the lfslapper thing that gives points for drifting isnt a good way to judge a drift, you get higher scores by taking a worse line and going on the grass

+1 for having a option to mark a server as drift, like how they have done with cruise servers

Quote from MAD3.0LT :

i find the drift points system is so wrong atm it just encoruges people to drift on the grass or do fishys up the straights not really drifting IMO the points system need to not be axis X Speed X Lock it needs to be

Speed X Axis X Lock X line ie if u go off the racing line then its not really drifting its just uncontroled sliding and when i say line i mean kerb apex curb exit kerb

yea it rewards bad drifting, you get better scores if you do go on the grass, cut corners to stay in 1 drift or go wide so you drift longer

Quote from amp88 :

Wants to bring in unrealistic maximum steering angles to help him drift - Check.

its no unrealistic for cars to have more lock then they do now

there are afew tracks/corners where the FZ5 will drift better just because it has more power to spin the wheels, if the Xrt had the same power good chance you wouldnt see many ppl using the FZ5 because it doesnt handle as good as the Xrt

Quote from TheSleeper :

- Hi all, I used to play the demo online where you could drive the XFG Turbo(?) but after installing the latest demo that car is no longer available to drive in the demo. Just wondering if its possible to still play the old demos online?

- I'm thinking about finally buying S2 but someone said I should wait for S3, does anyone know whether S3 will be out soon?

- I'm in Australia and was just wondering how active the Aussies are online? are there many Aussie servers? I'd hate to buy the full game and not have any low ping servers to play on.

cheers

just buy S2 now, you'll be buying it anyway later when S3 is out

there are alot of aussies around so dont worry about there not being low ping servers or ppl not being online

Quote from TAYLOR-MANIA :

Yeah Joseph is right, they're enough Fern Bay configs already... but i've always wanted to drive this particular part -



Just look at it! All it needs is some banking/camber on the bend at the top & it'd be the greatest piece of tarmac we have in LFS. I mean it's there all ready to use, open it up already!



But on the suggestion at hand, i wouldn't mind it at all
Another 2/3 variations wouldn't hurt nobody. The elevation change in split #3 coupled with the awesome U-Bend leading to split #1 would surely make it one of my favourite tracks.

+1 to this and the OP's idea

Quote from Dennis93 :

/facepalm,

Can't drifters go to lfs-torque if they have such a problem with ''grippers''
instead of starting discussions everytime they come here?

Kthx

alot of ppl dont know about lfs-torque or atm not many ppl post about drifting there

we need a drifting sub-forum, that way ppl that want to talk about drifting have a forum and the ppl that dont like it wont have to see it

Quote from N1PPER :

Wow, attacked within minutes... Kinda expected it though.

Great atmosphere here.

Say a word wrong and forever be condemned to being seen as an idiot I guess.

I suppose I should have mentioned a couple of crucial (yet so obvious) factors. Countersteer is much more forgiving on an understeery setup, as the front wheels will not grip instantly, giving the driver some time to realise what is happening underneath him. It's a good place to start drifting also, as it is more forgiving and teaches the driver that you need to really throw it hard to initiate a drift.

Have you tried drifting a setup that is set to max oversteer?

i dont see where he attacked you or called you a idiot on his last post, also the "snap" is from the rear wheels griping up really fast and sending you the way your front wheels are facing wich is really hard to recover from but with a good setup this shouldnt happen anyway

Quote from feat :

.. or rename thread as ''Hey look, i ctrl+v picturez!11''
This thread is just waste of time and post earning.

better then ppl starting threads asking for cars when they can just post it in here

yea i really dont know what to say that hasnt been said by other ppl or by me (in other threads not just this one)

i really dont know why i still post on here when pretty much everybody that isnt a drifter hates them and thinks they shouldnt be allowed to drift or crap like that

Quote from george_tsiros :

bwahahahaha

You still haven't explained how or why "we have no idea". You only keep repeating it and variations of it.

ok, so you say that i have no idea about drifting. anyone can make that claim about anyone and anything. can you substantiate it?

go look at some of the other posts of mine in this thread and some other posts from some of the drifters on here

tho i'm pretty sure you think you know alot about drifting and wont listen to half the posts in here that say your wrong

Quote from sgt.flippy :

Biggest problem with those cars in those pics and the people driving them.. They DON'T look cool at all
More like complete moron to be honest.

not a fan of drifting i bet?

