_Tut_Width.png

notice you know perfectly which is farther which in real life doesnt happen, if you see 2 lights in the see at night you are unable to tell which is closer, i recall even have confused a close insect with a far bird, even simpsons parodied this

now put one finger close to your eyes and other far, when you pay attention to the close finger the far one appears double and viceversa, and this happens even with one finger at 50 cm and other at 52 cm

this doesnt happen with stereograms, notice that when you achieve deapth perception in the stereogram is exactly when you dont see anything double

but think of the amazing thing your brain is doing, its overlaping an image that is 2 cm apart and 3 cm apart at the same time telling from this depth

but why we achieve deapth perception in the stereogram and not alike in real life?

the reason is that the stereogram simulates a very small eye distance, maybe 1 cm while in real life we have 5 cm, so with the stereogram our brain has to do a small efort to overlap different distances images because this distance differences are very small while in real life distances are not manageables by our brain

i think we lost our ability for apreciating deapth due to to much reading that taught our sight to converge too close instead of going paralel, in other words instaed of the images being overlap by our brain are overlapped by converging our eyes with which the brain is used to do no effeort at all

well long ago i found a way to recover deapth perception would be using periscopic eyes that simulated our eyes being 1 cm apart and increase constantly distance till we relearn to look with the eyes paralel and let the brain overlap images apreciating depth

but just yesterday i thought of a beteer way, in the shown stereogram apparent far objects are farther side by side than objects that are apparently closer, but the distance difference is very small because it simulates eyes 1 cm apart, so the trick is increase apart distance difference constantly till the stereogram simulates eyes 5 cm apart

that would be the begining of starting to use 100% of brain

your thoughts?

Last edited by lerts, Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47.

i have it set in pro, i think the problem with ai is that is unable to take shortways

i think you are confusing gravity cancellation with inertia cancellation, if you cancelled inertia you would be right

i think if someone flew it would be with antigravity, with that you could go one million mph and reversed sense in a second felling always 0 g(what you feel at free fall)

haha sometimes im too nice but look whos talking, a game that came from niceness has to lead to nice behaviour, i even let her drive once but she prefers flash games, i was lucky i didnt have a pc as kid i think running chasing tenths of children was so fun, always racing

my little niece has just visited so i wont be able to play so long today, have to let her the pc

i have a logitech formula force but at the moment im trying mouse plus pedals, has advantages and disadvantages

anyway ill race at ctra though im a newbee, ill see you there when my niece lets me the pc

the problem i see is that now everybody is faster than me, but cant practice with ai since im faster than it

i thought i could try to learn tracks cruising but hell its full of obstacles so no way to know braking points

if it was 100 squared km of roads it would be supercool but just a circuit i dont know, though seems funny run away from police

seems i need virtual money but how do i get it?

i find mouse only way to control locked differential, i never could with my logitech formula force

i suppose mouse its better than a cheap wheel, and a good wheel is better than mouse

seems to me that 2 cars can go really fast together in the oval they ovaratke each other with slipstream constantly going faster than alone

so if you lose a pack you are in trouble, is this correct

my best lap is 37.15 you think i could improve it going with the pack?

then what circuit do you recommend me to start with? something easy

problem solved, now i find much more serers, theres even a permanent oval

wow track record on oval is way faster than me

whats the trick to be fast on the oval? its not what i expected but so fun

thanks again mate you can count that licence will be wisely used for loads of fun and if you like my topics you can be sure ill be around

seems 80% of servers are this circuit, is this correct or theres something wrong with mysettings?

i want to race fast in the oval

just like my dream, myself a light turning around central black hole

hehe now im s2 thanks to the very end, isnt it nice he likes somebody so he gets a voucher for him

haha im so happy now i would post right now how we humans lost depth perception but have to wait till tomorrow or that would be spamming

better get to playing

thanks so much the very end

oh man are you gonna say that sex with sheeps is more interesting than flying for real, you are crazier than me

you are insulting me, im just sharing odd experiences which i can only do on forums due to anonimity

why me who plays the game and post ot get punish and others calling me retard and fu+k out gets away with it

whats ot for?

im on vacation i have nobody to talk, im human, isnt this to socialice betwwen players, thats what i try

so i remember having flown as a kid and should keep it to myself? that would harm me

i think you should judge me by my intentions, its true i was looking to appear important, but i get punished for this while others intentions is to harm me just cause im different and get away with it

Last edited by lerts, Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:51.

34 year old 8 mentally

well this might be the third time i ever told this, i told to my two sister and to my amazement one had experienced the same, so why not somebody else did around the globe

hey this i never told a friend but anonimity of forums let me share this