Quote from george_tsiros :

Just to show you that what you just said does not mean you know what you are talking about, you still can't speel propar englisch

yea i do know about drifting because ive been a fan of drifting for around 8 years and have been drifting in real life and LFS for awhile now

my bad spelling has nothing to do with ppl like you having no idea about drifting, nice try tho

Quote from LsTeg :

i felt like bringing this back up, you people have it all mixed up...

guys drifting in real life is about looking cool

its not serious

its about slammed cars ,nice paint , big steering angle, no suspension travel left

but i look cool? thats all that matters just a little heads up control is a thing of the past looking hot is what its about.

thats 1 more person to the list of ppl in this thread who has no idea what there talking about

Last edited by masternick, Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:55.

Quote from jaykay3000 :

Drifting

It's more about making smoke and holding the drift for as long as possible while making a smooth, long drift through the corner(s), speed through the corner isnt essential as long as you have enough speed to maintain the drift

not really, Drifting is about line,speed,angle and in a battle its about how close you can get to the person in front or how far away u can get while while still having a good line,speed,angle

in rl smoke just means the car has some power, in LFS it just means your rears tyre's are stuffed

Quote from DRiFT-BOY :

i say yes! this is a racing simulator and drifting is a type of racing, that has taken over!! :P so i say yeh put it for demo racers :P and bring back the xrt for demo people aswell coz we wanna drift and u gay admins leave us with crappy cars so we cant drift, so i gotta play version x all the time

drifting isnt a type of racing, its a type of motorsport and stop being cheap and buy S2:P

Quote from george_tsiros :

excuse me? how does that contribute to the discussion?

just saying that you have no idea about drifting, its the same with alot of the ppl that post in these kinda threads

Quote from george_tsiros :

i think 'drifting' is a one-word way to say 'using rally techniques on tarmac'

which is just out-of-place

until there is an objective way to judge a 'drift', say... an integral of a function with parameters 'drift angle' multiplied by the speed of the car's COM... it won't be a sport. it's nice, fun, worthless, whatever, but it is not a sport.

even THEN though it would be a tough call.

i could make apple peeling competitive and also with an objective measure (first to finish peeling wins. simple.) but that doesn't make it a sport.

see my last post

Quote from ken9 :

Drifting is like taking a 3 legged dog to the local dog track. But he slides around so its cool... but won't win you any money.

But Tokyo Drift was the best movie ever....

Ok so I lied, Drifting is probably the lamest thing about racing

another person that has no idea, plz never post again

another fail thread full of ppl that think if they dont like drifting no one else should be able to do it

why do ppl drift? for fun, why do ppl race? for fun, both groups are just trying to have fun but some from the racing group seem to want to ruin it for the drifting group

dont like drifting? u dont have to go onto drift servers or post in drifting related threads

Quote from gezmoor :

Ok lets put this semantic argument to bed:

nah it can never be put to bed, there will allways be someone that watchs FnF: Tokyo Drift and think Drifting is racing

Quote from Homeless_Drunk :

Then the devs should remove autocross since it isn't really racing either...

did i say they should remove anything? no i said that drifting isnt racing

Quote from Homeless_Drunk :

heh, it does get old...

I really don't see where the "this is a racing simulator" argument is valid when it comes to drifting...drifting is a form of racing, is it not? Just like drag racing is a form of racing...or tractor pulls...and so on...

no its not, its a form of motorsport, go read the 100 other threads about this

its different thats for sure, havent drifted much since the patch so dont know if its better or not

Ian.H why are u still here if u seem to hate this game so much?

wtb his posts deleted from the thread so ppl can talk about the patch

Quote from Forbin :

@Alex_Tiger:
As I said in an earlier post in this thread, cheap cars are cheap because they're cheap. If you want a fast car, you don't buy a cheap car. All "tuners" do is slap go-fast parts onto a shitty car. There's not really much engineering behind what they do, since most of it is trial and error. If they aren't using T&E, they're following what someone else did before them. Again, no engineering, just wrenching. Also, that money could have easily gone into a much nicer car to begin with.

there are alot of good cheaps cars and alot of ppl dont want to spend all there money on a newer car when they can spend less buying a older car and making it faster, you'll also find tuners that do new cars to